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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Mar 11, 2013 - 02:42pm PT
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Hahaha good one Ron.
Dynamite was used in the worst school massacre in US history. Shortly after that horrific event laws were passed to strictly control access to dynamite.
I have to admit it is damn fun to blow sh#t up with it though.
My point is that on Nuke Subs the guns are securely locked away and have to be "issued"
They must have a reason.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Mar 11, 2013 - 02:54pm PT
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^^^^ Bingo
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Mar 11, 2013 - 02:57pm PT
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Friken Lol. Ron we don't always agree, but when we do I enjoy your wry wit.
Schools in subs would substantially reduce ditching classes.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Mar 11, 2013 - 03:04pm PT
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Dammit Ron I am sending you a bill to clean the mocha and mucus off of my keyboard.
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Mar 11, 2013 - 03:13pm PT
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Guns on a sub can be used for whatever situations that require it, both external and internal.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Mar 11, 2013 - 03:14pm PT
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And NO SHERRIFS, no local LEOs, no local Natl guard and no military types will have a thing to do with gun confiscation in the USA.
Well then, why do gun nuts keep going off about their guns being confiscated?
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Mar 11, 2013 - 03:22pm PT
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I thought you were talking about CONFISCATION, not bans, because that is the word you used.
What CONFISCATIONS are you talking about Ron? Be specific.
What BANS are you talking about?
Because the LEO's I know would be happy to limit the firepower the average crazy has access to at Walmart.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Mar 11, 2013 - 03:25pm PT
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Those aren't CONFISCATIONS.
And NO SHERRIFS, no local LEOs, no local Natl guard and no military types will have a thing to do with gun confiscation in the USA.
"An overwhelming majority of Coloradans support limiting these high-capacity ammunition magazines and it's our job in the legislature to implement the will of the people," said House assistant Majority Leader Dan Pabon, D-Denver.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Mar 11, 2013 - 03:39pm PT
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SHlT!
Just when I thought it might be good to move back to Colorado!
(Maybe get a raincoat and check out Washington.)
Lets see; guns on a sub?
Snakes on a plane?
Lizards on the Zion shuttle?
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Mar 11, 2013 - 03:40pm PT
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Don't forget sloths in Congress.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Mar 11, 2013 - 03:55pm PT
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You claim there is resistance. The newspapers claim the vast majority of citizens want bans on high cap mags.
I don't see the resistance articulated in any news. At best LEO's are divided over some of the bills, but NOT banning high cap mags.
From the Colorado Springs Gazette a couple days ago:
In response to concerns from law enforcement, the bill’s author made an 18 page amendment to the roughly 20 page bill. She said the County Sheriffs of Colorado and the Colorado Association of Chiefs of Police now support the bill.
Read more: http://www.gazette.com/articles/bill-151976-senate-college.html#ixzz2NGLSVEda
Sorry, my bad. I forgot this is a place for you to spout off your unsupported opinion as if it were fact. Carry on.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Mar 11, 2013 - 04:35pm PT
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Ron, do yourself a favor and take a quick look at the sources and dates on those... try some critical thinking skills while you are at it.
"Maketa made the allegations Saturday morning on the Jeff Crank Radio Show on KVOR. He said he got an email from a member of the County Sheriffs of Colorado describing a verbal conversation that person had with someone connected to Senate democrats."
That is vague bullshit by anyone's standards. Basically you have ONE staunch Republican sheriff referring to a email from an unidentified person within his own organization (CSOC) who also clearly stated...
"I do not believe this would be sacrificing our principals or position on other gun bills."
The bill in question has NOTHING to do with high cap magazines:
Senate Bill 197 creates a mechanism to remove guns from people who are prohibited in federal law from possessing firearms because of certain types of domestic violence convictions or domestic violence protection orders.
Do you support Bill 197? Can you think of ANY SANE REASON an LEO would be opposed to Bill 197?
It ain't even close to extortion or intimidation. The Senate votes on a pay INCREASE for the law enforcement. Not getting a pay raise is NOT extortion, especially during tough economic times. This is nothing more than a political trick from a Republican in a very conservative area. It is petty and pathetic.
The other articles were from over a month ago.
For someone who doesn't know the difference between research and a google search, you sure do pretend to know what you are talking about.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Mar 11, 2013 - 04:39pm PT
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Ron, read what I wrote. Try to understand it. Stop being an idiot.
They opposed Bill 1229, which wasn't even mentioned in the "intimidation" bullshit radio show you posted. They opposed it because it was "unenforceable." I feel for the Sheriffs. I have testified in front of law makers on water/erosion issues and they only hear what they want to hear. They generally have their minds made up before the testimony even begins... "will it get me more votes? will it get me more money?"
Simple as that.
It does NOT mean CSOC is opposed to banning high cap mags or some of the other bills. Which Sheriff testified against HB 1224, the one limiting mag capacity? That's right... take your time...
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Mar 12, 2013 - 12:51am PT
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Jesus... you guys are still at this?
I think when it hits 4000 you all need to kiss or something...
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Mar 12, 2013 - 03:25pm PT
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Hey Ron, which AZ Sheriff testified against HB 1224, the one limiting mag capacity?
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Mar 12, 2013 - 03:44pm PT
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Strange, for a second I thought you might have known what you were talking about.
They want to ban high cap. mags in Colo, and 21 counties have said no to those ban proposals and have recieved intimidation from the Senate levels.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Mar 12, 2013 - 03:53pm PT
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Sorry about that... too much multi-tasking/trip planning.
Which CO Sheriff testified against HB 1224, the one limiting mag capacity?
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Mar 12, 2013 - 04:45pm PT
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Right, refusing to do what all the other kids do makes you a wimp!
The one speaking... his county is set to lose 400+ jobs if that mag manufacturer follows through on their threat to pull out?
Don't matter. They passed.
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