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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Klimmer: Re Pate's comment:
hey klimmer, god spoke to me today.......and he told me he hates you. just like everyone else.
My ex-wife's Baptist parents from the SE explained that all the evidence humans have found that proves the Bible is fiction: is simply God testing us to see if we are true believers in Biblical history.
If we fail the Biblical-history belief-test, then we will burn in hell.
So
Do you think she would punish non-believers with hell, for not believing there is an ark on the moon?
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 3, 2013 - 01:16am PT
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"And who do you think did this? Aliens!" Lol.
My kids bust up when they see him on TV with his hairdo.
I enjoy History Channel's, "Ancient Aliens." Watched nearly all the shows. But they are too quick to accept that the aliens seeded life and they have been manipulating us and our DNA for a long, long time.
Well, obviously I don't buy that. That's what they want us to think. I think its a last days deception, and I think people who don't truly know G-d, but are still seeking to know the truth (that's good to seek to know and want to know!) are being deceived.
The answer to everything is not Aliens, or Aliens must have done it.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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I can't stand documentaries and shows about aliens. WEAK evidence. Big holes in the bucket. I've never seen one that didn't have large illogical connections, odd time association, geologic contradictions, and huge leaps of faith required.
Hey man, I wanna believe, but I need some quality.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 3, 2013 - 01:25am PT
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Fritz,
The Book of Nature and The Book of G-d are in agreement.
The Universe is very old 14.7 to 14.8B years. Our Sun, Sol, is about 5B years old. Earth is about 4.56B years old. The Moon about 4.5B.
The Bible describes a very old creation. G-d himself is called "Ancient of Days." In Hebrew, a day is a period of time. It can be 12 hours, 24 hours, 100s, 1000s, millions, or billions of years, or like the 8th day of creation, eternity, no more time.
All I can say is that they should read Dr. Gerald Schroeder's book, "The Science of God."
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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I don't know Russ' idol from Adam but is he like the poster boy for Hirsute Luddites?
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Jennie
Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
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I'm half amused and half concerned for the future of our high schoolers,
School boards don't usually appraise teachers by their lawful, private preoccupations and pursuits...OR internet postings.
If they did...the dozens of pornography addicts on ST forum wouldn't be acceptable as teachers in state schools.
As long as dear Klimmer teaches prescribed cirriculum well, follows rules of conduct and doesn't abuse or mislead the kids...they really lack performance based reasoning for refusing his contract.
I'm going to be careful with this critical denigration of ST members relative to their professions. A spite driven busy body in someones local school district or workplace could concievably apply pressure that might affect someone's career.
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Port
Trad climber
San Diego
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I doubt Klimmer talks about any of this stuff at school. I imagine he's quite professional in that regard. Not because he thinks its the right thing to do, but because his ass would get fired quicker that Willie Nelson hitting the bong.
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little Z
Trad climber
un cafetal en Naranjo
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Russ, please post picture of yourself with the "Kramer" hairdo
Klimmer (our own K-man)...what's with the G-d stuff? he whose name must not be mentioned?
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paganmonkeyboy
climber
mars...it's near nevada...
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my gods is this thread still going ? that alone is proof that God exists...or that There is No God...I forget which...
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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If they did...the dozens of pornography addicts on ST forum wouldn't be acceptable as teachers in state schools.
is that a faith based judgement, a fact based judgement, or personal bias?...guess it depends on your definition of faith, or fact, or science, or pornography, or addiction,..or bias, or teacher...
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Jennie
Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
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is that a faith based judgement, a fact based judgement, or personal bias?...guess it depends on your definition of faith, or fact, or science, or pornography, or addiction,..or bias, or teacher...
Your question would be better directed to those who administer education code in your own state who have fired at least two teachers with a pornography promoting past.
...or the judge who denied Stacie Halas appeal.
If a California education board could censure Klimmer for posting "Ark on the Moon" material on ST...they surely would have latitude to rebuke teachers who repost pornographic material. (I'm not refering to the Stone Nudes art material...but matter your board of education agrees is sleazy and detrimental to kids)
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dirtbag
climber
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Proving that Russ is the late Kim Jong Il's younger half brother by a white baby daddy.
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
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please stop giving Klimmer a hard time
the fact is that there is a lot more we don't know than what we think we know
i don't have to agree with everything he looks at, or agree with his world views, but his posts are significantly more interesting than those of his critics
he is diligently looking into things that are very uncomfortable to many
the main contribution of his critics so far has been to spur him on
restricting yourself to comfortable and acceptable information and world views is not the right way to extend the boundaries of knowledge and understanding
human history is strewn with world views which were ridiculed for many years before becoming authoritatively accepted, notably Aristotle, Ptolemy, Copernicus, Kepler, Newton, Galileo, Darwin, Tesla, Einstein, Hubble, and oh so many others
and there are still many people, perhaps even a majority, who reject the world views of some or all of those people
take it easy...we all have much to learn
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Jennie
Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
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^^^^
Outstanding post!
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jstan
climber
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human history is strewn with world views which were ridiculed for many years before becoming authoritatively accepted, notably Aristotle, Ptolemy, Copernicus, Kepler, Newton, Galileo, Darwin, Tesla, Einstein, Hubble, and oh so many others
An egregious omission
Alfred Wegener
As regards Tesla the contest with Edison has shifted to some extent as there are now high power transmission lines operating DC.
As regards Klimmer I suspect with his thread title
very OT, but of high interest Klimmer was asking for a razzing. When you consider the state of his data.
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goatboy smellz
climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
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My cöck is a antenna and home base to many alien worlds, they say Klimmer is full of śhit, although on good days, when the signal is clear and white, the higher ups announced he is okay with jehovah and the butt probing aliens will only communicate with him about their disco on the moon.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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^^^Alfred Wegener; The drifter?
What's even more egregious is to leave the all time Drifter, Jesus of Nazerith out of that list!
His teachings on Truths are still unfathomable today;
"You have heard that it was said, you shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I Jesus say to you, "Love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, that you may be sons of your father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward have you?
Do not even the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet your brother only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectors do so? Therefore you shall be perfect just as your Father in heaven is perfect. Mat. 5:43
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little Z
Trad climber
un cafetal en Naranjo
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he is diligently looking into things that are very uncomfortable to many
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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the dozens of pornography addicts on ST forum
Dozens of porn addicts? Shouldn't you start a fundraising thread?
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Not surprising, one loonie says take it easy on another loonie.
Klimmer enjoys being given a hard time, Cochrane. He can just spread his arms out and dream he is being crucified.
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