Hey Gary, it may be obvious to you, but I and perhaps others too need some help connecting the dots between my statements and your labeling it Marxism.

...commensurate with the value they create.

We want a system in which the worker shall get what he produces and the capitalist shall produce what he gets.”

Where am I getting it wrong?

We want a system in which the worker shall get what he produces and the capitalist shall produce what he gets.”

“Your honor, I ask no mercy, I plead for no immunity. I realize that finally the right must prevail. I never more fully comprehended than now the great struggle between the powers of greed on the one hand and upon the other the rising hosts of freedom. I can see the dawn of a better day of humanity. The people are awakening. In due course of time they will come into their own.”

Although the phrasing is weird and/or ambiguous, seems to me just the opposite is closer to reality.

"Bernie is the only person out there who I think is talking at all about both fiscal stimulation and banking rules that will get the banks to begin to generate lending again as opposed to speculation," he told CNBC.

"So from an economic point of view," he concluded, "it's straightforward.

You are as much subject to the command of the capitalist as if you were his property under the law. You have got to go to his factory because you have got to work; he is the master of your job, and you cannot work without his consent, and he only gives this on condtion that you surreder to him all you produce except what is necessary to keep you in running order.

The machine you work with has to be oiled; you have to be fed; the wage is your lubricant, it keeps you in working order, and so you toil and sweat and groan and reproduce yourself in the form of labor power, and then you pass away like a silk worm that spins its task and dies.

That is your lot in the capitalist system and you have no right to aspire to rise above the dead level of wage-slavery

It is true that one in ten thousand may escape from his class and become a millionaire; he is the rare exception that proves the rule. The wage-workers remain in the working class and they never can become anything else in the capitalist system. They produce and perish, and their exploited bones mingle in the dust.

Every few years there is a panic, industrial paralysis, and hundreds of thousands of workers are flung into the streets; no work, no wages; and so they throng the highways in search of employment that cannot be found; they become vagrants, tramps, outcasts, criminals. It is in this way that the human being degenerates, and that crime graduates in the capitalist system, all the way from petty larceny to homicide.

The working millions who produce the wealth have little or nothing to show for it. There is widespread ignorance among them; industrial and social conditions prevail that defy all language to properly describe. The working class consist of a mass of human beings, men, women, and children, in enforced competition with one another, in all of the circling hours of the day and night, for the sale of their labor power, and in the severity of the competition the wage sinks gradually until it touches the point of subsistence.

Dagne,

Like so many others, your rhetoric is tuned in to oppose the Republican party. And you can't even do that well.

When was the last time a Republican candidate even gave lip service to the concept of small government? You'd have to go a long ways back to find even an homage to small government much less action in that regard from the elephants.

The claim that government-run ANYTHING will result in unicorns farting rainbow skittles is admirable but totally fantasy. And usually results in money flying out of my pockets.

The current web of government regulations is a major contributor to the escalating costs and you want to just add more?

What on earth does a salaried ER doctor have to do with this discussion

and I'm wondering if your per-person cost estimates from Japan include the costs of the taxpayers that fund and prop up the system? I bet if you include that, the per person cost might be different.

In the end, the question is whether or not you think the government should be involved in the healthcare business. I do not.

Surely we are beyond the grossly oversimplified and counterproductive judgments like "Marxism is bad." "Communism is bad." "Socialism is bad."

In the case of healthcare, the figure is calculated by taking the total overall spending on healthcare (public and private) and dividing it by the number of inhabitants.

Long division, it's that simple.