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dirtbag
climber
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Kilmer, debunking this sh#t with you is truly a waste of time. Numerous people have tried but you are far too wrapped up in your delusions to understand.
Edit: it's not my job to debunk kookery on the Internet. You don't listen so what's the point?
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 2, 2013 - 06:38pm PT
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I always listen. Try.
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Abram
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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"Are you anti-Semitic or worse?"
...he said to the guy with Jewish blood. Where did "anti-Semitic" even come from in your thought process (or lack thereof)!? Who said anything about Jews!?
"Do you now want to decide who believes what, and to have the power to be able select their careers also? Who stays? Who goes?"
Call me a fascist, but yes—I would rather not have someone so deluded that they think there's a giant spaceship on the moon put there by the Nephilim (I skimmed, sorry) teaching critical thinking and the scientific method to our young people. I guess I'm the thought police now.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 2, 2013 - 06:44pm PT
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Aug 2, 2013 - 03:39pm PT
"Are you anti-Semitic or worse?"
...he said to the guy with Jewish blood. Where did "anti-Semitic" even come from in your thought process (or lack thereof)!? Who said anything about Jews!?
"Do you now want to decide who believes what, and to have the power to be able select their careers also? Who stays? Who goes?"
Call me a fascist, but yes—I would rather not have someone so deluded that they think there's a giant spaceship on the moon put there by the Nephilim (I skimmed, sorry) teaching critical thinking and the scientific method to our young people. I guess I'm the thought police now.
I'm part Ashkenazi Jewish.
Do you really want me to call you fascist? Really? I guess if you really want to control what people do, think, and believe then that is really scary.
Are you Jewish by ancestry or faith?
We have gone through this process many times. Perhaps you haven't. But no one is teaching our students "Forbidden Secret Knowledge," not even me. So you have no worries. We have State Standards and set Curriculum.
But I have my personal life and I can think very clearly and outside the State sanctioned box. Perhaps you can't?
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Abram
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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So because you're part Jew, you take anything anyone says as potentially anti-Semitic? I still don't understand where that accusation came from.
I'm Jewish by ancestry; used to be Jewish by faith, until I grew up. ;-)
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Abram
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Ha! Yes, I can't think outside of the "state-sanctioned box" because I don't believe there's a giant spaceship placed on the moon by the Nephilim. Riiiiight...
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Abram
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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"But no one is teaching our students "Forbidden Secret Knowledge," not even me. So you have no worries. We have State Standards and set Curriculum."
That wasn't my worry. My worry is that your thinking is so far removed from reality and science that you're about the least qualified person ever to teach critical/scientific thinking to others. 'You can keep an open mind without letting your brains leak out.'
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 2, 2013 - 07:00pm PT
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So you've turned your back on HaShem? You don't believe the Tenach? Nor read it anymore?
I could go back through all the physical evidence and the eye-witness testimony, and the testimony from our national heros such as the "Moonwalkers" like Mitchell et al. But then that is what this very long thread has always been about. No point in going back over all of it. It's there. Lots of reading and links to guide you.
Some people have a knee-jerk reaction to all the physical evidence. These would be deniers even in the face of an incredible amount of evidence and personal testimony from those in a position to know. Some people don't want it to be true. It messes with their reality way too much. They would rather bury their head in the sand with their fingers in their ears all while saying, "I can't hear you."
It's so true ...
THE SICKNESS OF NONBELIEF - CITIZEN HEARING – STANTON FRIEDMAN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_fCx4mP6Ng
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Abram
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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"Some people have a knee-jerk reaction to all the physical evidence. These would be deniers even in the face of an incredible amount of evidence and personal testimony from those in a position to know. Some people don't want it to be true. It messes with their reality way too much. They would rather bury their head in the sand with their fingers in their ears all while saying, "I can't hear you.""
Thank you for that excellent autobiography of Klimmer. Spot on.
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Abram
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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"So you've turned your back on HaShem? You don't believe the Tenach? Nor read it anymore?"
I prefer my moral basis to be genocide, murder, and rape-free, thank you very much. Besides which, I'm a bit old for imaginary friends.
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Abram
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Back on topic—there's no way I'm going through the mounds of inane "facts" you've posted, so why you don't you give me three, and only three, of the best, most compelling pieces of evidence for why you believe something so outlandish? And I mean three distinct pieces of evidence, not links to three different psycho conspiracy theory websites. Three verifiable, distinct pieces of evidence that prove you're not just a psycho.
I eagerly await your response. ;-)
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Abram, you know what happens when you piss into the wind, don't you?
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Abram
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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"Abram, you know what happens when you piss into the wind, don't you?"
Our reptilian overlords use it to create a pheromone profile to track me before our eventual enslavement? I think that's the general course of events, Klimmer can fill in the details for me.
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Abram
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Ed, couldn't say it better myself.
Dr. F., link is broken. This must be the work of the Illuminati...
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Abram
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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You failed at a very simple task, Klimmer. Did you see the part (multiple parts, actually) where I said "only three." The point is that, if you don't have even three solid pieces of evidence you can point out to me that makes you think something so extraordinary that it demands a HUGE amount of evidence to support, you're full of it.
If I said give me three pieces of evidence that gravity is real, you wouldn't say, "You're being lazy, go look it up for yourself," because it's extremely simple to come up with three pieces of evidence to show that gravity is real.
If I asked for three pieces of evidence to prove that evolution is real, it would be pretty simple to pick out three irrefutable pieces of evidence/research to support that.
I'm not being intellectually lazy. You simply don't have three good pieces of evidence that you could easily pick out, because it's all just a blur of half-assed thoughts and incoherent arguments that seem to maybe, sort of imply that this is the case, if you really stretch things, and that's good enough for you.
Given the ridiculousness of what you're claiming, three solid pieces of evidence is a pittance. So let's see 'em!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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So, Abram, would you tell an astronaut to his face that he is full of sh!t?
I'm certainly not man enough. Oh, and I only want a yes or a no.
Don't bother to answer if you're going to dance around the bush.
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Abram
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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THAT is your "evidence"? Seriously? You have to be a troll. What was supposed to be in all those pictures you sent? I looked through all of them and I don't see anything compelling enough to defy the entire scientific establishment. I didn't even see anything that looked like a spaceship.
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