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philo
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Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Dammit Locker that pic from my Task Force days is supposed to be classified. What are you on Ed Snowden's email list or something?
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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All righ dammitt if my "Task Force" medal from RunOld RayGun won't get me clearance past the oCOWpie MOOvers then I guess NerdVada is off my radar and my plan to return to the Res Arête scuttled. Any one up for a little "Black" action?
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Several have posted about their relatives, and not knowing about what they did in their respective wars.
Because of a friend, I know that it is possible to obtain the military records of relatives. Some may want to access that information.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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My dad's perspective was somewhat different. A pacifist conscript Royal Navy Lt Commander. Gunboats, corvettes and destroyers. Arctic convoys to Archangel and Murmansk in winter. Searching for subs and E boats in the coastal waters of the UK. Close in (about 3 miles) fire support ahead of the troops at Normandy. He said little about actual combat and nothing about the men he lost and the horrors he saw. My father served from 1940 through '46. With only shore leave. Luckily all his family avoided death.
The British, Germans, Dutch, Poles, Japanese, Italians and Russians had an experience of war Americans didn't. Not even US troops in combat. Let's not forget the Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals and Socialists imprisoned, tortured and slaughtered by the millions by the Nazis.
Their cities were destroyed, their women and children killed, their economies devastated. Rationed food, to the point of privation in England and starvation in Germany, Russia and Japan. My aunt and her daughter were moved with my grandparents to the countryside far from any city in spring of 1939 while my uncle remained in London as a Bobby. You can imagine what he went through. He never spoke of the war either.
For the destroyed countries, the war wasn't over until the early 50's. In 1947 and 48 my mother, in London, had to stand in line with ration coupons for milk, bread, eggs, flour, vegetables. A car, nylons? Fuggedabouddit. With rubble in the streets. Rationing didn't completely end in UK until about 1954.
The US and Canadian troops went to battle, were killed or wounded or not and came back to a still intact society. They saw Hell and the Dogs of War, knowing their families were safe at home.
You will notice that the countries at each others throats (excepting USSR and China) are now close allies and genuinely consider themselves friends. Even the former Soviet puppet states like Latvia, Poland, the Czech and Slovakian republics are part of Europe. There's a lesson in that.
They have put mutual benefit ahead of belligerence and anarchy as much as possible.
Not sure what this has to do with "militias" except perhaps true loyalty to country, English, German, Japanese, Russian whatever.
"Patriots" refusing to accept US law at Bundyville? Disgraceful.
I didn't see any of them standing unarmed and quietly by their signs while being handcuffed like many Vietnam War protestors. ChickenSH*t. Protesting behind children, women and guns? Cowardly.
9/11 was very bad, the worst ever for US civilians since the Civil War. Less than the first day US fatalities at Omaha Beach. Less than an average night fire bombing Coventry, Dresden or Tokyo. Read Vonnegut's Slaughterhouse Five. He was in the Dresden fire bombing. You might weep.
You could count all our dead from Iraq and Afghanistan and you'd have less than the worst day of Russian civilian deaths at Stalingrad or the pogrom in the Warsaw Ghetto.
Perhaps that's why we've been so eager for Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan. We've got NO idea.
~end of rant~
Ken M
I'll be doing that next time I go to London, hopefully this November. I have my father's medals, three pics in uniform and a trunk of censored letters between he and me mum.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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They estimate that Russia loss during WW2 was 21 to 28 million. The US comes in around 425,000.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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The Tighty Whities seem to have abandoned this thread like FoX Noise talking heads bailed on Bundy.
Public Embarrassment will do that.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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6 million murdered Jews a conservative estimate.
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thebravecowboy
climber
in the face of the fury of the funk
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Funny sh#t, Locker
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thebravecowboy
climber
in the face of the fury of the funk
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I knew it! Philo's been on the take this whole time!
Hahaha!
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thebravecowboy
climber
in the face of the fury of the funk
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Come to think of it, Reagan's right, black, hand bears some resemblance to the Bundyite 'sniper poseur' on the bridge in Bunkerville!
Can anyone corroborate Philo's whereabouts on that day? Is he a triple agent?
We already know that he is a provocative agent, but is he an agent provocateur provoker?
EDIT: I have just been fed. Post solo endorphins, some nice asada, well fed.
EDIT x2: Package sez Bundy Beef.... Blech, tastes like federal subsidy!
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crankster
Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
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The Tighty Whities seem to have abandoned this thread like FoX Noise talking heads bailed on Bundy.
Public Embarrassment will do that.
They all have Benghazi Fever. Faux has moved on.
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thebravecowboy
climber
in the face of the fury of the funk
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Benghazi Fever sounds worse than that rash on my thigh after I ran 38 miles. Should I have worn whitey tighties? Should I wear whitey tighties? Is that what is wrong with my lead head?
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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False flag gauntlet has been thrown! I'm amazed it took this long.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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You people, one side thinking the feds are out to get ya, (they are damnit!), and the other thinking the armed militia is standing up for your rights.
"You people" comes across like "The Negro".
Ignorant blanket statements from the un-tied States of ignorance.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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I struggled to watch a puff piece interview with Ol' Cliven's son who tried desperately to present himself to his adoring rabble that he was a scholar of Constitutional law. What he proved was the above statement is very true.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Philo
how do we know Bundy is a millionaire?
where did you see that?
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dirtbag
climber
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You forgot benghazzzzz...zzzzzzzz...zzz...
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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All is not well in Bunkerville. Rumor of an incoming drone controlled by the infamous Attorney General Eric Holder was bearing down on the Bundy stronghold intent on killing all of the Freedom Fighters in Freedomville was causing fear to run rampant through the otherwise stalwart ranks of the True Patriots! One sect, known as "Oath Keepers," decided that Keeping their Oath to having an intact integumentary system was more important than their Commitment to Freedom and chose to flee the Promised Land! This has not sat well with other Bundy Defenders who are refusing to let any Oath Keepers back into the lush valley of Bunkerville calling them traitors!
http://gawker.com/nevada-ranch-militias-turn-against-each-other-over-dron-1570140614
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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