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HighDesertDJ

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Topic Author's Reply - May 4, 2016 - 11:16am PT



http://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/692155362552778752
crankster

Trad climber
No. Tahoe
May 6, 2016 - 06:05am PT
The media will work to make the race seem close. It won't be. False equivalence abounds.

Truth and Trumpism

How will the news media handle the battle between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump? I suspect I know the answer — and it’s going to be deeply frustrating. But maybe, just maybe, flagging some common journalistic sins in advance can limit the damage. So let’s talk about what can and probably will go wrong in coverage — but doesn’t have to.

First, and least harmful, will be the urge to make the election seem closer than it is, if only because a close race makes a better story. You can already see this tendency in suggestions that the startling outcome of the fight for the Republican nomination somehow means that polls and other conventional indicators of electoral strength are meaningless.

The truth, however, is that polls have been pretty good indicators all along. Pundits who dismissed the chances of a Trump nomination did so despite, not because of, the polls, which have been showing a large Trump lead for more than eight months.

Oh, and let’s not make too much of any one poll. When many polls are taken, there are bound to be a few outliers, both because of random sampling error and the biases that can creep into survey design. If the average of recent polls shows a strong lead for one candidate — as it does right now for Mrs. Clinton — any individual poll that disagrees with that average should be taken with large helpings of salt.

A more important vice in political coverage, which we’ve seen all too often in previous elections — but will be far more damaging if it happens this time — is false equivalence.

You might think that this would be impossible on substantive policy issues, where the asymmetry between the candidates is almost ridiculously obvious. To take the most striking comparison, Mr. Trump has proposed huge tax cuts with no plausible offsetting spending cuts, yet has also promised to pay down U.S. debt; meanwhile, Mrs. Clinton has proposed modest spending increases paid for by specific tax hikes.

That is, one candidate is engaged in wildly irresponsible fantasy while the other is being quite careful with her numbers. But beware of news analyses that, in the name of “balance,” downplay this contrast.

This isn’t a new phenomenon: Many years ago, when George W. Bush was obviously lying about his budget arithmetic but nobody would report it, I suggested that if a candidate declared that the earth was flat, headlines would read, “Shape of the Planet: Both Sides Have a Point.” But this year it could be much, much worse.

And what about less quantifiable questions about behavior? I’ve already seen pundits suggest that both presumptive nominees fight dirty, that both have taken the “low road” in their campaigns. For the record, Mr. Trump has impugned his rivals’ manhood, called them liars and suggested that Ted Cruz’s father was associated with J.F.K.’s killer. On her side, Mrs. Clinton has suggested that Bernie Sanders hasn’t done his homework on some policy issues. These things are not the same.

Finally, I can almost guarantee that we’ll see attempts to sanitize the positions and motives of Trump supporters, to downplay the racism that is at the heart of the movement and pretend that what voters really care about are the priorities of D.C. insiders — a process I think of as “centrification.”

That is, after all, what happened after the rise of the Tea Party. I’ve seen claims that Tea Partiers were motivated by Wall Street bailouts, or even that the movement was largely about fiscal responsibility, driven by voters upset about budget deficits.

In fact, there was never a hint that any of these things mattered; if you followed the actual progress of the movement, it was always about white voters angry at the thought that their taxes might be used to help Those People, whether via mortgage relief for distressed minority homeowners or health care for low-income families.

Now I’m seeing suggestions that Trumpism is driven by concerns about political gridlock. No, it isn’t. It isn’t even mainly about “economic anxiety.”

Trump support in the primaries was strongly correlated with racial resentment: We’re looking at a movement of white men angry that they no longer dominate American society the way they used to. And to pretend otherwise is to give both the movement and the man who leads it a free pass.

In the end, bad reporting probably won’t change the election’s outcome, because the truth is that those angry white men are right about their declining role. America is increasingly becoming a racially diverse, socially tolerant society, not at all like the Republican base, let alone the plurality of that base that chose Donald Trump.

Still, the public has a right to be properly informed. The news media should do all it can to resist false equivalence and centrification, and report what’s really going on.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/06/opinion/truth-and-trumpism.html?ref=opinion&_r=0
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
May 6, 2016 - 07:05am PT
Thanks crankster...good read..
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - May 6, 2016 - 12:41pm PT
Yeah it's interesting to watch the media simultaneously not see any possibility for a Trump win but also be completely insecure about how wrong they've been so far in the election and also be desperate for a good race.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - May 12, 2016 - 05:03am PT
Well that's some sh#t right there

George Zimmerman auctions gun that killed Trayvon Martin

The gun used to kill Trayvon Martin, a young black teenager who was shot in Florida, is being auctioned at a starting bid of $5,000.

George Zimmerman, the man accused of killing Martin in 2012, has listed the Kel-Tec PF-9 9mm on a gun broker website.

"The firearm for sale is the firearm that was used to defend my life and end the brutal attack from Trayvon Martin on 2/26/2012," says Zimmerman, in the description.
crankster

Trad climber
No. Tahoe
May 12, 2016 - 06:44am PT
He'd be perfect for a keynote speaking spot at the GOP convention. He'd bring the house down.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - May 12, 2016 - 06:48am PT
Next on ebay: the full compliment of batons used to beat Rodney King. Own a piece of American history!
dirtbag

climber
May 12, 2016 - 06:50am PT
I'm sure that some puke will fork over whatever amount he is asking without hesitation.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - May 12, 2016 - 06:50am PT
Later this afternoon: The broom stick used to sodomize Abner Louima. History!
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - May 12, 2016 - 07:25am PT


lol.....this effing guy
dirtbag

climber
May 12, 2016 - 10:13pm PT
Yes, Texas republicans really are going to have a vote to decide whether the state should secede from the United States.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/?nid=menu_nav_politics
TomCochrane

Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
May 12, 2016 - 10:26pm PT
We’ve known about the government’s desire to manipulate social media for years. Back in February 2011, just as the wars on Libya and Syria were beginning, an interesting story was published by PC World under the title Army of Fake Social Media Friends to Promote Propaganda which explained in very mundane language that:

…the U.S. government contracted HBGary Federal for the development of software which could create multiple fake social media profiles to manipulate and sway public opinion on controversial issues by promoting propaganda. It could also be used as surveillance to find public opinions with points of view the powers-that-be didn’t like. It could then potentially have their “fake” people run smear campaigns against those “real” people.

Close observers of the US-NATO war on Libya will recall just how many twitter accounts miraculously surfaced, with tens of thousands of followers each, to “report” on the “atrocities” carried out by Muammar Gaddafi’s armed forces, and call for a No Fly Zone and regime change. Certainly one is left to wonder now, as many of us did at the time, whether those accounts weren’t simply fakes created by either a Pentagon computer program, or by paid trolls.

And this last point is perhaps the key: online manipulation is designed to control narratives. While the war may be fought on the battlefield, it is equally fought for the hearts and minds of activists, news consumers, and ordinary citizens in the West. The UK and US both have extensive information war capabilities, and they’re not afraid to use them. And so, we should not be afraid to expose them.

Eric Draitser is an independent geopolitical analyst based in New York City, he is the founder of StopImperialism.org
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
May 12, 2016 - 11:38pm PT
I heard the Zimmerman auction got shut down before it even started.

I don't ever use this, but....

LOL!
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - May 13, 2016 - 06:52am PT
The auction reached $65 million before it was shut down. A onetime leading bidder was Racist McShootFace and username Tamir Rice was also used. There were apparently some potentially legitimate bids as high as $500,000 but who knows.

tl;dr- F*#k that guy, seriously.
dirtbag

climber
May 13, 2016 - 07:52am PT
Major kudos to president Obama for standing up for transgender students in public schools:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-administration-to-instruct-schools-to-accommodate-transgender-students/2016/05/12/0ed1c50e-18ab-11e6-aa55-670cabef46e0_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_transgender-1025pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

He's using his bully pulpit, power of the purse, and legal sticks.

I'm going to miss him.
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
May 13, 2016 - 07:57am PT
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/has-the-obama-administration-learned-anything-last-deportation-raids


I kinda like obama but nevermind..
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - May 13, 2016 - 08:04am PT
Dirt- Yeah a ballsy move. I heard a lawyer for some high school girls complaining about this sort of thing and how they don't feel comfortable changing in their locker room anymore but nobody seems to have brought up the fact that there are lesbians in those locker rooms right now.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
May 13, 2016 - 08:48am PT
If American high school girls weren't so fat maybe they wouldn't be so self-conscious.
The Swedish girls I showered with in a high school there were workin' it! And I don't
mean the flab. For 50 years Swedish high schools have only had one locker room.
That saves a ton of moolah, not to mention yer imagination.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
May 13, 2016 - 08:55am PT
Obama should be ashamed for having allowed this travesty to be foisted on us:


One more huge increase in medical costs ALL built around gubmint bureaucratic job security.
dirtbag

climber
May 13, 2016 - 09:20am PT
Really you are on a roll this morning!
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