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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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Wait a minute. Aren't we supposed to be alone here according to the good book?
Where do alien spaceships fit in?
Read the first post in the thread.
You have to read your Bible, the Book of Genesis, and the Book of Enoch to understand this hidden history. Fallen Angels mated with beautiful Earthly women, and had off-spring called Nephalim. They were big, strong, very intelligent and were the combination of the worst of the Fallen Angels, and the worst of Mankind. They were a hybrid species that wasn't supposed to be. The Bible has a lot to say about the Giants, the Nephalim. It is why GOD had to wipe them all out with a massive global flood. But the Bible also says they continued to live on after the flood. Not all of them were destroyed. Could it be that they also built an Ark and escaped off World? They had the intelligence of Angels, the Fallen Angels, whom by the way taught man all kinds of forbidden knowledge, such as War. The Book of Enoch goes into all of this in detail . . .
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jfailing
Trad climber
Lone Pine
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don't you just love to paint yourself into that scenario? but you'll die before it happens, klim, just like every other can't-wait-for-it-all-to-be-over christian of the past 2,000 years.
the problem is, buddy, you're closing your mind to material which doesn't fit into your picture. in that, you're ignoring many keys to figuring this out--just as your detractors here ignore just about everything.
T-Bird nailed it...
The shot of the spaceship on the OP looks so fake it's hilarious.
And the spaceship? Looks like topography to me.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - May 3, 2012 - 08:48pm PT
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Why do you insist on using a larger copy of the Apollo 15 image that has been obviously altered to add disinfo and even to the point of removing key boulders? I've already gone into detail on this image in this thread before.
Of course it looks fake. It was manipulated to appear so.
Edit:
I'll get back later. My iphone is running out of battery. Just to let you know, there is very likely another spacecraft in the 2 Apollo 15 and Apollo 17 images. I haven't talked about it yet. Others have seen it also. And it stands out in stereo 3D detail. It's discussed in the original Apollo 20 story by retiredAFB.
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monolith
climber
albany,ca
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Your arrows did not point to 'clearly seen' boulders. We've been over this with you before.
Please tell us why the conspirators would have to remove boulders that are not on the 'ark' anyway?
Never mind Klimmer, I'm headed out to the comedy club and will get plenty of laughs.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - May 3, 2012 - 09:09pm PT
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The above faked/disinfo image has been wildly blended and detail has been added that is not in the original image. Note: the stereo pair fake partner of this image has not been produced.
The above image has been significantly altered and misrepresented purposefully. Deliberate disinfo.
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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cheers for tom's observations. philosophy talk among climbers, while often getting nowhere, seems to fall back on a certain brotherhood and sisterhood. perhaps it makes us consider opposing points of view a little more than we would do otherwise. as i said previously, i have to thank klimmer for helping me to take the ETH (extraterrestrial hypothesis) seriously.
likewise i might thank this thread's resident curmudgeon healyje for a look at joe feddersen's art via the colville tribal website, and now for the greek way by edith hamilton.
i've mentioned two recent scriptural scholars, erhman and pagels. ehrman makes the observation that--as tom seems to have found with his dad--most scholars of the bible and related literature are themselves believers, and no matter how careful they try to be, belief colors all the "scholarship" that they do.
Wait a minute. Aren't we supposed to be alone here according to the good book?
Where do alien spaceships fit in?
let me catch you up on that, survival.
there's a whole christian point of view, vis-a-vis the ETH. it isn't totally flaky, at least as far as mainstream religion goes. the vatican seems to have taken some real interest in the subject lately. there are also christian websites which deal with the abduction experience. if you think the abduction experience is totally flaky, you just haven't looked at it. many, many people, including some prominent ones--i mentioned a nobel prize winner earlier on this thread--have gone through this. christians who invoke the name of jesus--kinda like the old waving of a cross in the face of a vampire attack--seem to have avoided apparent unwanted abduction. but there seem to be other successful ways of doing that. you also have friendly "contactee" experiences, with supposedly nonthreatening, even spiritual and loving "aliens", or whatever the hell or heaven they are. if you guys think it's all nonsense, it's because you haven't taken a close look at the material. there's a whole lot of it going on, and serious researchers like mack, hopkins, appelle and jacobs have spent years examining it. i doubt healyje wants to look at any of this too closely--he'll be much more comfortable dismissing it out of hand, but i doubt the categories he dismisses it to hold up well against the accumulated evidence.
klimmer looks at the ETH in terms of genesis accounts of warring angels/devils. ETH people would have us believe in annunaki, pleidians, ET tribes from orion and even andromeda, and also earthbound subterraneans, reptoids--a whole beastiary. i think vallee is on the right track. this is all part of "the phenomenon". the phenomenon is real, and it has a physical basis. those who experience it are not crazy, but it seems to be more of a mental/perceptual thing than the nuts-and-bolts flying saucers which were our first explanation. it probably involves intelligent beings, but they could be from other dimensions, not other solar systems. they can be ornery, mischievous, friendly. they may be more of a presence here than we've ever dreamed of, and they could well be involved with religion and government, controlling us through these means for a long time.
what doesn't fit, however, when you take a close look at this material, is the "lonely planet" hypothesis. we are not isolated here. things have been going on, and the activity seems to have intensified as our own complexity has evolved.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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My iphone is running out of battery.
Thank you God.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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You have to read your Bible, the Book of Genesis, and the Book of Enoch to understand this hidden history. Fallen Angels mated with beautiful Earthly women, and had off-spring called Nephalim. They were big, strong, very intelligent and were the combination of the worst of the Fallen Angels, and the worst of Mankind. They were a hybrid species that wasn't supposed to be. The Bible has a lot to say about the Giants, the Nephalim. It is why GOD had to wipe them all out with a massive global flood. But the Bible also says they continued to live on after the flood. Not all of them were destroyed. Could it be that they also built an Ark and escaped off World? They had the intelligence of Angels, the Fallen Angels, whom by the way taught man all kinds of forbidden knowledge, such as War. The Book of Enoch goes into all of this in detail . . .
angels, my ass
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dirtbag
climber
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No wonder our kids are bombing in science.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - May 3, 2012 - 11:48pm PT
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The same doubting Thomases show up time and time again. If you think its all bovine dung then why even waste your time? At least Tony and Tom give it thoughtful due diligence and don't wave it off with a flick of their hands.
I fully admit that I take the Biblical/ Christian ET= Fallen Angel hypothesis. Many others do also. At least History Channel considers it by its very mention.
Does anyone have an idea where the 2nd spaceship is in the original Apollo 15 and 17 stereopairs? I'm curious if anyone else on ST sees it. Others have located it on other websites. Any takers?
Sorry to dissapoint you bvb. My battery is now charging as I type.
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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klimmer, you keep reposting this stuff about stereo pairs, and i'm just not following it and you're not convincing the kids in the peanut gallery. i think you should take a thorough look at john lear's pegasus consortium page. there are a lot of people involved with it, and some of them seem to have technical brains, but they're all telling us stuff much more outrageous than this old, crashed ark business. here's just one of the gang:
http://www.keithlaney.net/ThreeArtificialStructures/ThreeArtificialStructures.html
it'd be nice to get lear himself to take an interest in this thread. he's got more attitude than the combined lot of us and seems to take great delight in blogfights.
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jfailing
Trad climber
Lone Pine
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Why do you insist on using a larger copy of the Apollo 15 image that has been obviously altered to add disinfo and even to the point of removing key boulders?
I'm curious as to why the picture I posted is considered disinfo. How is it less genuine or authentic than the pictures you've posted? It looks like it's a better resolution photo of the previously posted pictures... Am I supposed to include sources? If so, where are yours?
The "low resolution" JAXA image you posted indeed is actually much higher resolution than the others - you can't deny that. You can tell by being able to see the ejecta rings from the craters.
In case any onlookers are interested, here is the stereo pair Klimmer has been posting, aligned correctly so that one may view it correctly:
(you can view it on the screen by zooming in or out and slightly crossing your eyes).
If you think its all bovine dung then why even waste your time?
Because time I have. You're more than welcome to believe whatever you want, but I'm just putting forth my observations that the images presented do not show a spaceship, but some irregular topography inside of an old crater. If anything, it would be more evident of some sort of fluid flow creating this feature than anything.
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monolith
climber
albany,ca
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Klimmer said:
Note: the stereo pair fake partner of this image has not been produced
You can say the dumbest stuff, Klimmer. If this were true, it means you could have just zoomed in on 9625, found the dependencies with 9630 and been the ark hero.
Or maybe you could have just googled for it. Ask your students for some basic google tips.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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For about the hundredth time - we have photo resolution down to the astronaut's footprint and rover trails. No need for any mystery around what's at this location.
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lostinshanghai
Social climber
someplace
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“The Sleep of Reason Produces Monsters” by Francisco Goya.
It consists of a self-portrait of the artist with his head on a table, as owls and bats surround him, assailing him as he buries his head into his arms. Seemingly poised to attack the artist are owls [symbols of folly] and bats [symbols of ignorance].
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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NASA photos of alien artifacts on the moon.
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
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when some of these photos came down, i had the privilege of showing Buz Aldrin images of his foot tracks at their landing site
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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May 11, 2012 - 06:10pm PT
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Tom, seems you'd be in a position to know, are we talking a rock form or an alien ark and NASA has been hiding the high res shots of that area because of it...?
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