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tuolumne_tradster
Trad climber
concord, california
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Licky: in case you're not already aware of it, Lynn Hill devoted a chapter of her book "Climbing Free" to the plane crash.
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Licky
Mountain climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 9, 2007 - 03:51am PT
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TT...thanks, yep we knew about the book. Pam has talked to Lynn.
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Licky
Mountain climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 19, 2007 - 03:43am PT
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Just interviewed the #2 guy in the drug operation. Man, the stories he told!
Here's one. They made 14 flights from Mexico to California in 14 days. The size of the "pile" that they moved was 4'x3'x75'. 40 pound bales.
You would not believe how he lives and what he does in his spare time! Amazing!
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Jim Wilcox
Boulder climber
Santa Barbara
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Feb 19, 2007 - 10:19am PT
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Solitary?
Pushups?
Am I warm???
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Licky
Mountain climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 19, 2007 - 12:51pm PT
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Not even close...no one ever spent a night in jail
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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Feb 19, 2007 - 01:04pm PT
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Does he go by the nickname of El Presidente or something similar??? hahaha.
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Mt Lovr
Boulder climber
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I've really enjoyed reading this thread from the beginning and I look forward to buying the book. However, the worry of what the cops/Feds/IRS whoever might do to those climbers who found and "liberated" the weed all those years ago seems like silly Baby Boomer paranoia. It was 1,500 pounds of shitty Mexican schwag, full of seeds and baled, for crying out loud. Speculation and remarks about the quality after the crash are kinda moot, 'cause it was low-grade to begin with -- and I'm sure the lake and AV fuel didn't improve the taste or high. And at $400 a pound? Do the math! It would only be $60,000 divided by however many people helped themselves -- truly a pittance in the drug trade. The notion of "talking to lawyers" and worrying about "the man" coming knocking because of comments posted in this forum are laughable.
Kinda disappointing that it wasn't quality California-grown sinsemilla, which today is worth $4,000 a pound wholesale at the many legal cannabis dispensaries in Cali.
And Chainsaw? I thought he was a made-up, DARE rhetoric-spouting joke character until his identity was revealed. And then it was apparent he was kind of a made-up joke character, but a real one...
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Ballaroama
Trad climber
so.cal
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Snark! Yep, Chainsaw is a fool. A few comments about your post, good California green bud did exist back in those days but valued at around $800-$1000 per lbs. In very rare cases very high quality sensi (it was almost all sensi in those days) it was sold for more than $1000 per lbs. It went way up in price in the eighties when when different strains came into play. $4000 lbs didn't come about for many years after the crash. 1500 pounds? No, I think you will find it a much bigger load when you read the book.
Also the quality of the crash buds varied due to water damage and aviation fuel. Not all of it was full of seeds typical of low grade Mexican. It sounds like you smoked some so I don't wish to lecture you in any way but I remember differently, it doesn't matter but my two cents had to get in there.
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bachar
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Yeah - some o' dat stuff was bunk but some was pretty killer. Also, I know a dude who was selling it for $800 a pound. Weed wasn't that expensive at that time either.
That dude bought a 1968 VW van that was like almost new for $1968 and a top-o'da-line Masi racing bicycle for $800, which was like dee most expensive bike you could get in dem daze. Crazy how times change....
Oh yeah that chainsaw guy was cool (still is)...heh heh
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rmuir
Social climber
the Time Before the Rocks Cooled.
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Yeah, JB, that was a pretty sweet Masi that that guy bought. Purchased with some serendipitous stash, I unna stand...
Back then, there were quite a few climbers riding fine cycles. Man, half the climbers I knew in Berkeley back then were riding a branded Colñago, Pogliaghi, Masi, Cinelli, Bianchi, or (even) a Schwinn Paramount! Expensive bikes, every one. Where did we ever get that kind of cash?
Were all those guys dealing drugs at Indian Rock, back then?
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G_Gnome
Boulder climber
Sick Midget Land
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I remember that guys new red and white VW van. It was NICE!
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Albion
Trad climber
Bristol, UK
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Mt Lovr says "do the math"...
well, 1500lbs x $400 = $600,000
or did I miss something?
enthralling read anyway
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Sewelllymon
climber
Sierra Madre, CA
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hey Ballorama is back!! dude you've been way too quiet as of late.
and yea- that Chainsaw. Trying hard to insure the purity of the Youth of America. or sumthing...
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Jefe'
Boulder climber
Bishop
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Lodestar Lightning. Remember the van and bike.
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Licky
Mountain climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2007 - 08:46pm PT
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The project is running very well. Lots of great stories from people that are constantly coming out of the woodwork. Just when I think I have just about everything I need, a bunch more doors open up.
I have a photo of the pilot on his first hike across the border with his backpack full. He was on his way to making enough to buy his first plane.
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Majid_S
Mountain climber
Bay Area
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$600.000 back then
In today's money that is $16 million
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Licky
Mountain climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2007 - 09:16pm PT
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At one point they made 14 flights in 14 days!
Now recalculate.
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Licky
Mountain climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 5, 2007 - 02:43am PT
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Weschrist...nothing worse than facts!
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Licky
Mountain climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 5, 2007 - 10:48pm PT
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Ballorama...hey, I'm sorry I missed your post. Bad me......
Hope all is well...drop a dime on me sometime
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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Wes,right about that time(I was thinking 78, but, memory, WTF) we drove south from Laramie to see Bob and the Wailers @ redrocks. En route we heard on the radio that the concert was canceled 'cause Mr Marley broke his foot! instead, we visited a friend in Golden and had chinese food at some place that you could see a cap of rocky cliffs on table mesa(?)from.
"I hiked up there, didn't see any climbing, it's not as good as it looks," my friend or his brother said.
also missed the plane crash goldrush by timing of college spring break;friends that stayed in camp another week got the bird's eye lowdown, so to speak.
So close, so often.
sorry, all, excuse the drift.
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