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Degaine
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Dec 29, 2018 - 01:02am PT
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WBraun wrote:
LOL ......
Again .... A guy goes climbing without a rope and everyone with no life loses it and goes ape sh!t over it ......
Are you saying that those who went to see the movie have no life?
As far as the blog post (and subsequent thread), the solo and documentary were simply a pretext for the author to write about her target topic (but you already knew that).
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Degaine
climber
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Dec 29, 2018 - 01:13am PT
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Moosedrool wrote:
I don’t like crude remarks, for sure, but noticing a woman because she pleases your eye shouldn’t be threaded like an offense. (Again, doing it tastefuly).
Where in the blog post does the author write that a man finding a woman attractive is an offense? Where does any feminist, #metoo, etc., text or argument indicated that it is offensive for men to find women attractive?
Even with regard to Kate Courtney, she doesn't express disappointment (or offense) about men finding her attractive, but rather of being reduced to simply looks after winning a race.
You seem to take the Toxic Masculinity blog post personally - why is that?
For me, I took no offense (do feel no need to get defensive) and appreciate the opportunity to view the world from the author's perspective.
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Robb
Social climber
Cat Box
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Dec 29, 2018 - 09:34am PT
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".....and appreciate the opportunity to view the world from the author's perspective."
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Degaine
climber
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Dec 29, 2018 - 12:14pm PT
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Moosedrool wrote:
Nothing personal, Degaine.
Your post illustrates well my point how some people can get offended by a non-issue.
I just wanted to have a discussion, but got attacked instead.
Why?
Moose
Perhaps both our posts illustrate the limits of the 2D nature of the internet, and how tone (or lack thereof) in a written medium can be misinterpreted. Sometimes tone is pretty obvious, and other times not so easy to catch and what we perceive as being negative (or an attack) might simply be in our heads.
I no way, shape, or form was I offended by your post, and my intent was certainly not to attack. Just having a discussion, as you put it.
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Aeriq
Sport climber
100-year Visitor
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Dec 29, 2018 - 09:36pm PT
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The real epitome is when a thread about an epidemic of toxic masculinity gets the masculine spray-down.
Solid work, Men.
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Chris Cunningham
Trad climber
San Francisco
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Dec 30, 2018 - 11:41am PT
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I read enough of this man-hating BS.
Sugar-n-Spice...everything nice?
Misandry...Google it, bitch.
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Dec 30, 2018 - 08:28pm PT
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Robb, a photo of the possessed lady masturbating with a cross from the Exercist? Just a guess.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Love women with a healthy sense of humor.
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WBraun
climber
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but you still do ...
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capseeboy
Social climber
portland, oregon
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I've had two beers and a little of this weak pink wine the neighbor gave my wife, but am I the only one that wants to hear more anecdotes about old guys getting boners because they walked past a hot young girl on a trail?
Finally some grist for my mill. Ironically, grist (ropemaking) A given size of rope, common grist being a rope three inches in circumference, with twenty yarns in each of the three strands to hang myself with.
Now then, ahem, I still want JL to interview Erin, or me. I have a movie plot I would give him just to see it hit the screen. I suspect my idea isn't novel given ambient collective unconsciousness.
TB thanks for the Going Up suggested reading. Personally I find anecdotal stories surrounding the climbing to be more interesting than, the climb.
Am I guilty of being toxic? Well I certainly felt poisoned by testosterone, and societies stigma of being a lone male. Hence, pressure to find a female instead of just being my unappropriated self and taking care of 'it' myself.
Is this really just a toxic spray down blow back thread or is it balanced reporting? BTW, balanced televised reporting was struck down awhile ago, no longer required by law. LOL.
Appropriated. Shat. We have all been appropriated by our instincts, dna, epigenics, natural environment, societal influences, parents, et al.
I'm just a bundle of made up beliefs and instincts. Can you see the real me? I can't.
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Blakey
Trad climber
Sierra Vista
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Jeez they ain't wearin shoes - how can they do that!
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Rollover
climber
Gross Vegas
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Somebody needs to show Erin that men can make great pussy-lickers too.
Maybe show her studious friends too?
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Just remember that every time you attack Erin in terms of her gender, her sexuality, or her activism, you provide evidence that she is correct.
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Rollover
climber
Gross Vegas
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Meh.
Nice try.
She disses her BF who can’t make her come on her
social media.
Double edged sword that will not cut both ways.
Lynne may have been on to something
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edn26
climber
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She now has posts on Instagram seeking to compare Alex saying 'It's no big deal' to Brett Kavanaugh and Louis C.K dismissing sexual misconduct accusations. This all seems very weird to me. The very baseline of like 'be aware of your privilege' or even 'Honnold could have been nicer to his GF' (he's said as much repeatedly) seems fair, but the jump to making Honnold some representation of male domination run amok seems very weird and slightly unhinged.
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