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aspendougy
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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May 21, 2018 - 03:01pm PT
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Just so you all know, there is talk now that some of the dead or wounded may have been hit by cross fire. The police spokesman doesn't think this is the case, but says the autopsies will tell. If so, this could be a reason why arming schools heavily is not such a good idea.
If you look at the stats, even the police are incredibly inaccurate when they shoot.
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WBraun
climber
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May 21, 2018 - 05:10pm PT
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I remember a SAR guy in Camp 4 who had a loaded 45 magnum gun in his truck.
Nothing ever happened you anti-gun nut pussies......
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WBraun
climber
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May 21, 2018 - 05:44pm PT
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LOL you responded to this .... and more lol ......
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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May 21, 2018 - 07:33pm PT
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I'm personally all for coming for your guns. Is there any legitimate purpose for guns that require more than 100 million guns? Not as far as I'm concerned so that means we could easily roundup and meltdown about 200 million excess guns. And really, with 300 million guns already in circulation, I can't think of a single reason - aside from a highly activist interpretation of the 2nd - why guns should be so readily available, ridiculously easy to purchase, or why gun owners shouldn't be regulated exactly like cars and drivers. So why haven't you done it? Could it be those pesky things called elections? I get it; democracy sucks when you're full of bad ideas.
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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May 22, 2018 - 06:15am PT
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Well, Tut, if it wasn't clear before--lol--it is now. You're clearly unhinged:
"To Serve and Protect" is not what every LEO believes. More like "Shoot First, Ask Questions Later".
When most cops will NEVER fire their weapons on the job in the course of an entire career? The good news is that they will come to your aid even with your twisted views. Yep. There are some bad cops, and they need to be rooted out and disposed of, and I think the modern era of cameras everywhere is really helping in this regard. But most are dedicated men and women doing a job that is so boring, so unpredictable, so difficult that I suspect you wouldn't last a month. We ask them to deal with the absolute crap of humanity, and I'm really grateful some people will stand up and take on that burden.
BAd
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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May 22, 2018 - 10:28am PT
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By your logic, Planned Parenthood is a terrorist organization.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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May 22, 2018 - 10:30am PT
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we should arm the feti
NRA is not terrorist, just a corporate tentacle up in your government britches. besides, NRA members don't do shootings, just fertilizer bombings of federal buildings
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TradMike
Trad climber
Cincinnati, Ohio
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May 22, 2018 - 10:35am PT
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The NRA is not a terrorist organization. A lot of mindful gun owners are part of that group and they do keep their guns locked up in safes. I wonder how many NRA members have taken part in said violence? Guns have been around since they were created and things were fine for a long time. It seems people don't want to look at the correct problem. Society has degraded significantly. Population is hitting its saturation point (note the caravans of people fleeing violence, water shortages, food shortages). Social media is downright evil when in the hands of a minor and some adults. Kids bully the sh#t out of each other on social media until someone snaps (where are the police of social media - they don't care for one thing but money). The news perpetuates the problem and invested in the exact things that are creating the problem. Families don't sit down for dinner anymore and have meaningful conversations. People don't live by the mantra - treat other like you want to be treated. Some of our movies and video games also model excellent villain characters to take after if you are a bit off in the head.
You can only put so many cattle in a pasture of fixed size before you start having decline and collapse of the heard (same goes with a fish tanks, humans). I'm afraid it is the beginning of the end. We are doomed, you can't fix stupid! Oh and it is not the guns, guns have created more peace than anything else.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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May 22, 2018 - 10:41am PT
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if facebook wanted to atone for getting played like a fake-news piano they might take some initiative in monitoring for, and reporting, the sh#t that idiots like these mass shooters post....
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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May 22, 2018 - 11:39am PT
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@KingTut: a Constitutional Right to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. . .
I'll let you try to figure out the problem with your statement. Report back when you're better prepared.
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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May 22, 2018 - 11:50am PT
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I am fully aware that exact text is from the Declaration of Independence
Apparently you weren't. ;-
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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May 22, 2018 - 11:51am PT
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Lituya, you spend a lot of time in the classroom these days?
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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May 22, 2018 - 11:52am PT
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Oh and it is not the guns, guns have created more peace than anything else.
I really don't get the positions that it's not the guns or it's all the guns. There's many avenues to address the why this is happening and there's also the how. Similar countries don't have the school shootings problem like we do and it seems the biggest difference is the proliferation of guns, so to say gun control is not part of the problem is just wrong and shows skewed thinking IMO
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 22, 2018 - 12:10pm PT
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Switzerland has more fully automatic weapons per capita than we do.
They’re just not a nation of loonies.
OK, time for kingtush to work up some spittle...
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monolith
climber
state of being
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May 22, 2018 - 12:26pm PT
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I'd love to have Swiss gun laws here. The NRA would not.
Always a hoot when the Swiss are brought up.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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May 22, 2018 - 12:28pm PT
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King Tush indeed.
Murphy's law can be worked in reverse.
Been carrying for years, because everyone knows that you will need it only when you DON'T have it, and I don't want to need it.
In fact if I DO need it I have likely already made at least one mistake already.
But if I am wrong then at least I'll have it.
(wish we kept our ranges as clean as the Swiss)
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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May 22, 2018 - 12:55pm PT
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You put more faith in other men, with guns, than I do, Toker. Even armed and aware, I do not exalt myself to the point of believing that when i carry it somehow resolves the issue of other idiots with guns.
I concur with monolith.
I believe that Gun access needs to be more fundamentally encouraged and enforced, or more tightly restricted. Gun access is part, but nowhere near all, of the issue. If just women, or hell, if just not any swinging-duck white-ass testosterone colonies, carried religiously, things would be different. Still, naturally, I'd prefer it if we could live in a world of less need for immediate power of death-dealing.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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May 22, 2018 - 12:59pm PT
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I put so little faith in others with guns that I've stopped going to the local range where I've been repeatedly muzzle swept so much that I now have my own shooting facility out in the boonies.
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Degaine
climber
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May 22, 2018 - 01:17pm PT
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DMT wrote:
Too bad you can’t wave your angry magic wand and impose your righteousness on those little ignorant savages, King Tut.
I tried that once and they moved me from Gryffindor to Hufflepuff.
But that was years ago.
Now I'm a (Jewish) dentist.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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May 22, 2018 - 01:18pm PT
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The NRA is not a terrorist organization.
Well, that's one opinion and not one I share.
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