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rottingjohnny

Sport climber

Sands Motel , Las Vegas

Jan 15, 2018 - 07:32pm PT

and his spokesperson...

Winemaker

Sport climber

Yakima, WA

Topic Author's Reply - Jan 15, 2018 - 08:57pm PT

OT. Cosmic, is there some way to display a comment number? Looked but didn't find.

Winemaker

Sport climber

Yakima, WA

Topic Author's Reply - Jan 15, 2018 - 09:08pm PT

To bring Sh#t-Holiness full circle, the field foreman at the winery I worked at until a year ago died Friday of a massive heart attack while walking with his girlfriend after work. He was Hispanic, not that it matters, and a decent guy. It drove home that we're all the same and we are all headed, eventually, to the same end. I just don't get all the hate I'm seeing.

jogill

climber

Colorado

Jan 15, 2018 - 09:12pm PT

China will soon become the new world leader, or maybe Germany

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/17185/the-german-navy-has-decided-to-return-their-new-frigate-to-the-ship-store-this-christmas

German engineering?

Bruce Morris

Trad climber

Soulsbyville, California

Jan 15, 2018 - 09:38pm PT

Blohm+Voss Shipyard, oh my!

German over-engineering you mean. Same reason Tigers and Panthers were so impossible to maintain and operate out on the Russian steppes. Great when they worked, but a liability when they stayed in the maintenance yards.

Same reason it takes an act of God to change out the striker in the door of my BMW Z3. Easy to break the internal antenna too, but a 2-hour nightmare digging into the trunk to replace. Myth and reality.

My vote goes to the Chinese.

Reilly

Mountain climber

The Other Monrovia- CA

Jan 15, 2018 - 09:46pm PT

German over-engineering you mean

Same reason pilots who have flown both prefer Boeings to Airbuses.
A Boeing allows the pilot more control.

Bethesda

Trad climber

Bethesda

Jan 16, 2018 - 05:01am PT

Williams Langwiesche, the aviation writer, argued that it was the pilot-assist control features of the A320 that enabled Captain Sullenberger to safely land his plane on the Hudson.

https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=120355655

In one of his articles, Langwiesche used the memorable phrase, it was as if a long-retired French engineer had reached out his hand and gently eased the plane down on to the Hudson. Or something like that.

As you can imagine, Langwiesche's views engendered great dispute. I am not competent to judge the matter. But it seems to me that which system pilots prefer is pretty much irrelevant, from an engineering point of view. Unless you are arguing that reliance on autopilot degrades pilot skills. E.g., the crash of the Korean airliner at San Francisco airport.

fear

Ice climber

hartford, ct

Jan 16, 2018 - 05:36am PT

SIGN POSTED AT EVENT HORIZON:

WARNING - BLACK HOLE AHEAD

There has been soooo much politard nonsense and one too many tantrums thrown into this thread that it's collapsed into a tardality.

The attraction is so strong, even Ed H. can't escape!

EdwardT

Trad climber

Retired

Jan 16, 2018 - 06:44am PT

Despite POTUS allegedly saying mean words about Haiti, it's pretty much a consensus that Haiti is a sh*thole, right?

Or is Port au Prince actually a tropical paradise?

JLP

Social climber

The internet

Jan 16, 2018 - 06:57am PT

I’d say from my travels, pretty much every country outside the US, Canada, EU and AU/NZ is some degree of sh!thole.

Bethesda

Trad climber

Bethesda

Jan 16, 2018 - 07:13am PT

I grew up in California, was used to freeways maintained by CalTrans, then moved to New York and was horrified at both the design and the condition of thruways in NYC, including those in Queens, hometown of our president. I didn't understand how civilized people could stand to drive on such pavement. Given that the condition of the freeways is a hallmark of a civilization, I would say that Queens flunked. Since Donald moved out of Queens and never looked back, I would suspect that he would agree.

Reilly

Mountain climber

The Other Monrovia- CA

Jan 16, 2018 - 07:21am PT

I guess you haven’t been back to Cali in a while. Definitely third world roads and we don’t even have to deal with freeze/thaw for the most part. WTF? We don’t pay enough taxes? I must admit my perspective has been skewed driving in Europe.

zBrown

Ice climber

Jan 16, 2018 - 07:23am PT

I and I

I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters.

It’s true that Trump made the “shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue” remark widely attributed to him across standard and social media sites. However, the (somewhat clumsy and crass) comment also generally appeared absent of its broader context, which pertained to the loyalty of his followers, and not an actual desire, intent, or interest in shooting any individuals for the sole reason that he believed it would have no effect on his popularity.

Their remedy for this situation has been the creation of a modified vocabulary and dialect, reflecting a desire to take language forward and to confront what they see as the confusion of a corrupt and decadent society they call Babylon

Ed Hartouni

Trad climber

Livermore, CA

Jan 16, 2018 - 07:50am PT

"Despite POTUS allegedly saying mean words about Haiti..."

OK, let's ignore this completely, it really has absolutely no consequence, give the guy a pass (just like he's gotten his entire life) so we can all chant his slogan, MAGA.

I guess one way to do that is to just show that everyplace else is a "shithole" and deny there are any problems in the great old USA that can't be fixed by excluding those other people.

WBraun

climber

Jan 16, 2018 - 08:03am PT

It's all in the eye of the observer.

Since we are all defective we all will see defects.

The intelligent class transcends such imperfections.

We are the imperfect class and can not imitate such advancement.

Thus we must always keep our vision focused on the intelligent class ......

Winemaker

Sport climber

Yakima, WA

Topic Author's Reply - Jan 16, 2018 - 08:20am PT

He hath disgraced me and hindered me half a million, laughed at my losses, mocked at my gains, scorned my nation, thwarted my bargains, cooled my friends, heated mine enemies—and what’s his reason? I am a Jew. Hath not a Jew eyes? Hath not a Jew hands, organs, dimensions, senses, affections, passions? Fed with the same food, hurt with the same weapons, subject to the same diseases, healed by the same means, warmed and cooled by the same winter and summer as a Christian is? If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge? If we are like you in the rest, we will resemble you in that. If a Jew wrong a Christian, what is his humility? Revenge. If a Christian wrong a Jew, what should his sufferance be by Christian example? Why, revenge. The villainy you teach me I will execute—and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction.

mooch

Trad climber

Tribal Base Camp (Riverkern Annex)

Jan 16, 2018 - 09:11am PT

Ken M

Mountain climber

Los Angeles, Ca

Jan 16, 2018 - 10:29am PT

"If someone, even a friend, uses an ugly word referring to another's race or religion, let's make it clear we won't put up with it... There is no place for them in a democratic and free America."