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Lituya
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Dec 15, 2017 - 01:44pm PT
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Gary, you are correct. I misspoke and should have said “income.” As far as living standards, well, not worth much eg GINI garbage in garbage out. I’ll take personal liberty and economic freedom over security.
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Dec 15, 2017 - 01:52pm PT
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Sean Hannity's troll farm is on point today!
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Dec 15, 2017 - 04:47pm PT
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Where's Venezuela? That new puppy you lefties were singing about back ten-fifteen years?
Besides, WTF does liberty have to do with your tiny little graph?
EDIT: Serious question for Gary: are you a communist? Not a fan, but far more respect for leftists than for your average western liberal. The former has a framework and core--usually well-studied; the latter just kind of blows with the wind and squawks a lot.
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Dec 15, 2017 - 05:05pm PT
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Close your eyes and stamp your feet three times, HRC's email server was nothing criminal, nothing criminal, nothing criminal....
oh I have just a couple of minutes, so name the criminal statute, name HRC's crime
let's see, we have a Repub President pleading with his Repub Attorney General to charge HRC, but so many crimes to choose from, how can he possible choose which one?
last week Repub Attorney General Sessions said in the hearing he could not charge HRC
oh dear, there is a reason, but what is it anyway, how distressing, first Bengazi now this
can't wait until we get to False Equivalencies in comparisons, you up for that too, boo boo?
take it away, check back later
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WBraun
climber
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Dec 15, 2017 - 05:22pm PT
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Politards are all college educated.
University of St000pid Brainwashed tools.
They are still st000pid enough to believe all the horseh!t Putin Russian collusion in American elections.
If these st00pid brainwashed politard loons ever really found out the real truth they'd all be sh!ttin in their pants.
Dumbest group of idiots ever and deserve a fool like Trump to lead them off the cliff ....
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Dec 15, 2017 - 05:30pm PT
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Norton...Stop picking on Lietuya...He's doing the best with what god gave him...
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Dec 15, 2017 - 05:32pm PT
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^^Norton was responding to MadBolter, not me. As you were, little jonny.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Dec 15, 2017 - 07:03pm PT
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Dec 15, 2017 - 07:33pm PT
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Ryan will probably bail after the tax bill passes. He doesn't want to be at the helm win the cons get massacred in November.
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Dec 15, 2017 - 08:32pm PT
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Dec 15, 2017 - 08:56pm PT
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He doesn't want to be at the helm win the cons get massacred in November.
If the dems wrest control of congress, I wouldn't be surprised if trump quits. He has to be in control, and if he isn't he takes his ball and goes home.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Dec 15, 2017 - 09:02pm PT
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Trump can't quit as long as putin keeps him feeding him corn...
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lostinshanghai
Social climber
someplace
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Dec 16, 2017 - 02:47am PT
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Nov 4, 2016 - 10:01pm PT Updated: 16 Dec 17 from Dr. Francis and Mrs J. Harvey personal access systems
Day 1
Who was behind inciting screaming mobs in Madison Square Garden and in front of the White House?
Day 2
Secret meetings in the back alleys of Washington. Evangelicals, hawkish neocons.
Day 3
Assassination, kidnappings, blackmail, threats, instigate, sabotage, harass. violating the Hatch Act, disinformation, Senator missing or snatched.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/kellyanne-conway-violated-the-hatch-act-will-she-be-charged/2017/11/27/361f2170-d3bb-11e7-a986-d0a9770d9a3e_story.html?utm_term=.e43fe4bdd0bb,
Kellyanne Conway violated the Hatch Act. Will she be charged?,
By Walter Shaub November 27
Walter Shaub is a senior director at the Campaign Legal Center. He previously served as director of the Office of Government Ethics.
The special counsel is facing the biggest test of his career. I’m referring not to Robert S.Mueller III but to Henry Kerner of the Office of Special Counsel (OSC), the small agency that investigates Hatch Act violations. That law prohibits executive branch employees from using their government positions to influence elections, which is precisely what presidential counselor Kellyanne Conway did last week. Whether Kerner will enforce the law is another matter.
When Conway appeared on “Fox and Friends” last Monday, it was clear she was doing so in an official capacity: One of the show’s hosts introduced her by her title and she articulated the administration’s views as she stood in front of the White House. In discussing whether the president has enough votes to get a tax bill through the Senate, Conway (without prompting) attacked Doug Jones, the Democratic candidate for Senate in Alabama. “And Doug Jones in Alabama?” she said, “Folks, don’t be fooled.
He’ll be a vote against tax cuts. He’s weak on crime, weak on borders. He’s strong on raising your taxes. He’s terrible for property owners.”
Conway’s intent was clear enough already, but she decided to make it clearer. “I’m telling you that we want the votes in the Senate to get this tax bill through,” she admitted. Playing down the sexual misconduct allegations against Jones’s Republican opponent Roy Moore, Conway added, “If the media were really concerned about all these allegations and that was what this was truly about with the Democrats, Al Franken would be on the ash heap of bygone, half-funny comedians.” After a startled “Fox and Friends” host pointed out that even the Republican National Committee had withdrawn support for Moore, Conway doubled down on her advocacy against Jones. “Nobody ever says his name, and they pretend he’s some kind of conservative Democrat, and he’s not,” she said.
Based on this obvious violation of the Hatch Act, the Campaign Legal Center (where I am a senior director) filed a complaint against Conway with the OSC. The White House has offered typical misdirection in response, asserting that Conway was innocently championing the president’s agenda. The question is not whether Conway was championing the agenda of the president — who, it’s worth noting, actively supports Moore — but whether she was advocating against Jones. Only in a world of alternative facts could Conway’s televised words amount to anything other than advocacy against Jones
In short, the case against Conway is airtight. Or it would be, that is, if President Trump hadn’t appointed Kerner to lead the OSC.
Kerner comes from a conservative group called the Cause of Action Institute. When I served as director of the Office of Government Ethics (OGE), Cause of Action was the only organization that wrote to me in defense of Conway after she told Americans to “go buy Ivanka’s stuff.” The group claimed Conway was exempt from OGE’s ethics regulations and that OGE lacked authority to oversee the White House’s ethics program, despite four decades of White House compliance with OGE oversight and an example in OGE’s White House-approved regulations expressly highlighting their applicability to White House staff.
Kerner and his group also went after potential whistleblowers at the Environmental Protection Agency. Shortly after the incoming administration demanded that the Energy Department turn over lists of employees who had worked on climate change issues, a small group of EPA employees understandably feared for their jobs and used encrypted texts to forge networks for potential whistleblowing. Cause of Action sued the EPA for release of the texts, which would have revealed the names of the would-be whistleblowers to the Trump White House and its allies. That action alone should have disqualified Kerner from consideration for a position that makes him the federal government’s top guardian of whistleblowers.
But Kerner got the job anyway, and the Conway incident now presents him with as clear a violation of the Hatch Act as he’s likely to encounter during his five-year term. The trouble for Kerner is that Conway is close to his new boss, who notably sided with her the last time she violated ethics rules. Kerner criticized the last administration for its Hatch Act issues, saying that, “The law is clear: public officials paid by taxpayers cannot use their position to engage in political activities,” and “the Obama administration’s unprecedented history of Hatch Act violations threatens to undermine this important protection.” If Kerner plans to hold Trump’s administration to the same standard, he’ll have to issue a clear finding that Conway violated the Hatch Act. To do so, he’ll have to sign a letter asking Trump to take action against Conway. Kerner will have broad discretion in recommending a penalty because consequences for violating the Hatch Act range from a letter of reprimand to a civil penalty of up to $1,000 to suspension, termination or even debarment from federal employment for up to five years.
What happens to Conway will send an unmistakable message to the rest of the federal workforce about this administration’s commitment to enforcing the Hatch Act. Kerner asked for this thankless job, and he’s taken an oath to enforce the Hatch Act. His willingness to pursue this slam-dunk case will tell us whether he has any intention of fulfilling that oath. If he does seek to hold Conway accountable, his penalty recommendation will tell us how vigorously he intends to go about fulfilling that oath. We should all watch what Kerner does next.
One of Trump’s most persistent ethics critics just resigned
Day 5
A stupid, impressionable female being blacklisted for her past. Not her fault.
Day 6
Secret Air Force base in Texas, sugar daddies, sugar babies, hidden agendas.
“Make America number one again”
Moore’s Election over, might look like the end of the witch, Bannon and Pence but would not count on it yet. Maybe by Valentines Massacre. Trump will be gone for sure. Even if they are gone has nothing to do with them anyway. The Rightwing party that had the monies that got in will still try to stay in control till Americans wake up. I doubt that will happen soon either and is all ready too late. Welcome to the new Amerika.
“Before you can make a man do as you say, you must make him believe what you say.” He first must know the truth or does he. Is it a lie, something made up or just made to look right or wrong. In the end, I guess it doesn’t really matter anymore.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Dec 16, 2017 - 06:50am PT
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They should wait until after the mid-terms to impeach the idiot-in-chief. Pence is as guilty as the rest of those as#@&%es. Dems pick up a minimum of 70 seats come November.
Ms. Pelosi will be a great president for two years.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Dec 16, 2017 - 12:24pm PT
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how could you be pardoned if you havnt been convicted?
Nixon was pardoned, and he had been convicted of no crime.
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jogill
climber
Colorado
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Dec 16, 2017 - 12:26pm PT
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Ms. Pelosi will be a great president for two years
Priceless.
Too old? But she can just go slow, reading legislation after she signs it.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Dec 16, 2017 - 12:28pm PT
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A year into this so-called investigation and nada re collusion. Let’s see some facts—or shut er down.
At this point in the Watergate investigation, there was nothing connecting the President to the break-in, there were no guilty pleas or indictments. Watergate took about 2 years to the resignation of Nixon.
This stuff does not happen fast.
And one should be careful, calling for shutting down an active, productive investigation could be obstruction of justice.
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