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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Aug 31, 2017 - 05:41am PT
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Considering he could annihilate material life on Earth with the push of a button, is it unreasonable to keep track of what he's up to?
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gruzzy
Social climber
socal
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 31, 2017 - 11:37am PT
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Yeah, gotta keep tabs on the guy. Some of us havent had our share of decade after decade( after decade after decade) on earth yet. Easy to become complacent when youre way deep into your
twilight years.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Aug 31, 2017 - 01:28pm PT
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White Privilege is the fact that being white grants you enormous advantages in this society.
Fortunately, more and more people of all races in the USA are coming to recognize the lie that this is. The tide has swung against such steaming BS, and that tide is rising.
White GUILT is what's no longer a thing, except among the falling numbers of hand-wringing liberals. You've lost the middle, yet in your echo chamber you still think you've got the majority. You don't.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/163655/reject-considering-race-college-admissions.aspx
Literally a super-majority are so over it.
Wake up.
Oh, wait, you can't.
Okay, back to your regularly-scheduled echo-chamber.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Aug 31, 2017 - 01:39pm PT
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There are many more of them and even though I know that they can't help themselves, they piss me off all the same.
Perfect summation of how I feel about the left-wing. So steeped in the CNN Kook-Aid, they really can't help themselves. When op-ed pieces stand in for news and are considered to BE news, we truly are doomed as a nation.
I know of NO (left or right) "news" organizations that do actual news anymore. ALL "news" is thinly-veiled op-ed, slanted according to political agenda.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Aug 31, 2017 - 01:47pm PT
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Civil Rights are not subject to the whims of a majority that seek to maintain their own privilege.
Literally, I LOL.
Good luck. You see, actually, a super-majority HAS the power to define "civil rights."
Hopefully, soon we'll see a movement afoot for a constitutional amendment that will explicitly remove racial preference from ALL societal metrics. Then, truly, systematic racism (of ALL forms, including minority preference) will be rendered flatly illegal at the federal level.
Then, liberals will have truly achieved what they CLAIM to want: A non-"racial" society.
Oh, wait. Liberals actually DON'T want that, do they? Libs ACTUALLY WANT systematic racism! They just want to be in arbitrary control over the NATURE of that racism.
Again, good luck. The tide now FIRMLY OPPOSES racism in ALL its variants, and we're on the brink of a strong enough majority to make racism constitutionally disallowed in ALL its forms.
Then, "civil rights" will actually mean what it was always intended to mean: Genuine, race-blind equality for ALL.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Aug 31, 2017 - 02:27pm PT
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Fortunately, more and more people of all races in the USA are coming to recognize the lie that this is
Since you are not a liar, you must be delusional. There's no way that you can believe that there's no advantage to being white in this country. You can only be trolling.
Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Aug 31, 2017 - 02:40pm PT
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Since you are not a liar, you must be delusional.
I am neither, sir.
It is the left that literally can produce no evidence of systematic racism in this nation today. Decades ago, perhaps. But it's been decades since that was the case.
It's time to genuinely and completely become color-blind as a nation. But that can never happen while the left continually race-baits and insists on institutionalizing the very thing it claims to decry: Systematic racism.
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Norton
Social climber
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Aug 31, 2017 - 02:52pm PT
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Aug 31, 2017 - 02:57pm PT
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It is the left that literally can produce no evidence of systematic racism in this nation today.
Now I know you're trolling. Good day.
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Aug 31, 2017 - 03:44pm PT
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MB1 said
I know of NO (left or right) "news" organizations that do actual news anymore. ALL "news" is thinly-veiled op-ed, slanted according to political agenda.
PBS Newshour. Try it sometime.
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Bushman
climber
The state of quantum flux
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Aug 31, 2017 - 04:04pm PT
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It is the left that literally can produce no evidence of systematic racism in this nation today.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CeCK9BvZCc8
The racism that normally goes on every day in America behind closed doors, being exposed and aired nationally. Common, but eye-opening and disgraceful.
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Aug 31, 2017 - 04:12pm PT
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There was a great article in the NY Times a while back about how, as a whole, college-educated whites in America are greatly unaware of their privilege, unlike the British (it was written by a Brit), whose upper and upper-middle class acknowledge their good fortune at being born as they were. Americans who achieve a certain status are much more likely to see it as the fruits of their own labor and awesomeness instead of the fact that their own dads' were relatively rich, successful people who could afford to put them through college or at least significantly help and now they are able (more than likely) to do the same for their kids.
And that's just the tip of the iceberg. Sheesh, you people who think that it's fine to just start at ground zero, as if we all are starting with the same Monopoly money, are more than delusional -- you're mean-spirited as well.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Aug 31, 2017 - 04:20pm PT
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systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE)
Not SLA bitches
May just make some folks mad, it could be eating Trump alive.
His own immune system has had enough.
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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Aug 31, 2017 - 05:30pm PT
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He's really putting on weight. Maybe he should give this a try.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Aug 31, 2017 - 07:13pm PT
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Then, "civil rights" will actually mean what it was always intended to mean: Genuine, race-blind equality for ALL.
And you will be quaking in your boots. No longer will police departments be made up of only whites, while only 50% of the population. Same for fire departments. No gerrymandering districts to disadvantage minorities.
This is the same lie as "repealing" the ACA 56 times, knowing that it will be vetoed. Cowardice.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Aug 31, 2017 - 08:02pm PT
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" If your famous you can grab em by the Lamyong and do whatever you want..."
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drF
Trad climber
usa
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Aug 31, 2017 - 08:09pm PT
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Uh oh...Ken M'eds' are kicking in.
Cherry picks everything wrong to prop his bizzaro world concepts.
A dr. really?
No wonder I never trusted those quacks.
No disrespect to ducks ;')
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nah000
climber
now/here
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Aug 31, 2017 - 08:32pm PT
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mb1 wrote: It is the left that literally can produce no evidence of systematic racism in this nation today.
you doing alright? a quick google brought up this "little" aggregation of 101 statistics which attempt to provide evidence that "systemic" racism is alive and well. [or is your use of "systematic" an intentional philosophical quibble to get around the idea of "systemic"?]
while i don't have the time to go through every single stat, [and even without looking through every one i can guarantee that there are a few that suffer from methodology/interpretation/etc flaws]... i can also guarantee via quick perusal that the majority are not bunk either.
here are a few gems that i'm sure will help bolster your contention that "being white granting a person enormous advantages in this society", is a lie:
 In the late 1990s, black and white women had similar levels of drug use during pregnancy, but black women were 10 times as likely as white women to be reported to child services for prenatal drug use.
Black kids are 10 times more likely to be arrested for drug crimes than white kids — even though white kids are more likely to abuse drugs
and in case you don't like words here are a couple pertinent graphs:
and that's only a portion of the "war on drugs" section. there are also, often larger, sections titled "police", "prison", "criminal justice", "education", "employment", "wealth", "workplace", "voting", "media" and "housing"... but i'll let your open and truth seeking mind peruse those on your own.
i'm assuming your position is that because there are no explicit written policies anymore that "systemic" [not systematic] racism is a thing of the past? i am still astounded that you use your personal example of having a girlfriend of color who possibly gained more systemic advantage than you did, as some evidence of the situation as a whole.
that's the kind of bunk thinking i'd expect out of the simpletons out there. you should be better than that kind of crap.
do i really have to state the obvious: just because there are exceptions to a rule or statistic, doesn't mean there isn't a generalized rule or statistic...
finally, for a former philosophy professor to cite a study showing 75% of white folk believing that affirmative action regarding college admissions should be a thing of the past, as somehow being evidence for what "truth" is, is astounding at best and disturbing at worst.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Aug 31, 2017 - 10:04pm PT
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There was a great article in the NY Times a while back about how, as a whole, college-educated whites in America are greatly unaware of their privilege, unlike the British (it was written by a Brit), whose upper and upper-middle class acknowledge their good fortune at being born as they were. Americans who achieve a certain status are much more likely to see it as the fruits of their own labor and awesomeness instead of the fact that their own dads' were relatively rich, successful people who could afford to put them through college or at least significantly help and now they are able (more than likely) to do the same for their kids.
And if you were so called "privileged" wouldn't you want your kids to grow up in that motivation? Just like the founders, I believe all(most) of the upper class has has worked hard over generations, mostly to allow more than what they had, for their children. Isn't that what EVERYONE should strive for?
So tell me how it is equal for some teenage boarderhopper to demand the same rights as a sixth generational US teenager???
Don't hate privage,,, should it not be what we strive for our children?
Sad in our society today, the people hell bent on bringing equality are titled haters!
Democrat's are neither!!!!!!
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Aug 31, 2017 - 10:34pm PT
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that is totally different than using systemic and structural advantages to keep it that way.
Hey, so you think every alien should be handed a Harvard diploma? Ha. Maybe a couple because their phenomenal? But otherwise they need to start at the gates. Just like a Salmon, if there weren't any hurdles to jump, they prolly wouldn't try hard and therefor only reproduce more soft Democrat's.
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