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Norton
Social climber
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Jul 11, 2016 - 10:12am PT
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I also direct that the flag shall be flown at half-staff for the same length of time at all United States embassies, legations, consular offices, and other facilities abroad, including all military facilities and naval vessels and stations. IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this eighth day of July, in the year of our Lord two thousand sixteen, and of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and forty-first.
BARACK OBAMA
someone now got a problem with the President's order?
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Jul 11, 2016 - 10:24am PT
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Gary
Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
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Jul 11, 2016 - 12:59pm PT
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I hope the scary black woman didn't hurt the officers.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Jul 11, 2016 - 01:08pm PT
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someone now got a problem with the President's order?
Not here. Why would someone object?
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Gary
Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
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Jul 11, 2016 - 01:37pm PT
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The tree of liberty is sure feeling refreshed lately. The NRA must be as pleased as punch.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/multiple-people-shot-berrien-county-mich-courthouse-authorities-say-n607376
Two court bailiffs were killed Monday afternoon when gunfire rang out at a southwestern Michigan courthouse, authorities said. The gunman was later killed, as well.
Berrien County Sheriff Paul Bailey said the confrontation took place about 2:25 p.m. ET at at the county courthouse in St. Joseph. Several other people, including a sheriff's deputy, were injured.
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Alexey
climber
San Jose, CA
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Jul 11, 2016 - 02:09pm PT
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Marlow, I was about to post same photo as you did about Luisiana women arrest.
This photo is very much telling ...
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Jul 11, 2016 - 02:17pm PT
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This photo is very much telling ...
Please elaborate?
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Jul 11, 2016 - 02:32pm PT
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Don't worry, Gary wouldn't know liberty if it walked up and slapped him.
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Gary
Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
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Jul 11, 2016 - 02:53pm PT
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Why you two should be quite pleased! The proliferation of weapons you so much adore is having the desired effect. No?
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Jul 11, 2016 - 03:12pm PT
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Actually, I'm confused.
The gun advocates tell us that if more people were armed, they'd be safer, we'd all be safer.....
But in Dallas and Michigan, the people killed WERE ALL ARMED.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Jul 11, 2016 - 03:16pm PT
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Actually, I'm confused.
That is correct.
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Jul 11, 2016 - 03:24pm PT
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Ken M, what percentage of Americans die in hospitals?
What percentage of their lives do most people spend in hospitals?
Danger rate is off the charts, gotta outlaw those things.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Jul 11, 2016 - 03:52pm PT
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Certainly, in a city like Dallas, in the middle of Texas, there must have been some in the crowd that were carrying. Advocates tell you that such people will prevent, and take care of things that come up.
Where were they, and why didn't they "take care of business????"
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Jul 11, 2016 - 03:52pm PT
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The gun advocates tell us that if more people were armed, they'd be safer, we'd all be safer.....
But in Dallas and Michigan, the people killed WERE ALL ARMED.
That was my observation in an earlier post
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johnboy
Trad climber
Can't get here from there
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Jul 11, 2016 - 03:59pm PT
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What percentage of their lives do most people spend in hospitals?
Danger rate is off the charts, gotta outlaw those things.
Comparing apples to aardvarks again.
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jonnyrig
climber
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Jul 11, 2016 - 04:00pm PT
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Where were they, and why didn't they "take care of business????"
... because the cops were already there to save them.
Had a CCW permittee actually tried to do anything at all in that situation, they likely would have been taken out by the police, given the situation, after which the rest of you would point and scream "died because of his gun" kinda like you did with Castile.
...the people killed WERE ALL ARMED Ooh... snarky. 1/10.
“medical errors” in hospitals and other health-care facilities are incredibly common and may now be the third-leading cause of death in the United States — claiming 251,000 lives every year, more than respiratory disease, accidents, stroke and Alzheimer’s.
I like the chart too. Lots of other things you can do to increase your lifespan, besides melting down your gun.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2016/05/03/researchers-medical-errors-now-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-united-states/
Say... isn't Ken M. a doc? Dude, if we go by the numbers, it would seem (on average) you're more dangerous than my hunting rifle.
250,000 medical error deaths
13,000 firearm homicides
not including
20,000 firearm suicides
http://www.thetrace.org/2015/12/gun-violence-stats-2015/
7.8 million health care practitioners and technical workers in the US,
vs
75 million firearm owners in the US, give or take
http://dpeaflcio.org/professionals/professionals-in-the-workplace/healthcare-professionals-and-technicians/
You know, if you like numbers. Maybe we should invest more in the education of health care professionals. Just sayin...
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Jul 11, 2016 - 04:29pm PT
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American actor, and outspoken common-sense conservative, James Woods, speaks on Twitter. And I replied;
Steve Retweeted James Woods
She should be invited to speak at the White House, on how cops SAVED HER AND HER KIDS. Cops save blacks lives too!!!
Steve added,
James Woods @RealJamesWoods
Texas mom shot while protecting sons thanks police via the @FoxNews App. Good for her. #DallasPoliceShooting http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/07/10/texas-mom-shot-while-protecting-sons-thanks-police.html …
He makes a good point, but mine was even better. That BLACK WOMAN should have been asked to speak at the White House, thanking the police for risking their lives to SAVE THE BLACK LIVES OF THE MOM AND HER BOYS, who were at a protest against cops and black violence.
A real leader would have done this.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Jul 11, 2016 - 05:24pm PT
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No amount of restrictive gun laws would have stopped the bad guy. Jody, offer proof of your claim, please, or is that just another one your insightful opinions?
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Norton
Social climber
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Jul 11, 2016 - 05:46pm PT
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well personal bias and opinion aside, the studies done on gun laws and gun deaths DO show correlations
Do Strict Firearm Laws Give States Lower Gun Death Rates?
According to a recent National Journal analysis of data from 2013, "the states that impose the most restrictions on gun users also have the lowest rates of gun-related deaths, while states with fewer regulations typically have a much higher death rate from guns."
According to National Journal, the six states with the lowest rates of gun-related deaths in 2013, ranging from 2.6 to 5.7 per 100,000, were Hawaii, Massachusetts, New York, Connecticut, Rhode Island, and New Jersey, which do indeed have relatively strict gun policies as measured by requirements for buying and carrying handguns
At the other end of the list, Alaska, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas, and Wyoming have both permissive gun policies and high gun death rates, ranging from around 17 to nearly 20 per 100,000
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Jul 11, 2016 - 06:03pm PT
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Do Strict Firearm Laws Give States Lower Gun Death Rates?
According to a recent National Journal analysis of data from 2013, "the states that impose the most restrictions on gun users also have the lowest rates of gun-related deaths, while states with fewer regulations typically have a much higher death rate from guns."
According to National Journal, the six states with the lowest rates of gun-related deaths in 2013, ranging from 2.6 to 5.7 per 100,000, were Hawaii, Massachusetts, New York, Connecticut, Rhode Island, and New Jersey, which do indeed have relatively strict gun policies as measured by requirements for buying and carrying handguns
At the other end of the list, Alaska, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas, and Wyoming have both permissive gun policies and high gun death rates, ranging from around 17 to nearly 20 per 100,000
Many problems with your figures, as I'm sure you're aware. But since you're a hack lobbyist for the Democrats I'd expect this.
Please stop being disingenuous. If you went by your party line of "trying to find solutions", you'd be having an honest look at all factors of these crimes.
And you'd stop pushing the gun crap that you know will do nothing to solve our current "problem".
Wanna talk about why nobody gives a f*#k about dead black kids in Chicago everday???? Wanna talk about why it only gets worse in a Dem controlled town???
Shouldn't your policies be working? What is Chicago's gun policy again? Care to remind everybody?
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