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BLUEBLOCR
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joshua tree
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Good link MikeL
Boy, you turn your back for a minute and society comes up gems like this;
“Abortion rights and reproductive justice is not a women’s issue,” wrote Emmett Stoffer, one of many self-described transgender persons to blog on the topic. It is “a uterus owner’s issue.” Mr. Stoffer was referring to the possibility that a woman who is taking hormones or undergoing surgery to become a man, or who does not identify as a woman, can still have a uterus, become pregnant and need an abortion.
Accordingly, abortion rights groups are under pressure to modify their mission statements to omit the word woman, as Katha Pollitt recently reported in The Nation. Those who have given in, like the New York Abortion Access Fund, now offer their services to “people” and to “callers.” Fund Texas Women, which covers the travel and hotel expenses of abortion seekers with no nearby clinic, recently changed its name to Fund Texas Choice. “With a name like Fund Texas Women, we were publicly excluding trans people who needed to get an abortion but were not women,” the group explains on its website.
the power of one scream from the wilderness?
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Same link,
The landscape that’s being mapped and the language that comes with it are impossible to understand and just as hard to navigate. The most theory-bound of the trans activists say that there are no paradoxes here, and that anyone who believes there are is clinging to a binary view of gender that’s hopelessly antiquated. Yet Ms. Jenner and Ms. Manning, to mention just two, expect to be called women even as the abortion providers are being told that using that term is discriminatory. So are those who have transitioned from men the only “legitimate” women left?
Bruce Jenner told Ms. Sawyer that what he looked forward to most in his transition was the chance to wear nail polish, not for a furtive, fugitive instant, but until it chips off. I want that for Bruce, now Caitlyn, too. But I also want her to remember: Nail polish does not a woman make.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Another profit in the desert presuming to define others. A story as old as religion, sadly...
There is no new definitions for others. Just new spellings trying to confuse the same old meanings, and yea sadly,,, they been around as long as religion.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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This whole "shebang" is reminiscent.
Reality song break.
William Hung, unsung, hung in there.
Look where it took him.
"Bruce," on the other hand...too many Wheaties?
[Click to View YouTube Video]Americans' taste is all in their mouths.
"Tastes like...kittie litter! I give it a five!"
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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The “I was born in the wrong body” rhetoric favored by other trans people doesn’t work any better and is just as offensive, reducing us to our collective breasts and vaginas. Imagine the reaction if a young white man suddenly declared that he was trapped in the wrong body and, after using chemicals to change his skin pigmentation and crocheting his hair into twists, expected to be embraced by the black community.
Tricky thing, that.
JL
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Largo, I'm assuming you must have read John Howard Griffin's book "Black Like Me?"
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Was wondering the same.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Would you say the same about the "transabled" Canadian?
One whacks off one offending appendage and the immediate reaction is that's so batshit crazy that it must be a fake story.
Bruce want's to have a different appendage whacked off and he's a tabloid hero, (or is that heroine, or is there a gender neutral designation?)
Both of them need therapy and deserve sympathy, not lionization.
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crankster
Trad climber
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TGT, it must be sad to watch your old, tired, intolerant moral sense of superiority going the way of the wagon wheel. Someday soon, it will be dead and gone.
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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. . . and?????
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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LOCKER!!!!
You're still ALIVE!!!!!
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujň de la Playa y Perrito Ruby
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i read it (twice)
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rockermike
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Jun 7, 2015 - 06:17pm PT Why do so many people give a f*#k about what another human does in order to walk the planet?
I don't give a f*#k in itself. If done well and done discretely no one would know. But she put herself on the cover of Vanity Fair and every news org in the country is suddenly screaming she is a hero. And you think there will be no feed back?
I haven't read all of the thread above but from glancing thru it seems the biggest and most vehement bigots are the Christian hating 'you must accept this cultural turn around' liberal fascists ( no that is not always a contradiction in terms) who insist on telling the world what opinion to hold on such topics. Can't we all just get along.? :)
And no I'm not a Christian nor am I defending a literal reading of the old testament. ... but bigotry comes in many colors.
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MikeL
Social climber
Seattle, WA
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bvb: Largo, I'm assuming you must have read John Howard Griffin's book "Black Like Me?"
A very important book for people who had courage. Powerful. It’s not that the guy mixed in with blacks but that he learned black consciousness. Really, that’s amazing. It’s a remarkable experience of transformation that one can become another. Perhaps these comments are in the wrong thread.
Crankster: . . . it must be sad to watch your old, tired, intolerant moral sense of superiority going the way of the wagon wheel.
. . . which by the way, was an immensely productive tool. Everything but everything adds value. Everything offers a view.
Rockermike: . . . If done well and done discretely . . . .
:-) Sure, but that’s a high standard. Anything done gloriously or beautifully can hardly be denied.
I’ve come to know some trannys in a past lifetime, and they have all been good people, but in my business I came to see them as users of other people. But then I was among a society of users.
At the end of the day, we’re all just people. Fully.
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Reeotch
climber
4 Corners Area
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So, are you fully on board with the whole transhumanist thing, DMT?
Jim Brennan, I do think that having your male equipment removed is, by definition, disabling yourself. You will no longer be able to perform certain bodily functions.
And, the outcomes of these types of procedures are dubious:
[quote]Thirty-five years ago, in 1979, uncertainty about gender change success was surfacing. At Johns Hopkins Hospital concerns about the reported success rates of changing genders and whether Dr. Money had been falsifying the reports of sex change success prompted a review. Dr. Paul Mc Hugh commissioned Dr. Meyer to study post-operative transsexuals from the Johns Hopkins Gender Identity Clinic program. Dr. Meyer's results were far different than Money’s reports of success a decade earlier and also validated the concerns regarding Dr. Money and his reports. Dr. Meyer said, “To say that this type of surgery cures psychiatric disturbance is incorrect.” As a result of studying the results of Hopkins patients, Hopkins closed its gender clinic and university-based gender clinics around the country began to close. http://www.baltimorestyle.com/index.php/style/features_article/fe_sexchange_jf07[/quote]
http://waltheyer.typepad.com/blog/2013/11/20-regret-changing-genders-over-40attempt-suicide-and-even-after-surgery-a-large-number-remain-traum.html
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Reeotch
climber
4 Corners Area
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". . . this side of the fall . . . " LOL!
My feeling: Its not nice to fool Mother Nature . . . .
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Uh-oh
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