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TGT
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So Cal
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And one his limb transpierced, and one lopped off, should show, it would be nothing to compare with the disgusting mode of the ninth Bolgia. A cask by losing centre-piece or cant was never shattered so, as I saw one rent from the chin to where one breaketh wind. Between his legs were hanging down his entrails; his heart was visible, and the dismal sack that maketh excrement of what is eaten. While I was all absorbed in seeing him, he looked at me, and opened with his hands his bosom, saying: "See now how I rend me; How mutilated, see, is Mahomet; in front of me doth Ali weeping go, cleft in the face from forelock unto chin; and all the others whom thou here beholdest, disseminators of scandal and of schism while living were, and therefore are cleft thus
Dante Alighieri
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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ISIS has not yet acknowledged the events in France. However, they are full of themselves for another victory. Now this, this is Islam. Sunni vs Shia.
5 suicide bombers. Price of Jihad, is going up
//Praise be to Allah and peace and blessings be upon the Messenger of God and his family and companions and allies and after:
Has enabled God strong solid slaves Mujahideen victory shown on hate Shiites who pay a heavy bill of long account that awaits them and their masters with the permission of Allah the One.
Has Mujahideen launched a massive attack and several axes and arms and light, medium and heavy mortar rounds and missiles against the headquarters of the Safavid government, security centers, military barracks and roadblocks and checkpoints the army Safavid, and militia muster rejectionist near the area (Ahoiesh) west of the city of Samarra, and violent clashes took place and hours of continuous Dearest God, the Islamic State soldiers, and humiliated the devil grandchildren son Alqami Raafidis Elsafoan soldiers, and clashes resulted in the killing and wounding dozens of soldiers, and control over their positions and security headquarters, and the destruction of most of them and most of the barriers and checkpoints, and within blessed battle five martyrdom operations blessing
Where Scurry both (Abutalal Jazrawi and Abuhaidar Shami Abuhassan Shami and Bilal Turkestan and Nurallah Turkestan) to indulge in the barriers and barracks and the headquarters of the Army of the Safavid and militia rejectionist to Ateroa blood pure to view or believers Aisha (may Allah be pleased about), and crashed their heads and dismembered their bodies crash Hawwadzhm and headquarters, we ask God to accept Brothers martyrs in the highest paradise, was from God to worship the Mujahideen took control of the barracks and Alhawwadzaly the main road and the sheep of a large number of heavy, medium and light weapons and materiel.
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labrat
Trad climber
Auburn, CA
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"Of course the whackjob nutcase loons here (Cranknutcase Loon & HFCS) listen to some loon named Maher instead ....."
Please add me to your above list Werner B. It seems better than the "everything's a conspiracy" list you are on ;-()
Erik
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WBraun
climber
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I never mention any conspiracy.
Just see how easy you fools fall into the rabbit hole .....
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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A Long ago Loon?
Allah, perchance, the secret word might spell;
If Allah be, He keeps His secret well;
What He hath hidden, who shall hope to find?
Shall God His secret to a maggot tell?
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The Koran! well, come put me to the test—
Lovely old book in hideous error drest—
Believe me, I can quote the Koran too,
The unbeliever knows his Koran best.
And do you think that unto such as you,
A maggot-minded, starved, fanatic crew,
God gave the secret, and denied it me?—
Well, well, what matters it! believe that too
Omar Kayyam
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John M
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There is not such thing as free speech. There is a cost for everything that one says or does. The cost isn't black and white. It is subtle.
As for Werners conspiracty theories. I believe that he is more hinting about the spiritual battle that is ongoing on this planet. Not a battle between religious and non religious, or a battle between scientists and the religious, but a war between good and evil. And that war is even being waged inside the worlds major religions. Not that this or that religion is good or bad, but that most religions have been taken over by leaders who are corrupt within their soul. As the bible says, it is the blind leading the blind. There is power within religions just as there is power in politics, and that power attracts evil, exactly as it has within politics. I believe that Mohammed did not reach full enlightenment, and thus some of his teachings are corrupt. But the easiest way to gather people is to make things black and white. This teaching is 100 percent truth. That teaching is 100 percent false. And so the Catholic church has its infallible Pope. Islam has its infallible teacher Mohammed. Protestants have their infallible bible. Yet none of them are infallible or 100 percent true. And thats the rub. Religion isn't God. Its mans understanding of what God is. And mans understanding has been corrupted over the ages, even from the beginning, when the first battle started in heaven itself when Lucifer refused to follow God's plan.
Some things are black and white, but the truth is also often found in the gray areas.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Notice that the Obama Administration facilitated the overthrow of Mubarak, a US ally who maintained a peace with Israel, for rule in Egypt by the Muslim Brotherhood, who is allied with Al Qaeda and is the spiritual progenitor of AQ. The same Muslim Brotherhood that enthusiastically supported Hitler and the Final Solution, incidentally, and has never recanted those views. Ever.
Then, when MILLIONS of Egyptians took to the streets to overthrow the Muslim Brotherhood and Al-Sisi assumed power, the Obama Administration immediately turned its back on the Egyptian government. Military and fiscal aid slowed to a trickle or stopped altogether. Even though Al-Sisi re-established peace with Israel and is fighting the Islamists when and where it finds them.
Sorta makes you wonder which side ol’ Barack Hussein is on, dunnit?
One has to wonder two things. How long does Al-Sisi have to live before being murdered? And what part will the Obama Administration and by extension, the US Government play in that murder?
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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fairly impossible to have an intelligent discussion with someone who cant discern the difference between furgeson and paris, no?
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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OMG I didn't answer your question?
You'll live. >---(*<
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
extraordinaire
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.. the whole Muslim Islamic so called terrorism has been artificially created by western factions to destabilize regions and to keep the war machines supplied and operated. Everybody put on your waders and hip boots cuz the bullshit is getting real deep right now.
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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Jan 10, 2015 - 04:23am PT
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12 years ago I worked with several engineers from Egypt and Syria. They are good decent guys, but their religion has some problems, and has had problems for a long time before America existed.
Here is a summary of what a friend wrote.
Mohammed is recorded as dying, on or about, 632 AD.
Islam had its own agenda long before the Crusades. If peaceful -- what were Muslim armies doing in Europe 300 years before the Crusades? And hundred of years thereafter?
Seventy-seven years after Mohammed's death, in 711 AD -- some 300 years prior to the first Crusade -- it was Muslim military forces who crossed the Straits of Gibraltar from North Africa into Spain and in less than a decade crossed the Pyrenees.
In 732 AD , the Muslim forces under the command of Abd-er- rahman, were decisively defeated by Charles Martel and the Franks at the Battle of Poitiers [Tours].
800 years later in 1571 the fleet of the Ottoman Empire was defeated at the Battle of Lepanto by the fleet of the Holy League, a combined naval force of Catholic countries led by Don John of Austria and contained vessels from Venice, Spain, the Papal States, Genoa, Savoy, and Malta.
Nine hundred years later, in September 1683 AD -- Ottoman Empire Muslim armies led by the Turkish commander Grand Vizier Kara Mustapha were at the gates of Vienna.
They were defeated by a combination of Austrian, German, and Polish armies.
Islam was not spread by sandal shod mendicant mullahs preaching from the Koran but by mounted scimitar wielding jihadists. If peace was Mohammed's message -- a subtle proposition at best -- his adherents missed the point then and miss it now.
The "carrot" for Islamic societies to reform would be "peace". It is up to each family and the Mullah's who teach their children. How bad do they want peace?
Not sure there is much, one way or the other, that anyone in the West can do to help.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jan 10, 2015 - 08:36am PT
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They won't even be initially satisfied until they regain El Sospiro del Moro overlooking Granada.
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Jan 10, 2015 - 09:33am PT
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Americans giving a peace lecture? Really?
More weapons porn, please.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Jan 10, 2015 - 12:49pm PT
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terrorism is evolution 101
Most birds are terrorist
All the Cats in the kingdom foresure
Terrorism is the MOST primative trait in the success of a species.
Fruity is a terrorist of words with his terabite of cutnpaste
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WBraun
climber
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Jan 10, 2015 - 05:20pm PT
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0wned ^^^^^
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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
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Jan 11, 2015 - 01:13pm PT
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I haven't read this whole thread so I may be repeating someone here but 15 Jewish people in the supermarket in Paris had their lives spared buy a black Muslim from Mali who hid them in a basement cold storage.Now many French people are campaigning for him to be given French citizenship and the Order of the Legion of Honor, France's top civilian award.
Meanwhile, Lebanese writer Dyab Abou Jahjah tweeted: "I am not Charlie, I am Ahmed the dead cop. Charlie ridiculed my faith and culture and I died defending his right to do so. #Je suis Ahmed."
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