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Bushman
Social climber
The island of Tristan da Cunha
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Nov 20, 2014 - 04:38am PT
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'Save the Jewel in the Lotus'
Om mani padme hum,
If a woodchuck could chuck wood,
Om mani padme hum,
How much wood could a woodchuck chuck?
Om mani padme hum,
How much wood does a wood chuck chuck?
Om mani padme hum,
A peck of pickled wood he'd chuck,
Om mani padme hum,
Save the jewel in the lotus,
Om mani padme hum,
I have to scratch that itch on my,
Om mani padme hum,
If I fall here I'm gonna deck,
Om mani padme hum,
I'm gonna die so what the heck,
Om mani padme hum,
Peter Piper picked a peck,
Om mani padme hum,
A peck of pickles he did pick,
Om mani padme hum,
How many peppers did he pick?
Om mani padme hum,
A peck of pickled wood he'd pick,
Om mani padme hum,
In this human infestation,
Om mani padme hum,
It's easy to assume,
Om mani padme hum,
In every rapt manifestation,
Om mani padme hum,
I think I'm seeing god,
Om mani padme hum,
Fill in god name here,
Om mani padme hum,
Then drink another beer,
Om mani padme hum,
All my distinguished guests,
Om mani padme hum,
Your wish is my command,
Om mani padme hum,
Colonel Mustard used the knife,
Om mani padme hum,
And foiled my evil plan,
Om mani padme hum.
By mixing all my metaphors,
Om mani padme hum.
(Repeat seventy five million times then begin again).
-bushman
11/20/2014
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Bushman
Social climber
The island of Tristan da Cunha
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Nov 20, 2014 - 05:32am PT
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'The Hairy Knuckle Dragger'
To drag his knuckles was his dearth,
Where birds would fly he spied and could not go,
But from the ground he gathered earth,
And flung it high for all his worth,
And struck not fowl and then he wept,
The loneliness and sleepless nights did weary him where in the darkness demons crept,
Since she had left him long ago,
Where she had gone he did not know,
Sometimes he dragged her by the hair,
She drugged and smote and left him there,
In cups he'd loved her to be fair,
Now he could not remember her round curves her touch so soft and sweet,
The eyes of brown reproaching or approving him,
Her memory a fading gem,
He looked to sky and watched the moon,
It too would leave him all too soon,
But watched it as it hanging there was like her face her cheeks so fair and round,
But then he turned his back and walked away,
His knuckles dragging on the ground.
-bushman
11/20/2014
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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
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Nov 20, 2014 - 07:15am PT
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Bushman-
I like your last poem. It immediately made me think of the Crass Sexism in Route Names thread.
Of your first poem, you wouldn't have written that one if you had ever lived with Tibetan people and observed how it works in real life. It's really pleasant to walk along a path and hear people walk by chanting softly rather than engaging in their usual gossip and mindless chatter. It changes the whole social atmosphere which of course is one of the purposes.
My sister worked in a neonatal ward and one of the preemies had Canadian parents who were Tibetan Buddhists. The parents would chant to the child for an hour a day and during that time the nurses could objectively measure (each baby is hooked up to 11 different alarm systems) that the baby's heart rate slowed down and its breathing became much deeper and calmer.
What we see as stoicism and good humor among Sherpas and Tibetans is what they see as the positive effects of chanting mantras.
Nevertheless, they did have a hilarious time when I taught them Peter Piper. Sherpas and Tibetans in particular love puns and plays on words.
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Bushman
Social climber
The island of Tristan da Cunha
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Nov 20, 2014 - 08:51am PT
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Jan,
You're probably right. My crude attempt at poetic satire sometimes smacks of stooge grade humor or worse it can be sometimes downright insulting, besides that fact I'm rarely inside or outside my own head. Please forgive the insensitivity of my post.
Thank you for your compliment on the other.
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 20, 2014 - 09:27am PT
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It's really pleasant to walk along a path and hear people walk by chanting softly
rather than engaging in their usual gossip and mindless chatter.
Yes it infuses a very profound sublime atmosphere.
Those transcendental sound vibrations are above the three modes of material nature, which being, ignorance, passion and goodness.
They are in "Pure Goodness"
Modern gross materialist will never understand this with their gross physical senses.
Only the living entity itself the soul can understand the transcendental sound vibrations.
The mistake modern scientific gross materialists make is to try to understand the transcendental properties with only their gross physical coats (material Body).
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MikeL
Social climber
Seattle, WA
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Nov 20, 2014 - 09:28am PT
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Chanting “Peter Piper.” Hilarious, and wonderful. Thx, Jan!
We are far too sophisticated for our own good.
I’d say Werner is right about mind not being unconscious. But, what does “unconscious” point to or refer to? (Ha-ha.)
It would perhaps be better to view our experiences as Alice in Wonderland. All experiences are unexplainable. Explanations are illusions. There is only spontaneous “suchness,” “that-is-ness,” noumenon, Tathata—all the result of “the play,” vikalpa, discrimination. What is behind [sic] that is the pure infinite potentiality of empty spaciousness, absolute openness, absence, the a priori of a priori. :-) You guys keep laughing at the notion of “emptiness,” but so much of what is bandied about here is truly impossible, unintelligible, conceptually constructed, dualistic, full of striving effort, and filled with all sorts of values. It’s a kind of disease.
Just be well.
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jgill
Boulder climber
Colorado
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Nov 21, 2014 - 01:34pm PT
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All experiences are unexplainable (MikeL)
Difference in the cardinalities of the set of finite expressions in the English language and the set of possible experiences, perhaps.
Oh, you mean any experience is unexplainable!
;>)
Where's your colleague Largo? He can make these threads sizzle.
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Psilocyborg
climber
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Nov 21, 2014 - 05:00pm PT
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^^^the video mike L posted says f*#k science, f*#k religion, f*#k everyone. It is your experience. Build it.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
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Nov 21, 2014 - 06:25pm PT
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Bushman-
You misunderstood me. I liked your second poem and my thought was that it would be good to post it on the crass climbing name thread as a subtle hint to the guys over there. Come to think of it though, it's probably way too subtle for them anyway.
It was the first poem that I didn't much care for given my pleasant experiences with mantras which I feel sure are more than meaningless words.I can see your point though from the western point of view.
As for chanting Peter Piper as MikeL suggests, they could barely say it after much practice, let alone chant it. Hard to recite when you're laughing that much.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Nov 22, 2014 - 05:48pm PT
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What about a "science And Religion" thread?
Must they be opposed at all levels, as the title suggests? The new pope seems to value science...
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MH2
climber
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Nov 22, 2014 - 06:05pm PT
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From he who began the thread:
it was supposed to be Religion AND Science thread
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cintune
climber
The Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
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Nov 22, 2014 - 06:30pm PT
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The original intent of the original thread actually got very little traction, viz: fundie-influenced government mandating despite science.
Instead it just brought out proponents of the two mindsets, and then got further hijacked by the whole "mind" thing.
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jgill
Boulder climber
Colorado
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Nov 22, 2014 - 08:53pm PT
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When the topic of discussion is the title of the topic of discussion then woe be the thread.
I also believe that everything I say has at least three different meanings. That makes me a philosopher.
Speaking of which a professor in the philosophy department at CU Boulder is being awarded $180,000 to leave the campus after nationwide publicity of unsavory behavior in that academic entity. Oh, the humanity . . .
;>\
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Bushman
Social climber
The island of Tristan da Cunha
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Nov 23, 2014 - 06:22am PT
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'The Failure of the Species'
The species Homo Sapiens flourished on the land,
Every conquest and discovery foretold a bright new future for these engineering denizens with their brains and able hands,
Who built towers, roads, and bridges and who harnessed raging waters with monumental dams,
And with science, math, and industry built all manner of vessels to navigate the waters and the sky and the land,
They built their sprawling cities and they powered up their world with the power from their furnaces to supply all of their gadgetry at the peak of their demand,
And their mighty warring armies raged their constant bloody battles with the fire and destruction of a million huge explosions killing billions at the touch of a button by the few who sought impatiently to brandish all their power and command,
Or just for oil under the sand,
Where religion and philosophy and affluence and poverty and violence and peacefulness and tyranny and liberty and reason and insanity and hatefulness and tenderness and learnedness and ignorance would not go hand in hand,
And then a comet hit the planet and clouded up the atmosphere with clouds of choking ash and carbon dioxide which blocked out all the sunlight and killed off all the plant life along with all the animals and of course for Homo Sapiens things turned out not so grand,
And for this they had not planned,
The end.
-bushman
11/23/2014
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Norton
Social climber
quitcherbellyachin
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Nov 23, 2014 - 06:46am PT
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Hey Bushman,
you really live on Tristan, the most remote island on Earth?
recently I was reading the wiki page about Tristan and how there are various controls in place
to prevent excess profit from being accumulated by individual families
would you mind writing here about life on your island? I am very curious
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Bushman
Social climber
The island of Tristan da Cunha
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Nov 23, 2014 - 07:09am PT
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Sorry Norton,
I live in rural Elk Grove.
The island of Tristan da Cunha sounds so much more exotic than California.
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Norton
Social climber
quitcherbellyachin
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Nov 23, 2014 - 07:33am PT
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well anyway, i like your essay on this specie
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Nov 23, 2014 - 08:03am PT
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Community support is one thing, truth-claims is another.
When it comes to truth-claims, it is... Science vs. Religion. Just as it needs to be. At least till (Abrahamic) religion is out of the truth-claims business.
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"We are usually compared to candy or pearls. Now, ladies, we are told to cover up because we are iPads."
http://twitter.com/RaquelEvita/status/536532524986793984/photo/1
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150,000 men and women everyday... Like Romeo and Juliet...
Another 150,000 coming everyday... We'll be like they are...
Refuse to believe myth and deception need to be a part of one's belief system in order to flourish. That is Old Establishment thinking.
In the words of Neil deGrasse Tyson... "Get over it."
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MikeL
Social climber
Seattle, WA
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Nov 23, 2014 - 09:14am PT
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^^^^^^^^^
(You should get over it, too.)
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