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Jawon
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 24, 2014 - 04:37pm PT
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rbord, sincerely and with no animosity, I am at a loss what your point is. What I thought I was saying pretty clearly all along is this...
1. I believe (as I think most people do) that online discussions about religion is useless. The tendency is to spray, not listen (just read this thread).
2. If there is sincere interest in discussing religion, it should be done in relationship so we get to dig deeper together and understand each others' backstory.
3. If anyone wants a more personal view of someone's journey to Christianity, supertopians can feel free to contact me.
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Tvash
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Seattle
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Aug 24, 2014 - 05:26pm PT
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if anyone wants a more personal view of someone's escape from Christianity, contact Locker for a free feel.
Dig deeper together into each other's backstory.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Aug 24, 2014 - 05:29pm PT
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Jawon,
Your invitation is worthy!
But you can tell from the spew-acholics here in the last pages that alot of spewers aren't ready to come face to face with their own face..
Frankly, i believe "spewing" truths into their minds is something God can use! Remember, Gods "Word" is the foundation of the world! And without a foundation, their house is made of straw and will be blown away. It IS up to us to share His Word.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Aug 24, 2014 - 05:33pm PT
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contact Locker for a free feel.
Locker's never known the Lord. He told me so.
Prolly why he's looking at a motorcycle to be happy?
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Aug 24, 2014 - 05:36pm PT
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"come face to face with your own face"
Papa put two mirrors on opposite walls of our bathroom, facing each other. In high school I quickly learned to never go in there while stoned.
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Aug 24, 2014 - 05:38pm PT
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how could flying through a land of eternal sunshine straddling a mechanical war pony that goes 110 mph at the flick of a wrist possibly make anyone happy?
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Aug 24, 2014 - 05:44pm PT
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In high school I quickly learned to never go in there while stoned.
Thats some of what i'm talk'in bout.
How can one be honest with their own face when someone/something is steering them?
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Aug 24, 2014 - 05:49pm PT
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how could flying through a land of eternal sunshine straddling a mechanical war pony that goes 110 mph at the flick of a wrist possibly make anyone happy?
Prolly being inches from death, coming out alive, seems "God-like"?
Ask Base104 about his experiences.
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Captain...or Skully
climber
in the oil patch...Fricken Bakken, that's where
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Aug 24, 2014 - 07:24pm PT
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Religion is just another drug, like football.
What's so bad about no gods or when you die, you're dead?
Are you afraid?....
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Aug 24, 2014 - 08:14pm PT
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Are you afraid?....
No not at all. Well, it could have been a motivator?
i think it's better then waiting to the last minute and having all these questions, and not having any time to get answers..
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Aug 24, 2014 - 09:14pm PT
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Show me one single thing actually written by GOD...
and I will be an instant believer...
^^^ There you go!
Thank You God!
Oh ye of little faith..
Edit: That was just written of your avatar as an example, nothing meant personally!(talk'in bout the prior rhetoric).
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Aug 24, 2014 - 09:51pm PT
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No GOD had anything to do with what I posted...
I should know...
I posted it.
Not even God the Creator?
Didn't ur "I" create that post?
WE are Brothers to Him, don't'cha know?
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Mark Force
Trad climber
Cave Creek, AZ
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Aug 25, 2014 - 07:15am PT
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This is from a previous post I made about these topics that seemed to fit here.
Aug 27, 2013 - 12:47am PT
Apes throw their sh#t. They can throw a lot of it and they can throw it a long ways.
We've evolved to the point we can invent our own sh#t, a lot of it and in great variety. We become convinced that our sh#t is better than everybody else's sh#t and that they're stupid or evil if they don't believe our shift is the best sh#t.
We are so creative that we deceive ourselves into believing that we didn't just make this sh#t up and it is actually reality.
There's a guy who once said that by their fruits we shall know them. We could make up less sh#t and just make a point of showing up and being useful.
PS I just made this sh#t up.
Seems like ego is at the center of a belief that god looks like them and listens to and responds to their personal prayers. Seems like ego is at the center of the belief that the sciences that we have invented and the models we have developed account for all of reality and are perfectly accurate.
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WBraun
climber
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Aug 25, 2014 - 07:42am PT
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Seems like ego is at the center of a belief
Ironic from a guy doing a lot of his own spewing in this thread making his own claims based on his own belief with no proof.
Check your own ego Mark .....
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Aug 25, 2014 - 07:48am PT
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" Seems like ego is at the center of the belief that the sciences that we have invented and the models we have developed account for all of reality and are perfectly accurate."
Aaaand I know zero people practicing or interesting in science who believe this.
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Aug 25, 2014 - 08:10am PT
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with Jesus, no less - "I'm not your Father, Luke...I'm your Brother"
I am learning SO MUCH about Christianity here.
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Aug 25, 2014 - 08:18am PT
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Well THAT resolves the question of where the Universe came from.
The Self Eating Watermelon Theory.
3000 years of Yahweh debunked in under 5 seconds.
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Aug 25, 2014 - 08:30am PT
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Christianity in 4 words:
Yahweh or the Highway.
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Mark Force
Trad climber
Cave Creek, AZ
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Aug 25, 2014 - 08:31am PT
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Werner, almost all of us have lots of ego. A lot of people feel I'm full of it....... ;-)
The point I'm trying to make is that we all have beliefs about this god issue and none of us have proof. And, that's OK. There is a difference between claiming a belief and claiming that your belief is the truth with a capital T. I am questioning that position whether you're a theist or an atheist.
There are the edges of science that aren't so solid and there is religion which is all about taking stuff on faith. There are the values, morals, and ethics within religions that we can observe their effect and economies (benefits). Then there are philosophies and their ethics. I find the ethics within stuff Jesus, supposedly, said about how to act/be in the world that is compelling and that forms part of my personal philosophy.
But, being agnostic, my position is that none of us ultimately know. We just try to understand all of it the best we can and make sh#t up about it.
Jawon seems like a good guy and seems motivated by compassion to be of service. None of the stuff I'm posting is about doubting his sincerity.
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Aug 25, 2014 - 08:36am PT
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Catholicism, bumper sticker version:
"Ass, cash, or mass, nobody abides for free"
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