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johnboy
Trad climber
Can't get here from there
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Jan 17, 2014 - 09:53pm PT
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I can only rely on life experience here. I at a very young age was taught all about guns, their use, how not to use them and everything else.
This from a guy who pointed and shot his brother with a lethal weapon knowing full well that any number of places it hit could of killed or seriously hurt his brother.
Your insight to your conclusion is failed.
Got any more denial?
How about your view of woman that use birth control being nothing but sluts?
Get help before we have to read about you in the news.
Don't expect a response to any of your justifications, it's just more of your self delusional behavior.
Seriously, seek professional help.
Hey snot nose,,, GO FEKK YURSELF. Ya nagchampa -vegan starving nail pounder.
Wasnt it YOU on here begging for any kinda work a week ago? I have had it with your little snipes shyt fer brains.
edit: and yeah it is hard to find a job here. Had an interview with a roofer who needs help. Im not fluent in spanish so he said i wouldnt work out very well.
More of your crying out and intolerance.
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thebravecowboy
Social climber
Colorado Plateau
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Jan 18, 2014 - 12:01am PT
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tooth
Trad climber
B.C.
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Jan 18, 2014 - 01:09pm PT
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I'm sorry Ron. Sounds like a bunch of ignorant grade 6 kids giving you a hard time. If it is any condolence - we still have a decent society up here in Canada like you described, hundreds of guns in my neighborhood of 10 homes, everyone shoots in their yards, no crime or city idiots , everyone raises their kids, etc. I hear you, and I love this life! I can see how I would be pissed off at people who had this if I lived in a city where my hand was held and my every move was tracked etc. Freedom takes a whole society, and most of the people you are arguing with live in a society who aren't free because of population density, one idiot ruins it for the whole group. Their reality is their truth, they aren't wrong when they say that their society would be better off without guns. Or sharp knives, or whatever idiots can use to disrupt society. Their hands need to be held, and they will never be able to raise their kids the way you were raised, or live in a society you live in. If you take away city gun stats in the US, the gun crime rate is lower than Belgium. I lived in San Bernardino for 4 years, and now I live in the bush in Canada where I can't see or hear neighbors. The difference is real. I want my neighbors to have guns here, I didn't in San Bernardino.
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tooth
Trad climber
B.C.
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Jan 18, 2014 - 02:40pm PT
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We are building a sustainable children's village in Haiti. 2 homes and 2 wells so far on 5 acres, off the grid, solar power. Have kids we have rescued from slavery, sex slavery, orphans, trafficked 5-year-olds to 18years old. We teach them life skills like masonry, welding, mechanics, carpentry, sewing, drilling wells, fabricating Hambro joist systems and teaching the 100 local laborers how to build to our standards for earthquakes, etc. Growing 5 acres of their own organic food, nuts, fruit, vegetables, rice, beans.
This is Haiti, people can't own guns easily. This past few months there have been way more riots than normal. One Monday after weeks of escalating violence, the group came by the orphanage yet again, broke in, did damage and stole things. Went on to escalate down the road and kill 30 people with machetes.
The next week we had 2 people posted at the gates with shotguns. Nobody has bothered us again.
Those guns aren't killing people. Because we have guys holding them it disperses the riots and saves possible lives. But it isn't the gun doing it, it is our understanding of the society that saves and protects, using the tools available. The moment you loose the ability to see tools as tools and people as the cause of violence and relationship breakdowns, you lower yourself as a human by elevating the tools we have made as more powerful than we. This is a very hard thing to learn if your parents didn't teach you that you are responsible for your own actions when you were 5. It is easier to make it to your 60's in a city without ever learning this lesson.
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Harvey Manfrenjensen
Big Wall climber
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Jan 18, 2014 - 07:58pm PT
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I remember my first AK, in middle school: the teacher told to take it apart and put it back together on timer, or get an F. Next was a hand grenade. You had to master AK before taking on grenades. Then, you know, you learned that a regular glass bottle can be filled with gasoline and if you put in a piece of cloth, light it up and throw it you can take some stuff out! I remember the faces of all the dead child soldiers looking at me from the walls every day at school...
Berkeley?
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Jan 20, 2014 - 12:14pm PT
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http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/01/20/3183991/south-carolina-senate-candidate-suggests-teachers-carry-machine-guns-school/
South Carolina Senate Candidate Suggests Teachers Should Be Able To Carry Machine Guns In School
BY IGOR VOLSKY ON JANUARY 20, 2014 AT 10:59 AM
872 137 "South Carolina Senate Candidate Suggests Teachers Should Be Able To Carry Machine Guns In School" Share: Share on facebook Share on google_plusone_share Share on email
South Carolina State Sen. Lee Bright (R)
CREDIT: BRIGHTFORSENATE.COM
South Carolina state Sen. Lee Bright (R), who is challenging Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) in the GOP primary, said on Friday that school teachers should be able to carry machine guns to protect students from gun violence.
Appearing on Fox News Radio’s The Alan Colmes Show, Bright expanded on his proposed bill to create high school courses on how to use a fire arm by agreeing with Colmes that the government cannot legally restrict gun ownership on school grounds:
COLMES: So [teachers] shouldn’t have machine guns?
BRIGHT: I would think a teacher protecting a school grounds should be able to carry whatever she can carry legally.
COLMES: So should machine guns be legal to carry?
BRIGHT: The Second Amendment is pretty clear. It says the right to carry arms should not be infringed. [...]
COLMES: So you should be able to have any gun you want?
BRIGHT: Well, I don’t see how the government can regulate it.
In fact, the Supreme Court has ruled that the government can limit ownership of “dangerous and unusual” weapons that are not in “common use.” As conservative Justice Antonin Scalia concluded in the landmark 2008 case District of Columbia v. Heller — which held that the Second Amendment provides an individual right to carry a firearm under certain circumstances — “nothing in our opinion should be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms…in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.”
Congress significantly limited the sale of machine guns in the 1986 Firearms Owners’ Protection Act, which prevents the sale to civilians “of all machine guns made after the law took effect.”
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Binks
climber
Uranus
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Jan 26, 2014 - 09:11pm PT
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bump for another mall shooting... the beatings will continue until morale improves
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thebravecowboy
Social climber
Colorado Plateau
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Jan 26, 2014 - 09:19pm PT
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^dig the J.R. "bob" dobbs Binks
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Gun nuts are so frigging twitchy paranoid. Yes you.
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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And they never talk about reality. They just pseudo-philosophize and make stupid pointless irrelevant analogies. Yes you.
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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For example , you pea-brained jackass, you say 'responsible gun owners' yet admit no responsibility. How, besides regulation, can we be confident that you are responsible. I think you sound like a gun accident/ gun rampage/ gun suicide kind of middling intellect. Yes you.
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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For you Ur-fascists ( lookitup Umberto Eco)
12. Since both permanent war and heroism are difficult games to play, the Ur-Fascist transfers his will to power to sexual matters.
This is the origin of machismo (which implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality). Since even sex is a difficult game to play, the Ur-Fascist hero tends to play with weapons -- doing so becomes an ersatz phallic exercise.
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Hey gun-tard,
Umberto Eco knows you better than you know yourself.
Who does this sound like?
"3. Irrationalism also depends on the cult of action for action's sake.
Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation. Therefore culture is suspect insofar as it is identified with critical attitudes. Distrust of the intellectual world has always been a symptom of Ur-Fascism, from Hermann Goering's fondness for a phrase from a Hanns Johst play ("When I hear the word 'culture' I reach for my gun") to the frequent use of such expressions as "degenerate intellectuals," "eggheads," "effete snobs," and "universities are nests of reds." The official Fascist intellectuals were mainly engaged in attacking modern culture and the liberal intelligentsia for having betrayed traditional values."
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jonnyrig
Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
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People dont kill people, knives kill people. Knives should be registered, kept dull, limited to four inches or less, and limited to one per person. Nobody NEEDS more than one.
While we,re at it, the freedom of owners of knives to peaceably assemble should be restricted. No good can come of such associations of owners of dangerous weapons. They will obviously and eventually turn violent. Because they own knives.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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I don't know why I don't like Mondays... Which I guess it is, in China now...
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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We're not trying to regulate guns. We're trying to regulate murderous PEOPLE who have guns, we're trying to regulate immoral gun SELLERS, and irresponsible KIDS and should-be responsible PARENTS.
I hear your little brains now "Can't" "Won't work" etcetera. But we can and it will work. You see just because you can't and won't learn doesn't mean that progress stops. Enjoy your lonely weirdness until the paranoia makes you Mad.
In a battle of wits I rely on superior firepower. If the sh#t hits, I'll have mis amigos take your compound so we can grow food together in peace. La gente unida de todos races will usually crush the lone nutter.
Boo! I bet the cracker racists churn at night worrying about the white looking non-whites. How will they know whether to trust us. Lol.
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Transmogrify? Really ? Using big words incorrectly is a prime example of the substance of Ron's argument.
Transmogrify:
transform, esp. in a surprising or magical manner.
From gun shootings to gun shootings isn't very surprising, magical or even a transformation at all, is it?
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