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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Except that we do have precedence of steel being susceptable to heat in high rise buildings. Windsor tower for example.
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Nope, Windsor building was built in 1979. Steel only portion collapsed under fire in 2005.
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crankster
Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
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Hey, you Truther's got an opinion on this chem trail stuff? Any possibility this helped bring down the towers? You know, breaking down the chemical properties of the steel in advance of Bush's brother placing the thermite? Any chance Oswald was involved? Elvis?
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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LOL, do your own homework, big boy.
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Really, you can't even use wiki?
Dang you are stupid.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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I do not speak for any Jewish people
I have no idea where you got that.
I don't either, as a rule. For example, when Fattrad was always beating the pro-Israel drum, I spoke up for the Palestinians.
But when there are haters like rsin and jammer spewing away, I will speak up for the Jews.
This whole zionist takeover of the world is such bullsh#t. They did such a great job of preventing the extermination of 6 million Jews didn't they?
That tiny little country over there sure has done a bang-up job taking over the world haven't they? Yeah right.
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Still can't find the wiki link, Jammer?
Do you want me to hold your hand?
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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LOADS simpler than the "progressive collapse" theory. Seriously, the only documented cases of that were half-constructed buildings where whole floors were only semi-attached and thus were able to come loose all at once and hit the next floor almost entirely unimpeded, and NO cases of fire induced "progressive collapse", let alone fire induced "progressive collapse" of any steel building anywhere (including the ones engulfed in flames which rSin posted) has ever been documented.
None of those other buildings were ignited with 150,000 pounds of jet fuel, were they?
The NIST report even admits to gaping holes. You are truly stupid to still support it's conclusions. Just plain fundamentally incapable of discerning truth from reality.
The only true stupidity is assuming that a "hole" in a factual analysis proves there is a conspiracy.
Curt
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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What a bunch of nonsense jammer. You my friend, are the one who is off the chain.
Refer to my discussions with fatty about Israel, if you dare.
Now explain your deep love of the Jewish people to me.
BTW, your link is bullshit too.
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Where did you get YOUR degree? Seriously, I want to make an academic complaint against that place, or in your case perhaps a complaint regarding ethics since I know you are actually almost as smart as you pretend to be.
For someone who cries like a little girl about ad-hominem attacks, you certainly can toss them around yourself. My degree is in engineering, not physics--still, there is a lot of physics involved. For many years I did fundamental research in the area of compound semiconductor materials and have published a number of papers on semiconductor physics in peer-reviewed journals. If you're interested, I can cite them for you. I would agree with you, however, that one of us knows next to nothing about physics and is nothing more than an incompetent internet blowhard.
Curt
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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you denied the Palestinian genocide, literally. Literally? Where? Prove it.
You can't shut me up jammer. I just tire of your crap and move on with my day.
I told you that your "war crimes" crew lacked credibility.
I have plenty of sympathy for the Palestinians.
Someone like you, telling me about anti-Israel sentiment? Get a grip.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 4, 2013 - 02:55pm PT
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So rsin = jammer = mt10910?
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Exactly.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 4, 2013 - 02:57pm PT
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Well, I'll be.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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And to think that I was once sympathetic to split personalities.
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Now you are starting to get it rSin. Architecture of a building is important.
The Windsor building had a concrete reinforced core as shown in your pic.
The WTC towers did not have a concrete core.
Your pic also shows the steel only portion collapsed.
The new WTC towers now have a concrete core.
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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The windsor building was also not struck by a jetliner, and it's fires were fought.
Thanks for showing the vulnerability of steel to heat. Much appreciated.
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WBraun
climber
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monoliths trademark has always been totally disingenuous here.
He's another example of a passive aszhole .......
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Yes, there are many passive azholes around here.
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