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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Feb 26, 2015 - 07:27pm PT
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Not sure if the job will kill me before skin cancer does but I just got cheap health insurance. Thank you Mr President.
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crankster
Trad climber
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Feb 26, 2015 - 07:29pm PT
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Good for you, flip.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Feb 26, 2015 - 09:01pm PT
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Let's not over think this...Get rid of the as#@&%e insurance leeches that contribute zilch to medical care...The MD's will get a fatter paycheck and the cost of insurance will shrink...Oh wait...That's not what Rush told us to think...
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crankster
Trad climber
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Feb 27, 2015 - 06:34am PT
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Former Arizona county sheriff Richard Mack, a fierce opponent of Obamacare and a leader in the "constitutional sheriff" movement, is struggling to pay his medical bills after he and his wife each faced serious illnesses. The former sheriff and his wife do not have health insurance and started a GoFundMe campaign to solicit donations from family and friends to cover the costs of their medical care.
"Because they are self-employed, they have no medical insurance and are in desperate need of our assistance," reads a note on Mack's personal website.
Mack, the founder of the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association, suffered a heart attack in January and is in recovery. His wife fell ill late last year. Mack is on the board of Oath Keepers, a right-wing fringe group made up of police and military veterans, and is known for supporting Cliven Bundy in his standoff against the federal government. He is also an ardent opponent of Obamacare.
"The States do not have to take or support or pay for Obamacare or anything else from Washington DC. The States are not subject to federal direction," he wrote on his website, outlining how state governments can block President Obama.
The CSPOA lauded South Carolina for using Mack's 1992 lawsuit against gun control legislation to attempt to nullify the Affordable Care Act in the state.
"Now as states wake up to their true power and responsibility, we have SC taking exemplary action to protect their citizens from an out of control federal government," a CSPOA blog post about the South Carolina bill reads.
Mack founded the CSPOA to "unite all public servants and sheriffs, to keep their word to uphold, defend, protect, preserve, and obey the Constitutions of the United States of America" and described the group as "the army to set our nation free." The CSPOA is helping to get the word out about the fundraising campaign to offset the Macks' medical expenses.
"Since it appears that recovery will take a good deal of time with associated expenses, I struggle to not feel stress – both the stress of thinking about huge hospital and other medical bills as well as regular living expenses while I am unable to work -- and also the stress of not being able to accomplish what I am so passionate about doing for others," Mack wrote in a note on his GoFundMe page. "It is difficult and humbling to say that we need your help, but we do."
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Feb 27, 2015 - 07:24am PT
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When any one of us get so sick we can't work and end up in a Hospital
All we have to do is hit some friends up to pay your bills, right?
If you're lucky, you might get a Josh Fest.
If you're unlucky, you bankrupt your family and loose your house.
All because Repubs have killed "Single Payer"
They aren't true Conservatives, they are a cult beholden to Big Bucks
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Feb 27, 2015 - 08:32am PT
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So every sector of the Dow and the S&P 500 is up today except healthcare.
How can that be? Health care prices have outstripped every other sector for
a long time and, despite the President's good intentions, will undoubtedly
continue to climb. It is hardly a free and open market subject to mean
reversions. I really don't see how it is possible to control it, but I am open
to yer suggestions.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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I suggest cutting out the non-value-added middle men ['insurance' companies] first off.
Next, incentivize healthier life-style choices. How? If I knew that, I'd be president or at least a do-nothing senator.
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
extraordinaire
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Banged for $200 taken out of our tax refund.
The preparer said the penalty will be tripled next year.
Word to your moms - I came to drop bombs.
ST4L
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Obama care sucks!
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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It's been soooooo nice to not be rejected for stooooooopid ass so-called 'pre-existing' conditions.
Worst experience with healthcare thusfar?
The letter I got from Anthem today saying their f*#ked-up security systems made my personal information vulnerable to hackers, and the possibility of identity theft.
Thank you, corporate, profit-driven healthcare system. And F%#K YOU, while you're at it.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Well my carefully crafted note disappeared, so this is gonna have to do.
Bend over and join on in.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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'spose there is any insurance provider that has better personal information security than Anthem?
I'm dubious that such a thing exists, but I'd love to give Anthem the finger and take my business elsewhere.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Ap, have you looked into Kaiser? Maybe there isn't one close enough but I've been quite
happy with them lo these many years. You do sort of have to be somewhat pro-active but
it really isn't onerous.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Seriously, Reilly?
I've heard nothing but horror stories about Kaiser.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Jim Brennan gets a pretty good deal in Canada.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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'spose there is any insurance provider that has better personal information security than Anthem?
I'm dubious that such a thing exists, but I'd love to give Anthem the finger and take my business elsewhere.
I may be wrong, but I don't think you can switch providers before 2016.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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It's worth pointing out, though, that if the US had a public option healthcare system, and such a breach of security occurred, those on the Right would be excoriating the federal gov't for such ineptitude.
Those on the Right should be every bit as vitriolic & impassioned about this lapse of security in a private, for-profit healthcare system.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Ap, seriously, Kaiser provides excellent care IF you are pro-active, but that is a necessity for
any system these days. I can almost guarantee that the majority of those 'horror stories' are
BS. If you don't like your provider you just tell them you want somebody else.
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Norton
Social climber
quitcherbellyachin
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I may be wrong, but I don't think you can switch providers before 2016.
never heard of that one
source?
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Hmm... that's interesting.
'spose Kaiser is any better about personal information protection? I just don't think any corporation takes this as seriously as they should be, and assigning enough priority to improve systems.
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