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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Jun 13, 2013 - 08:49pm PT
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Yer too dense to recognize satire even when it slaps you upside the head.
Stockman requests subpoena of NSA’s White House, IRS phone logs
Jun 11, 2013
Press Release
‘If Obama has nothing to hide he has nothing to fear,’ says Stockman
WASHINGTON – Congressman Steve Stockman (R-Texas 36) Tuesday asked the House Government Reform and Oversight Committee to subpoena all National Security Agency records of phone calls between employees of the White House and the Internal Revenue Service.
Stockman’s office hand delivered a letter Tuesday afternoon to the Committee’s office requesting a subpoena “of all records of every phone call made from all public and private telephones of all IRS personnel to all public and private telephones of all White House personnel” collected under the NSA’s recently-revealed PRISM program.
“Obama assures the public he only collected this information to uncover wrongdoing and protect civil liberties. Clearly he would want us to use it to investigate this case, because otherwise he’d be lying,” said Stockman.
“If Obama has nothing to hide he has nothing to fear,” said Stockman.
“This case must be investigated fully, given admitted wrongdoing by the IRS, its potentially criminal implications and revelations the White House has been less than honest about what they knew and when,” said Stockman. “Obama says the PRISM program is perfectly legal, so there should be no problem whatsoever in providing the information on White House and IRS phone calls.”
“The only possible scenario in which the administration refuses to comply would be if it would reveal unconstitutional or illegal behavior,” said Stockman.
Stockman’s office also electronically delivered the same letter to the Homeland Security Committee chaired by Rep. Michael McCaul. The text of the letter follows:
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jun 13, 2013 - 09:35pm PT
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Ah, Werner, the place just wouldn't be the same without you.
All I can hope is that, as a member of an elite government action team, you're not out there manufacturing rescues
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Jun 13, 2013 - 11:38pm PT
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http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2013/05/ancient-us-weapon-in-syria/
Then M40s somehow came into the hands of rebels in Libya and Syria. Suddenly, the 106mm – light, cheap, easily transportable, simple to operate, and packing a punch all out of proportion to its modest size — has emerged as a possible Great Asymmetric Weapon of the Day.
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Jun 14, 2013 - 02:50am PT
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Daniel Ellsberg's point of view:http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jun/10/edward-snowden-united-stasi-america
"In my estimation, there has not been in American history a more important leak than Edward Snowden's release of NSA material – and that definitely includes the Pentagon Papers 40 years ago. Snowden's whistleblowing gives us the possibility to roll back a key part of what has amounted to an "executive coup" against the US constitution.
Since 9/11, there has been, at first secretly but increasingly openly, a revocation of the bill of rights for which this country fought over 200 years ago. In particular, the fourth and fifth amendments of the US constitution, which safeguard citizens from unwarranted intrusion by the government into their private lives, have been virtually suspended.
The government claims it has a court warrant under Fisa – but that unconstitutionally sweeping warrant is from a secret court, shielded from effective oversight, almost totally deferential to executive requests. As Russell Tice, a former National Security Agency analyst, put it: "It is a kangaroo court with a rubber stamp.""
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Jun 14, 2013 - 11:34am PT
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I found the following video to be extremely helpful in understanding both the importance of the NSA leak and the government's legal position.
This 25 minutes is very well worth the time:
Link: Edward Snowden and the NSA Leaks: A Debate With Chris Hedges & Law Scholar Geoffrey Stone
You might know Hedges, but Stone is a highly credentialed law professor and he certainly knows is stuff. He is able to define, without defending, the laws that come into play, as well as how civil liberties are involved. No matter what side of the fence you find yourself on, you will learn something here.
One who breaks an unjust law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for law.
Martin Luther King
Letter from Brimingham Jail
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Jun 14, 2013 - 12:04pm PT
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Here's a nice summary, from Amy Goodman, of what Snowden did:
Snowden’s historic leak revealed what he calls an “architecture of oppression”—a series of top-secret surveillance programs that go far beyond what has been publicly known to date. The first was an order from the U.S. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court requesting a division of the phone giant Verizon to hand over “all call detail records” for calls from the U.S. to locations abroad, or all calls within the U.S., including local calls. In other words, metadata for every phone call that Verizon Business Network Services processed was to be delivered to the NSA on a daily basis. Another document was a slide presentation revealing a program dubbed “PRISM,” which allegedly empowers NSA snoops access to all the private data stored by Internet giants like Microsoft, AOL, Skype, Google, Apple and Facebook, including email, video chats, photos, files transfers and more.
Snowden released Presidential Policy Directive 20—a top-secret memo from President Barack Obama directing U.S. intelligence agencies to draw up a list of targets for U.S. cyberattacks. Finally came proof of the program called “Boundless Informant,” which creates a global “heat map” detailing the source countries of the 97 billion intercepted electronic records collected by the NSA in the month of March 2013. Among the top targets were Iran, Pakistan, Egypt and Jordan. The leaked map color-codes countries: red for “hot,” then yellow and green. Last March, the U.S. was yellow, providing the NSA with close to 2.9 billion intercepts.
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abrams
Sport climber
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Jun 14, 2013 - 02:24pm PT
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rSin - well said, but you cannot be the rSin because rSin is consistently
clueless.
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Snowmassguy
Trad climber
Calirado
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Jun 14, 2013 - 06:02pm PT
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Now they are saying this dude is possibly a spy for China.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jun 14, 2013 - 08:15pm PT
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Highly doubtful.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Jun 14, 2013 - 08:25pm PT
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http://kieranhealy.org/blog/archives/2013/06/09/using-metadata-to-find-paul-revere/
London, 1772.
I have been asked by my superiors to give a brief demonstration of the surprising effectiveness of even the simplest techniques of the new-fangled Social Networke Analysis in the pursuit of those who would seek to undermine the liberty enjoyed by His Majesty’s subjects. This is in connection with the discussion of the role of “metadata” in certain recent events and the assurances of various respectable parties that the government was merely “sifting through this so-called metadata” and that the “information acquired does not include the content of any communications”. I will show how we can use this “metadata” to find key persons involved in terrorist groups operating within the Colonies at the present time. I shall also endeavour to show how these methods work in what might be called a relational manner.
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J man
Trad climber
morgan hill
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Jun 14, 2013 - 09:00pm PT
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Get the feeling the president has lost his grip on the rudder of government?
Probably because his agencies are floundering aimlessly and breaking laws without a care would be your first indication he isn't at the helm.
But then you'll quip he's not needed to steer the ship of state anyway.
He has assistants that can do it for him.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jun 14, 2013 - 09:28pm PT
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as i was BLASTED just yesterday by many here to "prove" hes been paid or "sold" the intel. OF COURSE HE DID! ;=)
of course you were invited to prove that he sold intell to China
your statement was not a "prediction", it was said as a fact as if it already happened
you could provide no proof, zero
because it was never, ever, reported in any credible press release
you flat made it up
and NOW, just because Dr F decides to pull out of his ass the idea that if COULD be POSSIBLE, you jump on it like that is some kind of PROOF
don't get all excited because somebody agrees with you Ron, a blind squirrel finds an acorn from time to time
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Jun 14, 2013 - 09:31pm PT
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But then you'll quip he's not needed to steer the ship of state anyway.
He has assistants that can do it for him.
And they are directing the ship of state exactly to the reef where he, as a disciple of Cloward and Piven have planed to wreck it from the beginning.
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abrams
Sport climber
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Jun 14, 2013 - 10:00pm PT
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Oh man! Beer almost spilled reading this. Spot on!
Get the feeling the president has lost his grip on the rudder of government?
Probably because his agencies are floundering aimlessly and breaking laws without a care would be your first indication he isn't at the helm.
But then you'll quip he's not needed to steer the ship of state anyway.
He has assistants that can do it for him.
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dirtbag
climber
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Jun 14, 2013 - 10:15pm PT
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Benghazi!
oh wait...that really wasn't a scandal.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Jun 14, 2013 - 10:29pm PT
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Here's what's happened so far as a result of Snowden's leaks:
Link: Leaks are vital
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
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Jun 14, 2013 - 10:47pm PT
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nice post k-man
edit:democracy can be ugly
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