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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Aug 14, 2015 - 12:55pm PT
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The incipient racisim in today's repugnant party makes it easy for them to recreate history. What we are witnessing is the final gasp of white priviledge in the multi racial society that America has become.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Aug 14, 2015 - 01:26pm PT
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Cragman, you're right on target, which is why the response to your post is, in fact, nonresponsive. It's funny how the economy tanked after the Democrats took over majorities in the House and Senate, but somehow it's not their fault.
And we're supposed to praise them for giving us the weakest recovery in 70 years? Really? That said, I think Obama has done several things right:
1. He did not intervene in Syria when everyone wanted him to. I believe that our intelligence in the region was - and remains - so bad that any intervention would have helped IS, not moderates.
2. He fought to retain fast track authority, over the parochial interests of his own party. That was an act of principle for which he deserves praise.
3. Under his administration, FEMA has been much more responsive.
4. As weak as the recovery has been, he hasn't tried to mess with the Fed, and at least the economy hasn't reverted to recession. Under the policies of the Carter administration, we'd have had another recession or two.
This may be damning by faint praise, but I could think of far worse fates for the country - including what would have happened had a few Republicans I can think of been elected President.
John
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Aug 14, 2015 - 01:34pm PT
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mb, you'll be voting for the libertarian candidate, I presume.
Probably not. If Bernie gets the nomination, I'll probably vote for him, as I've said.
Strange, that movement never gets any traction...maybe people see it as an untested philosophy they want no part of.
That's a hoot. It's the best tested philosophy, as it's the one this nation was founded on. The fact that we've drifted so far from it that we NOW see it as "untested" just shows how philosophically (and historically) ignorant almost everybody in this "great" (not anymore) nation is.
The good thing for you is you never have your candidate win election which allows you a contant reason to complain, if you're into that.
You could not be more incorrect.
"Democrats can't come up with anyone better than her"....well, they haven't come up with anybody yet, the election is over a year from now. Better? Let's see, a brilliant woman, served her country as First Lady, Senator, Secretary of State...that's not too bad a resume.
Choke, snort, guffaw, ROLF.... tears streaming down my face.
As I said, you CANNOT be honest about the Hillabeast that you KNOW the "establishment" IS going to foist off on you, so you HAVE to pretend that she's what you'd really want anyway. It is to laugh.
But I'm not in favor of citizen politicians (ie, no experience). You need to know how the system works to get anything done. That's just being realistic.
Uhh... riiiiightttt! Like your junior senator who was previously a mere "community organizer"? The one you're so proud of now?
Okay. Bye bye now.
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Vulcan
Sport climber
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Aug 14, 2015 - 01:59pm PT
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Cragman
Very good list.
Here is one more.
The debate on Obama Care will be on CNN.
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two-shoes
Trad climber
Auberry, CA
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Aug 14, 2015 - 02:06pm PT
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What that donini guy says, he's right on!
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Gary
Social climber
Hell is empty and all the devils are here
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Aug 14, 2015 - 02:12pm PT
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Cragman, do you have amnesia? You must have forgotten the last Republican president left us with an economy on the verge of total collapse,
Make that the last three Republican presidents.
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Aug 14, 2015 - 02:13pm PT
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John, I'm often intrigued by your stances. On the one hand you are very educated, an economist, and on the other, you make statements like this:
It's funny how the economy tanked after the Democrats took over majorities in the House and Senate, but somehow it's not their fault
I would expect comments like this from someone who doesn't understand the principles of cause and effect and the time delay between them. It is pretty unproductive to tie congressional or presidential responsibility to the economic status during their terms (other than their oblique impact on consumer or business outlook and attitudes for the future), and yet it is a favorite topic of political debates.
You seem like a straight shooter, honest, but I can't reconcile your stances on this. If you said "I like republicans because they support business policies that improve my financial situation" well I can disagree with the motivation for that position but still respect it, understand how it is consistent with your values.
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dirtbag
climber
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Aug 14, 2015 - 04:09pm PT
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ODS is incurable.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Aug 14, 2015 - 05:08pm PT
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Well, gentlemen, I doubt many minds or party affiliations are going to be changed tonight. Doesn't change the fact that I'm proud of the job this president has done given the difficult task he was presented with. I'm happy to see that flag flying over Havana, too. I was a duck & cover kid in the 60's and I would love to see Cuba become a democracy in my lifetime.
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Roughster
Sport climber
Vacaville, CA
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Aug 14, 2015 - 05:25pm PT
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Sanders!
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Oct 23, 2015 - 07:12am PT
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I'm so proud of my FUTURE president too!
Did you see how She handled those republican regressives
yesterday? all of whom were out for political blood of course.
She was amazing!!
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Oct 23, 2015 - 07:19am PT
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HFCS, She's formidable as a presidential candidate. No serious Republican insider doesn't recognize this. They must be thinking, "wtf, we're going to send up Donald Trump or Ben Carson to face her?"
It's a year until the election but it's hard to see the crazy party getting it together enough to beat her.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Oct 23, 2015 - 07:23am PT
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So true, Crankster.
Repub retro is shocking - beyond the pale.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Oct 23, 2015 - 07:29am PT
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Cragman, do you have amnesia?
No. He firmly believes everything he copy/pastes.
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Norton
Social climber
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Oct 23, 2015 - 09:41am PT
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Jammer
Really?
Explain how Trump or Rubio gets to 270 Electoral Votes to beat her please
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dirtbag
climber
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Oct 23, 2015 - 09:55am PT
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Rubio should get Texas, but I think it would be very challenging for Trump to win there.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Oct 23, 2015 - 10:30am PT
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Fructose enjoy while u can
Obama change only went sooooooo faaar then Washington shut him down..
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Norton
Social climber
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Oct 23, 2015 - 10:43am PT
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Obama change only went sooooooo faaar then Washington shut him down..
wrong
no President since as far back as Lyndon Johnson in 1965 got more accomplished
to benefit both the lower and middle classes as President Obama has done
fact is..you can't stand it, you can't handle the truth
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Oct 23, 2015 - 11:14am PT
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Norton,
I agree with you.
This is why I think we need another trans-formative candidate, like Donald Trump, to bring innovation along with truth to the table.
:)
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Oct 23, 2015 - 11:24am PT
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Norton ur wrong!
Obama caved in..
Sure has done a whole Lotta a nada!
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