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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Oct 11, 2011 - 12:21pm PT
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No one is against people, businesses, or corporations making an honest living and making a profit.
What we are against is the out of balance greed, and we are against the corruption.
How much is enough?
You can't go to the grave with your billions. It won't help to open Heaven's doors to you.
You have a responsibility a social obligation to help others less fortunate from your abundance (ie. jobs for all people, debt relief, housing, clothing and feeding the homeless, caring for the sick and elderly, helping those who can not help themselves etc. etc. etc.)
Do you not get this?
Once again . . .
Oct 10, 2011 - 07:51am PT
GOD is on the side of the 99% ers . . .
The Fixx: "How Much is Enough?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xcuGBQWswg
The Fixx: "No one has to cry"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74dlhTr9H50
The Bible on the Poor or, Why God is a liberal
http://www.zompist.com/meetthepoor.html
The 1% will ultimately lose the fight. Truth and Righteousness will always prevail in the end.
What did Jesus Christ, Emmanuel (GOD with us), tell us so plainly and simply?
"It is easier for a camel to enter through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter into the Kingdom of Heaven."
What you do on this Earth while you live here matters. How you treat others matters. The Golden Rule. |
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OR
Trad climber
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Oct 11, 2011 - 12:24pm PT
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Norton....
TGT, try getting your facts straight BEFORE you speak.
You state that President Obama was "coddled" by attending private schools.
REALLY?
He went to a PUBLIC grade school in Hawaii, and a PUBLIC high school in Hawaii
He went to a PUBLIC college, Columbia University.
Columbia is about as far from a public university as possible. Its an IVY and the oldest private college in New York state. Not knit picking here but you are calling out TGT on getting his facts straight.......
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Oct 11, 2011 - 12:48pm PT
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They are out there protesting the miserable lives they've built for themselves. HS dropouts, Humanities majors, losers, let them rot in the street.
Thanks Jeff. I appreciate your positive contribution.
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TKingsbury
Trad climber
MT
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Oct 11, 2011 - 12:53pm PT
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Oct 11, 2011 - 01:01pm PT
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Right on Tom!!!!
I have Been thinking that humanity needs to be flushed. I'm tired of the fattrads of the world. So thanks for the positive contribution.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Oct 11, 2011 - 01:04pm PT
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Yes, that guy ^^^ sounds like a "drop out"
Jesus what a dumb fuk
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TKingsbury
Trad climber
MT
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Oct 11, 2011 - 01:10pm PT
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“there is nobody in this country who got rich on his own. Nobody…Part of the underlying social contract is you take a hunk of that and pay forward for the next kid who comes along.” Elizabeth Warren
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Oct 11, 2011 - 01:15pm PT
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I don't see why we can't just deregulate everything and let the consumers dictate a myriad of things. From ethics to environmental impact, if consumers don't agree with a corporation or businesses policies then we just won't buy those products, right? I mean, we're ALL super up to date with current events in our Nation. I'm sure that ethics and fairness would trump money. Sounds like a plan, tell those uneducated hippies to deoccupy Wall St, and get a job if they can find one.
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krahmes
Social climber
Stumptown
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Oct 11, 2011 - 01:32pm PT
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It seems to me the OW OWS are day late and dollar short. Did the banks and financial firms executive need to be held to a reckoning? Yes. Has the Obama administration had 3 years to lead on this issue and done nothing?
It’s unbelievable that more people went to prison during the dotcom bust. Maybe we should just throw Martha Stewart in jail again. It’s not that I so much want these white collar criminals/business retards to go to prison; than I want them to be exiled to suburbia on a stipend with the possibility of ever possessing large sum money removed from the outcome of their pathetic lives. Need a list to start? Maurice R. Greenberg (AGI); Charles O. Prince III (Citibank); Richard S. Fuld (Lehman); Franklin D. Raines (Fannie Mae); John Thain (Merrill Lynch); James E. Cayne (Bear Stearns- but to be fair he did ride the crash just about to bottom-still he’s probably worth $100 million)
By the same token it hard not to look at the death of Steve Jobs and realize the not everyone is created equal in ability or awesomeness. Entrepreneurs have an important place in the USA.
As for transnational corporations it would be nice to see so called free trade become more fair equitable, but don’t hold your breath.
Did the Bush tax cuts (which should have never been implemented in a time of war) need to be extended? Not in my opinion. That the Obama administration and Nancy Pelosi (talk about a political aristocrat) and a Reid led congress couldn’t make this happen just reflects the Democratic hypocrisy and lameness. The stimulus was a joke.
The precious compassionate European State held up by the educated and the idle in the USA as a model of governance is a house of cards.
Just as the tea party started as something and has been sucked into the corporatist wing of the GOP, I see the Occupy crowd destined to be swallowed whole by the public employee unions.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Oct 11, 2011 - 01:45pm PT
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Dr,
Exactly, history dictates that businesses should be able to do as they please, because all of America pays attention to how businesses conduct themselves.
Problem solved.
And on the environmental side, you naysayers may cite superfund sites. In the new model, there will be no superfund sites. No more EPA.
Problem solved.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Oct 11, 2011 - 01:59pm PT
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What is lead and arsenic trading at right now?
Serious $ potential there.
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goatboy smellz
climber
Nederland
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Oct 11, 2011 - 02:04pm PT
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Hey luvgas, can we all crash at your place when it gets cold out?
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Oct 11, 2011 - 02:16pm PT
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So, if I travel the five hours to NYC to participate in the protest in my truck, burning fuel, am I a hypocrite? Or am I just using a product or commodity to facilitate the voicing of my displeasure in regards to their practices?
Should I walk?
Maybe I should just stay home and pray, prayer solves everything if you believe and listen to The Word, right?
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Oct 11, 2011 - 02:20pm PT
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It seems to me the OW OWS are day late and dollar short. Did the banks and financial firms executive need to be held to a reckoning? Yes. Has the Obama administration had 3 years to lead on this issue and done nothing?
It’s unbelievable that more people went to prison during the dotcom bust. Maybe we should just throw Martha Stewart in jail again. It’s not that I so much want these white collar criminals/business retards to go to prison; than I want them to be exiled to suburbia on a stipend with the possibility of ever possessing large sum money removed from the outcome of their pathetic lives. Need a list to start? Maurice R. Greenberg (AGI); Charles O. Prince III (Citibank); Richard S. Fuld (Lehman); Franklin D. Raines (Fannie Mae); John Thain (Merrill Lynch); James E. Cayne (Bear Stearns- but to be fair he did ride the crash just about to bottom-still he’s probably worth $100 million)
By the same token it hard not to look at the death of Steve Jobs and realize the not everyone is created equal in ability or awesomeness. Entrepreneurs have an important place in the USA.
As for transnational corporations it would be nice to see so called free trade become more fair equitable, but don’t hold your breath.
Did the Bush tax cuts (which should have never been implemented in a time of war) need to be extended? Not in my opinion. That the Obama administration and Nancy Pelosi (talk about a political aristocrat) and a Reid led congress couldn’t make this happen just reflects the Democratic hypocrisy and lameness. The stimulus was a joke.
The precious compassionate European State held up by the educated and the idle in the USA as a model of governance is a house of cards.
Just as the tea party started as something and has been sucked into the corporatist wing of the GOP, I see the Occupy crowd destined to be swallowed whole by the public employee unions.
I read this and thought it was from Bluering because out of the corner of my eye the avatar picture looked like his. I was thinking "Wow, he has expanded beyond his us or them thinking and actually made some very intelligent and insightful comments. But alas it was krahmes who has an open mind and sees reality.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Oct 11, 2011 - 02:23pm PT
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They are out there protesting the miserable lives they've built for themselves. HS dropouts, Humanities majors, losers, let them rot in the street.
-- fattrad
They don't make many people more ugly than fattrad.
[maybe 1%]
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Oct 11, 2011 - 02:26pm PT
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http://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/
My dad is unemployed due to disabilities obtained on the job. He’s in need of health insurance but is NOT ELIGIBLE for Medicare because he could be covered on my mom’s health insurance.
The problem is, if she adds him, she would OWE her job $$ each month and have no take home income. The sole income upon which they rely.
After 25+ years of happy marriage, my parents are considering DIVORCE just so he can be eligible for Medicare.
WE are the 99%.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Oct 11, 2011 - 02:30pm PT
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http://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/
It is sad that I consider my family lucky.
4 kids
Husband works full time for minimum wage and no affordable benefits (health insurance would cost more than his monthly gross pay)
We qualify for food stamps and housing assistance
We live paycheck to paycheck
But at least we have food and shelter.
We are locked into a single income because child care would absorb a second income (plus some)
We do not have credit cards and drive a car that is over 10 years old because we don’t want payments.
Neither myself or my husband have been to the doctor or dentist in over 5 years.
I am in a community college (for Computer Science) and I am fortunate that a Pell Grant covers my tuition and books. But I can see that it is a useless degree.
I fear that the programs that feed us and keep us in a home will be cut soon.
I am the 99%.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Oct 11, 2011 - 02:33pm PT
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Why would anyone feel "threatened" by normal Americans expressing frustration?
They don't want your job, and they don't want your money.
They are simply pointing out the growing inequity gap in America.
They feel they did everything "right", they have less and less, and see the rich get more rich.
They have a right to express their opinion.
Why would anyone have a problem with this?
Talk against them?
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Oct 11, 2011 - 02:37pm PT
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THIS is what they are expressing their own frustration about: THE 1% versus the 99%
The state comptroller of New York reckons that Wall Street firms paid $20.8 billion in cash bonuses to their employees in the state in 2010. This was 8% lower than the total for 2009, and just 61% of the sum paid in 2006, when bonuses peaked at $34.3 billion. The decline reflects a shift toward deferred compensation and higher base salaries rather than lower profits. Total profits of $27.6 billion made 2010 Wall Street’s most profitable year with the exception of 2009, when it benefited from bail-out money and low interest rates.
http://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Oct 11, 2011 - 02:43pm PT
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Riley, isn't it a strange concept? That people would care so much more about themselves as to throw everyone else under the bus?
This selfish concept has always been lost on me.
I like making money, and lately I'm very good at it. Who cares though? Money is such a small fraction of what should define humanity.
Empathy should trump money every single day, and anyone who disagrees is eitherly overly selfish or has never known true adversity or struggle.
IMO.
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