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bluering
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Santa Clara, CA
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Nov 30, 2011 - 12:11am PT
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They were carefully planned assassinations to stop political succession. In the manner in which a prince is killed. And as PR for his ideas.
We are going over old ground.
This makes it o.k.? If I disagree with brainwashed commies who indoctrinate their kids, I can kill them?
No! You "re-educate", or whatever you wanna call it. You "deprogram" them. You have no right to kill them.
I hate to use Soviet terms in this case. But many kids are raised with odd belief systems, including Christians.
Bottom line. YOU CAN'T KILL THEM!!!! Maybe jail the parents though...
Look what we did to Saddam's sons.
No comparison at all, dude! His son's were fully reponsible adult assasins. They were evil boys who died in a firefight. May they rot in hell.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Nov 30, 2011 - 12:27am PT
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I think I know what's going on here.
LG, is a gov't or liberal troll (who's also prominant in the OWS thread) who is trying to draw out right-wing extremists who would espouse violence.
Nice try.
Most right-wingers are peaceful people who want to be left alone! Look to your bankers, politicians, and lobbyists for crooks before you look here!
We want to be left alone!!!!! F*#k off!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Nov 30, 2011 - 12:45am PT
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There is a political ideology behind the crimes and which motivated the crimes. Fact.
Yeah, and it's Washington, not a party.
This is is why I'm on the Cain-Train. He's an a-political conservative. Newt, Obama, Barney Frank, and even Romney are fools for the parties.
Cain ain't. And that's why they smear him. He represents us first, party second. He's a good guy. All the smears are obvious bullsh#t.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Nov 30, 2011 - 01:01am PT
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LG, I know all about nationalism, NAZI-ism, Islamic radicalism, anti-semitism, and whie-supremeicy. I prolly know more than you on several of those topics, I follow this sh#t. I'm a right-wing Christian.
That said, you have to be open to others who may have more perspective on these issues, and all the issues involved. Wheather it's Jew-bashing or Arab-hate!
After watching all this crap, I tend to agree with you. There seems to be a free-for-all on Jew/Christian hatin'.
What do I do? What I've always done....talk about it. ANd if some people don't like it, they can f*#k off!
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slayton
Trad climber
Here and There
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Nov 30, 2011 - 03:00am PT
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Blue, you writeThat said, you have to be open to others who may have more perspective on these issues, and all the issues involved.
And then you write What do I do? What I've always done....talk about it. ANd if some people don't like it, they can f*#k off!
That doesn't exactly strike me as someone being open to other's perspectives.But then, maybe I'm somehow reading this wrong?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Nov 30, 2011 - 07:36pm PT
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Full post from Slaton's post above;
LG, I know all about nationalism, NAZI-ism, Islamic radicalism, anti-semitism, and whie-supremeicy. I prolly know more than you on several of those topics, I follow this sh#t. I'm a right-wing Christian.
That said, you have to be open to others who may have more perspective on these issues, and all the issues involved. Wheather it's Jew-bashing or Arab-hate!
After watching all this crap, I tend to agree with you. There seems to be a free-for-all on Jew/Christian hatin'.
What do I do? What I've always done....talk about it. ANd if some people don't like it, they can f*#k off!
Slayton, please keep my posts in context.
If someone does not want to talk about differences or why they hate, then yeah, they can go f*#k themselves. I'd rather not resort to throat-cutting or shooting.
But if someone wants to try to understand different points of view before dismissing them, I'll talk. I may disagree in the end, but I'll dialogue about it.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Nov 30, 2011 - 10:59pm PT
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Life is indeed held cheap
When the price demanded for taking them is
"reasonable".
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Anybody who guns down 77 innocent, unarmed people is a murderer. Technically a mass-murderer.
I don't give a f*#k why he did it as long as he's prosecuted as such. Sure he's crazy as a secondary fact legally, but he's a F*#KING MASS-MURDERER PRIMARILY!!! I don't need to hear why he's sick. Try to explain to 77 families why this son of a bitch should live one more day. Could you do that?
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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lg: They will first give him a fair hearing as to whether or not he's insance, in the legal meaning of the word. Apparently there is talk of allowing him to be examined by non-Norwegian psychologists, if he truly wants to argue that he's not insance.
He will have at least something of platform in that there will be a hearing on his mental fitness and capacity. How much use he'll make of it is another matter - courts everywhere tend to squelch such behaviour.
If he's found fit to stand trial, then he may have other opportunities to spew.
We can argue all day about whether it's "just" for him to be treated in this way, but it won't change what has happened or will happen.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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How fit does he really need to be?
All he has to do to stand trial is sit in the courtroom and keep his mouth shut.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jun 21, 2012 - 12:47pm PT
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Here's a summary, in English: http://www.newsinenglish.no/2012/06/21/prosecutors-want-breivik-committed/
The prosecution argued in closing yesterday that there was enough doubt about the murderer's mental health that he should be committed to psychiatric treatment. It's now up to the court to decide if it will be that, or jail with a 21 year sentence, plus (likely) the equivalent of a "dangerous offender" declaration, which would make it unlikely he'd ever be released.
If/when he's finished his sentence, or been successfully treated, a court would have to consider whether he should be released. Possibly decades from now, who can say for sure?
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juar
Sport climber
socal
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Jun 21, 2012 - 08:08pm PT
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BACK to the battlefield?!?!?
90% of those held were entirely uninvolved. simply people who got abducted cuz we were paying for heads.
WE introduced a battlefield to their regular lives
WE instigated the hostilities
WE are the aggressor
this guys manifesto was littered with the bullshit people like you think is gospel
hes your boys,
albeit more exuberant than your honesty can take
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jul 18, 2012 - 04:20pm PT
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One year after terror struck the hearts of Norwegians, the security walls around Oslo’s bombed government complex are gone and plans are in place for an upcoming weekend of memorial events. Sunday July 22nd will feature official speeches, wreath-layings, a large outdoor concert where tens of thousands gathered in sorrow in Oslo last year, and moments of quiet reflection. http://www.newsinenglish.no/2012/07/17/norway-gets-ready-to-remember/
(OK, sorry - it's sort of political. But it is about a country with a lot of mountains.)
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jul 20, 2012 - 12:02pm PT
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Just a few hundred meters away from the scene of Norway’s worst attacks since World War II is a well-preserved message from the war itself. The message may encourage those venturing towards the island of Utøya, either during the first anniversary this weekend of last summer’s terrorist attacks on the island, or anytime.
The "Vi Vil Vinne" (We Will Win) war memorial is located just 200 meters from a makeshift memorial to the victims of the massacre on the island of Utøya last year, and uncannily relevant as Norwegians recover from the tragedy. Various memorial events will be held this weekend, tied to the first anniversary of the terrorist attacks on July 22, 2011. PHOTO: Views and News
Motorists driving north on the narrow road along the Tyrifjord known as Ringeriksveien, just under and paralleling the E16 highway, will encounter the message on the way to Utvika and the mainland dock for Utøya. It amounts to three words painted on the asphalt in the middle of the road: Vi Vil Vinne (We Will Win), with emphasis on the capital “Vs” for victory.
They were first painted, illegally, by three young men from Oslo in 1941, a year after Norway was invaded by Nazi Germany. The trio – brothers Henrik and Frans Aubert and their friend Egil Breen – unwittingly or not thus created an important symbol for the Norwegian resistance movement (Hjemmefronten, the home front) as they battled Nazi forces. http://www.newsinenglish.no/2012/07/18/encouraging-words-as-utoya-memorials-loom/
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