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Daniel Eubank
Sport climber
Woodbridge, VA
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 27, 2010 - 08:04am PT
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The Washington Post babbled again today about Obama inheriting a huge deficit from Bush. Amazingly enough,..... a lot of people swallow this nonsense. So once more, a short civics lesson.
Budgets do not come from the White House. They come from Congress, and the party that controlled Congress since January 2007 is the Democrat Party. They controlled the budget process for FY 2008 and FY 2009, as well as FY 2010 and FY 2011. In that first year, they had to contend with George Bush, which caused them to compromise on spending, when Bush somewhat belatedly got tough on spending increases.
For FY 2009 though, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid bypassed George Bush entirely, passing continuing resolutions to keep government running until Barack Obama could take office. At that time, they passed a massive omnibus spending bill to complete the FY 2009 budgets..
And where was Barack Obama during this time? He was a member of that very Congress that passed all of these massive spending bills, and he signed the omnibus bill as President to complete FY 2009. Let's remember what the deficits looked like during that period:
If the Democrats inherited any deficit, it was the FY 2007 deficit, the last of the Republican budgets. That deficit was the lowest in five years, and the fourth straight decline in deficit spending. After that, Democrats in Congress took control of spending, and that includes Barack Obama, who voted for the budgets. If Obama inherited anything, he inherited it from himself.
In a nutshell, what Obama is saying is I inherited a deficit that I voted for and then I voted to expand that deficit four-fold since January 20th.
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Daniel Eubank
Sport climber
Woodbridge, VA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 9, 2010 - 02:24pm PT
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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God forbid this thread makes whoopie with the other thread and we have political babies. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
I wonder if we will every have an actual conversation.
I hate the shotgun approach of political debate.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Why is it that when the conservative's hero Dubya was in office there was a lot of funny satire and cartoons at his expense. But when they try to make fun of Obama is just comes off as mean spirited whining?
Obama would be EASY to make fun of, but I guess that would require a good sense of humor. Something right wingers seem to lack.
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corniss chopper
Mountain climber
san jose, ca
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Daniel Eubank - good stuff. The Democrats are just a bunch of plunderers
who seek to live off the work of others.
Obama's Spread the Wealth statement confirms his true Liberal philosophy: Take what you can! Give nothing back.
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Douglas Rhiner
Mountain climber
Truckee , CA
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Take what you can! Give nothing back.
That is what the greedy republicans are doing right now.
Goose...gander.....
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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I'm making a vow. No more responding to Eubanks threads. He's just a faceless tool incapable of contributing anything other than cut and paste bullshit from polititard right wing sources. Even taking into consideration the vast amount of drivel tossed out on this site by some, the man contributes NOTHING. He's just a pussy. Someone who starts controversy but isn't man enough to participate in the debate he creates. Pathetic.
As much as I dislike Fatty, at least he provides his own personal thoughts.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Fatty is a GOOD guy. He even sees through some of the Republican BS on the environment, evolution, etc. Some day he may even see that an even greater percentage of the Republican politicians are corrupt and self serving compared to the Dems.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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You're the Aunt Fanny's Pantry of evil. ;-)
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Daniel Eubank
Sport climber
Woodbridge, VA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 10, 2010 - 08:25am PT
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Nice troll Fat Dad.
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Daniel Eubank
Sport climber
Woodbridge, VA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 18, 2011 - 03:23pm PT
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Did you know that if you sell your house after 2012 you will pay a 3.8% sales tax on it? That's $3,800 on a $100,000 home etc.
When did this happen? It's in the health care bill. Just thought you should know.
SALES TAX TO GO INTO EFFECT 2013 (Part of HC Bill) Why 2013? Could it be to come to light AFTER the 2012 Elections?
REAL ESTATE SALES TAX
So, this is "change you can believe in."
Under the new health care bill - did you know that all real estate transactions will be subject to a 3.8% Sales Tax? The bulk of these new taxes don't kick in until 2013 If you sell your $400,000 home, there will be a $15,200 tax. This bill is set to screw the retiring generation who often downsize their homes. Does this stuff make your November and 2012 vote more important?
Oh, you weren't aware this was in the obamacare bill? Guess what, you aren't alone. There are more than a few members of Congress that aren't aware of it either. Click on this to verify.
http://www.gop.gov/blog/10/04/08/obamacare-flatlines-obamacare-taxes-home
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dirtbag
climber
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Jan 18, 2011 - 03:25pm PT
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Trollbank is back!
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jan 18, 2011 - 03:29pm PT
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So, bonky, what's your thoughts about Romney-care, or as some call it, Republican-care?
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corniss chopper
climber
not my real name
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Jan 18, 2011 - 03:40pm PT
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Recount Democrat beliefs one by one you'll get a mere random
catalog of insanity.
Lets consider what the Left believes.
Democrats believe in killing babies and old people
..but not murderers -- murderers will get a "time out" and a chance to speak at the graduation ceremony of a prominent liberal arts college.
Democrats believe in poverty programs. The more programs, the more poverty. And poor people vote for Democrats.
Being rich is no fair. Democrats believe in fairness and will force you to give up your money via higher taxes.
Democrats believe minorities are stupid and helpless (and no fair counting Asians as minorities).
Yes Democrats do believe in gun control, even though playground gunshot injuries are a proven vote-getter. Go figure.
http://www.federalistjournal.com/columns/orourke080700.htm
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jan 18, 2011 - 03:56pm PT
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Daniel, you are intentionally not telling the truth.
From your own work in seeking first the truth and details behind partisan motivated internet "rumors", you know full well that you have posted a falsehood.
please show your Snopes debunking along with your personal opinion:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/realestate.asp
More from URGAN LEGENDS:
Email contributed by Barbara M., July 8, 2010:
FW: New Real Estate Sales Tax
Under the new health care bill all real estate transactions will be subject to a 3.8% Sales Tax. The bulk of these new taxes don’t kick in until 2013 (presumably after Obama’s re-election). You can thank Nancy, Harry and Barack and your local Democrat Congressman for this one. If you sell your $400,000 home, there will be a $15,200 tax. This bill is set to screw the retiring generation who often downsize their homes. Is this "Hope & Change" great or what? We can vote the bums out in November and demand that they eliminate the bill or at the very least defund it. Then in 2012 repeal it.
Analysis: While not completely false, this message does convey the erroneous impression that the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010 imposes a 3.8% sales tax on all real estate transactions.
It doesn't. Here's the real scoop, based on the best analyses I can find:
Among the several new taxes and tax increases provided for in the final legislation (see Kiplinger for a concise summary) is a 3.8% tax on investment income for "high earners" only. Revenues from the tax, which goes into effect in 2013, will be dedicated to the Medicare Trust Fund.
"High earners" are defined as individuals whose gross income is $200,000 or more, or married couples filing jointly with a combined gross income of $250,000 or more.
Moreover, the tax doesn't apply to the first $250,000 of unearned income for individual taxpayers (or $500,000 for married couples filing jointly).
Given that most taxpayers make less than $200,000 per year and most home sales don't clear profits exceeding $200,000, the vast majority of Americans won't subject to this tax.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jan 18, 2011 - 03:59pm PT
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So Mr. Eubank, you say you're from Woodbridge, Virginia. A town 30 km south of Washington, D.C. It seems pretty clear that it's a government town, both directly (government-military-industrial complex) and indirectly (commuters). What part of the government do you work for? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodbridge,_Virginia
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Douglas Rhiner
Mountain climber
Truckee , CA
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Jan 18, 2011 - 04:20pm PT
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Hes a retired, bitter old man.
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Jan 18, 2011 - 05:43pm PT
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i voted for obama....i like some of the provisions of the healthcare law....but that 3.8% thing is BullSh#t,....i am currently building my own home which someday i hope to make lots of money selling it after a year of sweat equity while i keep my dayjob. and the government wants that 3.8% for Medical crap? BS i say. indefensible whether you love or hate obama....
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