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Binks
Social climber
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Mar 22, 2010 - 11:00pm PT
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My wife and I wil pay something like 55 -60K of taxes for 2009. If some of this does not end up helping Americans I will be royally pissed off. Otherwise, what am I paying it for? Another dumbass war favored by investment bankers on the board of aipac? It looks to me like I'm paying for dumbass neocon wars financed in China on the backs of the middle class. If the system is going to go bust, so be it, but let it bust on people refusing to pay for that CRAP, not on health care and social security for regular folks.
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nature
climber
Tucson, AZ
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Mar 22, 2010 - 11:01pm PT
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but I'm knott a pinko-commie tree hugging hippy daughter.
how can it be me?
oh I see it now.... It's Binks that has the daughter that is a tree hugger and a pinko and a commie. Or maybe she just likes Barbie Dolls in Pink? (I get the two mixed up often).
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Mar 22, 2010 - 11:04pm PT
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Also I have to say it's pretty douchy of people like you bluering who pretend that jobs with benefits grow on trees
No, but they aren't hard to find if you aren't anti-corporatist or anti-business.
and those who don't have them are simply too lazy to pluck one off,
Just fiercley independent and anti-business/corporation. Fine if you want that, just don't bitch and whine when you don't get the 'communal perks' of pooling resources in a corporate environment. If you wanna be an independent person, fine, you're 'independent' also...remember????
particularly in a time of 10% unemployment.
And that came about under who's watch???? Be careful about blaming Bush on this too! That can be played against you fools......
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nature
climber
Tucson, AZ
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Mar 22, 2010 - 11:06pm PT
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And that came about under who's watch???? Be careful about blaming Bush on this too! That can be played against you fools......
yes... how silly of us fools. Unemployment was down to what 2-3% and then Osama... errr... Obama took office and it shot to 10% because he was sworn in. I'm such a fool.
Blue... you don't actually blame Obama for 10%. Do you?
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Binks
Social climber
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Mar 22, 2010 - 11:06pm PT
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communal perks' of pooling resources in a corporate environment
I think you mean the feudal perks.
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UncleDoug
Mountain climber
Places unkown
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Mar 22, 2010 - 11:09pm PT
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EDIT:
And of course Bluey would not take the Cobra subsidy cuz that's what a commie would do.
I might, but unlike you other losers, I'd try to take care of myself first. Find a job with benefits. Duh?
For being "up" on current events, I find it interesting that you feel confident in the ability to find a job with benefits - even by busting your ass - in the current economic climate.
I know several individuals that could out perform you in every facet of life/existence, yes even climbing, yet they are having one heck of a time finding the "golden ring" of a job you could grab.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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Mar 22, 2010 - 11:11pm PT
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What has been missed in the debate thus far which should have been emphasized more is that over the long run this new system should actually save us all a pile of money because people will actually be able to get EARLY TREATMENT for diseases that cost piles of money in the long run when left untreated until late. We will also see the average life expectancy rise as a result of this.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Mar 22, 2010 - 11:15pm PT
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Blue... you don't actually blame Obama for 10%. Do you?
Who would you blame, Johnson? Freddie, Fannie, Barney Franks? Chris Dodd? Bush? Congress?
Be specific. Let's quit tossing hyperbole.
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Black people just can't manage money I guess.
You illustrate exactly why Dems and liberals are inherently racist. Sh#t like that! I never said that.
You idiots glean all subjects based on race. What does that make you?
A racist? You look at everything in terms of race instead of PERSONAL MERIT.
Fools.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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Mar 22, 2010 - 11:15pm PT
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"Let's quit tossing hyperbole."
Ahahahahashaha
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nature
climber
Tucson, AZ
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Mar 22, 2010 - 11:19pm PT
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Is it not obvious - I of course blame Bush AND his administration. Who do you blame?
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Mar 22, 2010 - 11:19pm PT
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if americans had a soul, instead of a need for greed, then half our problems would be solved.
greedy people who sue doctors for insane amounts of money,
greedy lawyers who get stupid judges to agree to multi million dollar mal practice suits,
greedy pill companies who take billions of dollars from the economy,
greedy insurance companies like blue shield increasing rates 1000 percent,
i use to pay 40 bucks for an office visit.
can't even buy a band aid for that now days.
yeah, lets just leave health care the way it is.
until we get sick at least.
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mrtropy
Trad climber
Nor Cal
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 22, 2010 - 11:35pm PT
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DR Spock you hit the nail on the head this bill will do little to change things for average person. Let's hit my first 300 post.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Mar 22, 2010 - 11:36pm PT
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Also, as I stated, your insurance company now actually has a stake in keeping you healthy which means they might bother to help keep you that way.
I am curious how an insurance company can keep you healthy.
Isn't that largely up to things out of their control like how you eat, your drug, alchohol and smoking choices, etc.? How much you exercise? Where does insurance factor into this, except if it's a government program to give health away?
What a joke.
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mrtropy
Trad climber
Nor Cal
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 22, 2010 - 11:42pm PT
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Insurance companies do not give a Fucck about you!!! Anyone that thinks they care any thing about anything thing is stupid. That why this Heath Care Reform is a joke the insurance companies do are not fighting it so the bottom line rules ask FAT TRAD.. One more post...
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Mar 22, 2010 - 11:43pm PT
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K-wrote: What a joke.
No is not a joke...insurance companies are not in the business of prevented medicine and education on a healthy life style...they just take your money.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Mar 22, 2010 - 11:48pm PT
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Blue wrote: You illustrate exactly why Dems and liberals are inherently racist. Sh#t like that! I never said that.
You idiots glean all subjects based on race. What does that make you?
A racist? You look at everything in terms of race instead of PERSONAL MERIT.
Fools.
So in a little more that three sentences Blue managed to call most on this thread a racist (two times), a fool and an idiot.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Mar 23, 2010 - 12:04am PT
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And Wes calls my posts 'propagandist trolls'....
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Mar 23, 2010 - 12:07am PT
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Wes...I think that guy is on the three a day "triple Wendy's" program.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Mar 23, 2010 - 12:07am PT
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Insurance companies do not give a Fucck about you!!!
You think your Obama gov't gives a crap about you? They only care about your tax money. Fool!
You really think he gives a crap, like he says????
Fool.
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franky
Trad climber
Bishop, CA
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Mar 23, 2010 - 12:11am PT
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hey bluering...
you're really an as#@&%e man.. I mean, really honestly. You're an as#@&%e. What a bummer, that sucks.
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