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jstan
climber
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Mr. Drummond has manipulated us, egregiously.
But I suppose embarassment is a small price to pay for something like Roger's superb Monty Python bit.
It is an ill wind that blows no one any good.
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Yeah, Joe... I wonder. Does the whole arrangement just ratchet up several notches, all things seeming the same --- 5.11 is the new 5.8??---or is there something much wilder going on, when the top grade goes from 5.11 to 5.15? It is hard to believe that 5.11 could seem like the 5.8 of 1972, but then again if you have watched 5.11 being dispatched by top climbers today, it really does look like the person is doing 5.8!
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Norwegian
Trad climber
Placerville, California
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wind is ill when it is still.
movement ignites search which leads to change,
and growth prevails.
for the youth not to stretch upheld and stagnant standards according to his neon dreams, a surrender to complacency must take place.
"stand still alex. curb your dreams. betray your path because of my fears."
pooey. let thrive that boy.
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donh
Social climber
los angeles,ca
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hi ed
i was thinking about your epic 'first ascent' of the statue of liberty.
did you summit? and if so, who topped out first you or stephen?
rip: Elmer 'Geronimo' Pratt
thanks
don
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throwpie
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Find an old copy of I can't remember which issue of Ascent and read "Mirror Mirror" by Mr. Drummond. Fantastic stuff. i don't feel his comments were out of line...seemed like good advice to me. But Alex is the master of his own ship, sailing on an ocean I can't fathom.
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Jan 20, 2014 - 09:58am PT
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Said upthread: "There are two kinds of climbers, BOLD climbers or OLD climbers, not both."
I disagree as I see plenty of both still around. The list of old bold climbers would be very long. A few have posted upthread, some don't even speak english, plenty of Euros who would fill the bill of being old and bold. What is old anyway? Is Peter Croft old yet at mid 50's+ or so?
(ps, way to stir up a shitstorm again Randisis LOL)
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
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Jan 20, 2014 - 01:01pm PT
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No Dave, not at all, but there is the option of gender, finally.
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go-B
climber
Romans 5:8
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Jan 20, 2014 - 01:40pm PT
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All I got to say is, "TENSION"!
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Jan 20, 2014 - 01:50pm PT
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As an acquaintance of Alex I know him a little and I doubt he will ever read this thread. He is better than most about not wasting time looking at screens.
I don't blame people for throwing out warnings, I think it's good for people to speak their mind and share their experience. And I think the message stands repeating because it's easy to get caught up in things and get carried away and do something you shouldn't do.
However Alex has an excellent grasp of what he is doing and a great head on his shoulders. I doubt he'd do something he wouldn't do if the cameras weren't rolling.
It will be interesting to see where his climbing career goes. He has huge talent, motivation, and is very smart. The big free solos naturally are limited in number. It's wasn't surprising in a way that one of his next huge accomplishments was the triple crown. Not pure free soloing, but using that talent to pull off the next step in rock climbing. Not surprising that it was his next step, but very surprising that a human could accomplish that. I can't even fathom hiking to the top of those three formations in a day.
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FTOR
Sport climber
CA
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Jan 20, 2014 - 02:03pm PT
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when i was soloing a lot there was always this feeling of invincibility. i could do no wrong. there was also the deep down acceptance that i really didn't care, life or death. i was never in the big leagues of soloing but wouldn't think much of vert mile days, just a chalk bag and shoes. the best climbing of my life.
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patrick compton
Trad climber
van
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Jan 20, 2014 - 02:11pm PT
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this isn't 1885, people dont send telegrams anymore
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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Nov 22, 2014 - 09:01am PT
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Did someone at Clif Bar read this thread?
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Nov 22, 2014 - 09:11am PT
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Remember how Rome did it.
Bread and circuses.
Lots of blood and dead gladiators.
They all accepted the risk, pretty much, that they would die in combat.
Plus ca change...
(I know very well some were only slaves, but generally they went into the arena under their own will power, following Fortuna.)
Oh, the drama!
Alex gets up. Brushes his teeth. Goes to work. BIG DEAL! He's okay with what he's doing. Lighten the hell up, here, guys. He's actually HAPPY doing what he's doing, and it IS entertaining.
Edwin, don't please be such a wuss.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Nov 22, 2014 - 10:50am PT
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Drama, irony, suspense...MooseLucky, we're in the zone.
Split a Clif Bar? I'm actually more in the mood for popcorn, though.
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
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Nov 22, 2014 - 11:15am PT
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I fell for it again.....thinking this was a new thread at first! Anyway, I made an entry in my journal about the NYT thread that is here at ST. I said that I made some stupid posts about Alex and Clif Bars. Nuf said. Am looking forward to those memoirs he's working on! Climb on!
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Nov 22, 2014 - 02:30pm PT
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Jebus Schist, I hope nothing breaks.
schist
SHist/Submit
nounGEOLOGY
a coarse-grained metamorphic rock that consists of layers of different minerals and can be split into thin irregular plates.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Nov 22, 2014 - 04:32pm PT
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Always wondered why someone else wants to tell somebody how to live his life.
-Harry Houdini
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nah000
climber
canuckistan
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Nov 22, 2014 - 04:51pm PT
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'Hubris:’ the country of no old men...
quite the ironic quote embedded in the initial post.
pretty sure that writing a public letter to another human telling him/er what s/he is or isn't capable of, is one of the defining examples of hubris...
so more correctly it should have been:
'Hubris:' the country of at least one old man...
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