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Klimmer
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 17, 2012 - 03:56pm PT
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Apr 17, 2012 - 09:07am PT
a good example of how faith in jesus and faith in government will lead you astray here can be found in the piney woods, texas, ufo incident of december, 1980. are you familiar with this, glenn? you should be.
three innocent american civilians, driving down a country road at night. the mofo gets in their face. there are helicopters around it. they come away with radiation burns and sickness. one was so devout she thought it was the end of the world, and she expected to see jesus come out of the diamond-shaped light, so she made the mistake of staring at it.
it was probably a nuclear-based experimental technology with something going wrong with it. it became apparent that the government was involved, but the government wouldn't admit it or accept any responsibility. one of the victims, betty cash, sued. give her credit for spirit and spunk, glenn. that's what life is about. she was never well again, and died several years later.
Tony,
Yes I'm a little familiar with that UFO case.
I have no doubt that our US government, the shadow government, the black hats, know exactly what is going on. They intentionally hide the UFO/ET phenomenon and what they haven't been given directly by ETs, they back engineer.
Not all UFOs are "ET." Many are perhaps our own back engineered UFO/ET technology piloted by our very own secret astronaut corp. The young gentleman from the UK, Gary McKinnon?, that the US government wants to extradite to the US bumped into UFO evidence in images and the list of "off-world" astronauts, none of whom were in the official NASA astronaut corp on Pentagon computers. There is really a great deal of evidence that "we have incredible technology that literally can take ET home," that the shadow government hides from us, and the world.
Project Camelot has great interviews with those that are very knowledgeable about all of this technology. I've posted those links before.
The US shadow government has done unspeakable things to citizens of the USA as well as citizens from other nations.
Not all are corrupt though. There are white hats throughout our government who do and try to do the right moral thing everyday. If it were not for brave people like they are we would be in far worse condition Constitutionally.
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lostinshanghai
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Apr 17, 2012 - 04:23pm PT
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Funny that when I sent that respond the second section about Homeland Security went bold, I did not do it maybe it went all of its own or just could be DHS making their point.
Klimmer at least you are focused on one issue for now. Can’t count all your conspiracies been so many and really could care less in taking the time to look back on all of them. I remember one that you had mentioned about the secret rocket that was launched from LA and you had your thoughts about what was going on but I gave you a clue: some latitudes and longitudes.
Lat 33° 14’ 13.7 N Long 119° 28’ 22 W
Did you ever look them up, ever find what is there; no you never did. Interesting what you might find there.
But you seek the truth maybe you are looking in the wrong place.
“And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free” carved in stone at the headquarters of the CIA.
Taken from the bible: “And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free”. (John 8:32)
Just that they have conveniently left out the entire quote from Jesus, which starts from 8:31 and says “If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples, and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free”
I think that was just before when the Jews were asking the question then they started to throw stones at him.
As for finding the truth are they/we, you seeking it or destroying it, and as for the truth making us free; does it?
I say no because we will never know.
Just on the news yesterday pilot mistakenly thought the planet Venus was an aircraft and then sent the airliner into a nosedive toward the Atlantic to avoid an imaginary collision with another plane. How about the other one last week a captain suffered a breakdown and reportedly began screaming about terrorism before being subdued by passengers.
Maybe they both need a break or some sleep.
Yesterday met a Irag Vet had a t-shirt on and on the back of it was the operation he was in and had small inscription "we hunt humans" so we get into a discussion and we both agreed what lies in the future. He said to me when the guys are redeployed or finished their tour that thier commanding officers say to them when you get home you might be finding yourself fighting and killing your fellow Americans someday soon.
We both said to each other before we left: Good luck and Stay safe.
So sing your anthem; many have just hate to you to end up this way. Self-confessed mass killer Anders Behring Breivik told his trial in Norway Tuesday that he was motivated by "goodness, not evil" and said, "I would have done it again.
Hey! at least you follow ACLU so you get a + point for that. That's where I would spend my time on.
Edit: ACLU just do not like nut cases or avoid them since they need reason and good judgment.
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Tony Bird
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Apr 17, 2012 - 06:03pm PT
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Hey Klimmer, aren't you ex military as well? LOL!
Thanks to JH for his service in Vietnam and his outstanding contributions here.
He said to me when the guys are redeployed or finished their tour that thier commanding officers say to them when you get home you might be finding yourself fighting and killing your fellow Americans someday soon.
haha--the first question is, "whose side are you on?"
the next question is, "what are you on?"
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lostinshanghai
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Apr 17, 2012 - 06:18pm PT
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haha--the first question is, "whose side are you on?"
Easy question: choose your colour: Blue or Red. Each state is colored now; so move in one or get out of the other.
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Klimmer
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San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 17, 2012 - 06:19pm PT
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Apr 17, 2012 - 01:23pm PT
Funny that when I sent that respond the second section about Homeland Security went bold, I did not do it maybe it went all of its own or just could be DHS making their point.
Klimmer at least you are focused on one issue for now. Can’t count all your conspiracies been so many and really could care less in taking the time to look back on all of them. I remember one that you had mentioned about the secret rocket that was launched from LA and you had your thoughts about what was going on but I gave you a clue: some latitudes and longitudes.
Lat 33° 14’ 13.7 N Long 119° 28’ 22 W
Did you ever look them up, ever find what is there; no you never did. Interesting what you might find there.
But you seek the truth maybe you are looking in the wrong place.
“And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free” carved in stone at the headquarters of the CIA.
Taken from the bible: “And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free”. (John 8:32)
Just that they have conveniently left out the entire quote from Jesus, which starts from 8:31 and says “If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples, and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free”
I think that was just before when the Jews were asking the question then they started to throw stones at him.
As for finding the truth are they/we, you seeking it or destroying it, and as for the truth making us free; does it?
I say no because we will never know.
Just on the news yesterday pilot mistakenly thought the planet Venus was an aircraft and then sent the airliner into a nosedive toward the Atlantic to avoid an imaginary collision with another plane. How about the other one last week a captain suffered a breakdown and reportedly began screaming about terrorism before being subdued by passengers.
Maybe they both need a break or some sleep.
Yesterday met a Irag Vet had a t-shirt on and on the back of it was the operation he was in and had small inscription "we hunt humans" so we get into a discussion and we both agreed what lies in the future. He said to me when the guys are redeployed or finished their tour that thier commanding officers say to them when you get home you might be finding yourself fighting and killing your fellow Americans someday soon.
We both said to each other before we left: Good luck and Stay safe.
So sing your anthem; many have just hate to you to end up this way. Self-confessed mass killer Anders Behring Breivik told his trial in Norway Tuesday that he was motivated by "goodness, not evil" and said, "I would have done it again.
Hey! at least you follow ACLU so you get a + point for that. That's where I would spend my time on.
Edit: ACLU just do not like nut cases or avoid them since they need reason and good judgment.
Lost,
I will get back to you, when I have time. Little league baseball calls my name.
Wow. Some scary stuff there I'm gonna have to respond to.
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Tony Bird
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Northridge, CA
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Apr 17, 2012 - 06:57pm PT
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currently reading hunt for the skinwalker by colm kelleher and george knapp. las vegas people will know knapp. it'd be interesting to hear from uintah mountaineers on this subject.
"hey, that's some scary sh#t." -- the nutty professor
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lostinshanghai
Social climber
someplace
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Apr 17, 2012 - 07:59pm PT
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Just on example of military hardware going to local LEO in the country. Since this a climbing thread. What ever happened to the ark I guess is long gone and now taken over by God and the Army? the US Army or the Army of God.
San Francisco PD got $325,000 in climbing gear from Uncle Sam for 50 people couple of years back. Let's see divide and you get $6,500 of ? what kind of equipment for each climber or want a-be climbers.
Climbing? Climbing what and where in SF.
Rapping I can see: a H-3 helicopter lands on top of the old Bank of America Center also known as Triple Nickel building on 555 California St, not the highest then four SWAT “Elite Climbing Team” raps down to the 23 floor crashes through the windows and sprays the room with 3-400 rounds of 5.56mm rounds. Opps! Wrong room, they jug back up, move back into position and rap again then take out the person holding the hostage and her baby in one swoop on the 13th floor. A Cobra is used as back up just in case more armaments are needed. Call comes in there are Wall Street protestors on Market Street and the police kindly say remove yourselves from the streets or get sprayed with high fire 35,000 round cannon mounted on both sides to fire rubber bullets from the aircraft above you.
So look at it this way, they are going to look for instructor’s maybe they have already but if you do get a call by all means take or make the most of it and say no less than $850.00 an hour,expenses,lodging,leave time, food/beer/wine/wiskey and prostitutes. If they disagree negotiate on the prostitutes and make it tittie bars.
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healyje
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Portland, Oregon
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Apr 18, 2012 - 02:53am PT
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...and people just wanting to know the truth.
You mean fabricate an enduring matrix of bullshit that propogates nutjob to nutjob over the internet like waves in a tank that is constantly agitated by people who long ago lost their ability to recognize or distinguish the truth.
Nothing is sadder as a technologist then to look out over the potential of the internet only to find it swamped with porn, paranormal bullsh#t, and religious poison. As risks to our nation goes, I personally rank this form of corruption of mind as dangerous as the likes of rightwing media and the tea party.
In fact, the media mechanics of your whole paranormal shtick and stock-in-trade is now virtually indistinguishable from what rightwing media jocks and Rovian political operators who every day work to divide this nation. No different in the way they know when they plant their particular poison it will spread from mouth-to-mouth reverberating their agenda across the internet among those who without the common sense to see their bullshit for what it is.
So here I remain and will be saddling you with the conintel of common sense as an agent of the rational and the obvious.
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WBraun
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Apr 18, 2012 - 11:18am PT
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who long ago lost their ability to recognize or distinguish the truth.
Another "Absolute" by the proponent of "there's no absolute truth"
There's no escape .......
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Tony Bird
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Northridge, CA
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Apr 18, 2012 - 02:02pm PT
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glenn, you should take a real close look at hunt for the skinwalker.
tom gorman, the main mover in that account--his real name, now released, being terry sherman--is a religious-enough mormon rancher, but probably more rancher than mormon. he didn't deal with your "deceiver" by praying to jesus, at least directly, or with crosses, incantations or exorcisms. he was just plain stubborn. he had a spread, he had prize cattle, and when his family had to move away for their own peace of mind, he stayed on as manager and assisted the researchers. you're not looking at devils here, you're looking at a larger reality which everyone, sooner or later, will learn about.
bmacd would be interested in the book's discussion of paranormal aspects of sasquatch.
cintune, who posted an interesting link on other dimensions upthread, might be interested too. many anecdotes at that ranch--i know "anecdote" is a dirty word--strongly suggest the "interdimensional".
cintune's dimension guy lost me going from the 5th dimension to the 6th. seems like you could revisit your past and go to the future--all you really need to do, right?--messing with the 4th dimension (time) from a position in the theoretical 5th. what am i missing? i'm afraid i find "string theory tells us" about as convincing as "the bible tells us".
healbro is finally putting some of his cards on the table. i think he's on a mission here, just like glenn. missionaries arrive with their heads full of their own beliefs, and the strongest belief of all is that the natives don't know sh#t.
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healyje
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Portland, Oregon
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Apr 18, 2012 - 02:49pm PT
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Well, as someone married to an enrolled member of the Colville Tribe I can assure you the 'natives' are way up on the truth.
For several hundred years Native Americans have been subjected to exactly same sort of myth, misinformation, media manipulation, demonization, and bullshit that goes down in this thread daily. The genocide of Native Americans has been supported from day one by just this sort of rampant fear, unsupported speculation, rumors, heresay, unadulterated fiction, fantasy, and flat out lies.
A perfect example of exactly why I consider this sort of bullshit so dangerous.
[ P.S. Skinwalker Ranch: really? That place was a majestic piece of PR work and a veritable Branson of paranormal activity. If you could associate it with the word 'paranormal' then it happened there. The odds would have made W.C. Fields and P.T. Barnum proud. ]
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Tony Bird
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Apr 18, 2012 - 04:06pm PT
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natives didn't have media manipulation before white man, tonto.
if it might help, i've been married to a japanese for 28 years, and i am daily reminded how little i know about japan.
the skinwalker effort attracted a "pigmalion" award from illustrious fluffball james randi, who holds a phd in parlor tricks from the alice cooper institute. randi did not volunteer to live on the ranch for a few months, which really might have debunked it. it's interesting that randi has never picked on hynek or vallee. sometimes little people run out of little targets. i think the book itself deals credibly with the media circus it inspired.
one reason i bought hunt for the skinwalker was the involvement of george knapp, whose journalistic skills seem to have been boiled hard. here's knapp's part of the forward as to why he got involved:
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Tony Bird
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Apr 18, 2012 - 07:25pm PT
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healyje
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Portland, Oregon
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Apr 18, 2012 - 08:58pm PT
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natives didn't have media manipulation before white man, tonto.
Read it again dude, Native Americans weren't doing the manipulating - the European and American media of the day such as it has been from the 1400 to the present day have done the manipulating.
And Knapp is one of many folks who have sought to monetize the paranormal. And what a coincidence the Skinwalker PR machine was established after Bigelow bought the place and and Knapp joined the NDIS after a stint at a PR firm.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 19, 2012 - 12:03am PT
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Yesterday met a Irag Vet had a t-shirt on and on the back of it was the operation he was in and had small inscription "we hunt humans" so we get into a discussion and we both agreed what lies in the future. He said to me when the guys are redeployed or finished their tour that thier commanding officers say to them when you get home you might be finding yourself fighting and killing your fellow Americans someday soon.
We both said to each other before we left: Good luck and Stay safe.
Lost and HJ,
It seems you're both US veterans, am I right? Right-wing and can't tolerate others thinking outside the box. Sad really.
Lost,
What you have to say really is absolutely dangerous and absolutely nuts. If you're OK with our US military service shooting at and killing our own US citizens, seek therapy and help immediately. It seems you are on the edge and ready to topple off it. Like I said I'll stick flowers with stems in your gun barrel and pray for you.
HJ,
Seems you can't fathom or stand the thought that people want to talk about interesting ideas and beliefs, and like to ask deep questions, regardless how "out-there" it all sounds like and seems. Many of us don't see eye-to-eye, but at least I'm being respectful. Most of us who are talking about these ideas and beliefs are. Those who think these ideas and beliefs are nuts, are intolerant, unbelievably rude, throwing out ad hominem attacks constantly, and threatening.
I'm not doing that to anyone. You can sit-back and think it's all as serious as someone talking about Santa Claus, The Easter Bunny, or Leprechauns. So be it. That's your opinion. I'm not threatening anyone. The message of Jesus Christ isn't threatening. Emmanuel's message is about peace, love, and hope. UFOs/ET are a part of this discussion, because the Good Book has a great deal to say about them. Just watch Ancient Aliens on The History Channel if you don't think so.
Perhaps talking about truth and trying to wrestle it out intellectually you feel threatened by that? So then simply don't click on this thread. Go away and leave others alone.
If you and Lost continue doing what you do, both of you are just coming across as intolerant and narrow minded right-wing bullies, and dangerous ones at that.
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Tony Bird
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Apr 19, 2012 - 11:07am PT
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i have to thank you, healyje, for the colville reference, which led me to come across the remarkable art of joe feddersen.
perhaps not unrelated, we find a remarkable artist, edward carlos, featured in one of john mack's books.
louis l'amour: the haunted mesa. strictly fiction, of course.
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lostinshanghai
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Apr 19, 2012 - 01:04pm PT
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Klimmer,
I am not going to take the time to tell you what is happing but the military as well as local LEO are well aware of the treat of rightwing militias, others are hate groups, another group are the conspiracies nuts about our government hiding information.
Americans are sheep you are one of them.
April 19 2012 [There is already a thread on Ted Nugent on ST].
WASHINGTON - Rocker and gun-rights champion Ted Nugent says he will meet today with the Secret Service to explain his raucous remarks about what he called President Obama's "evil, America-hating administration" - comments some critics interpreted as a threat against the president.
"The conclusion will be obvious that I threatened no one," Nugent told radio interviewer Glenn Beck on Wednesday. Nugent said he'd been contacted by the agency and would cooperate fully even though he found the complaints "silly."
The controversy erupted after the self-styled "Motor City Madman" made an impassioned plea for support for Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney during the National Rifle Association meeting in St. Louis last weekend. "We need to ride into that battlefield and chop their heads off in November," Nugent said of the Obama administration.
He also included a cryptic pronouncement: "If Barack Obama becomes the next president in November, again, I will either be dead or in jail by this time next year."
Here is just one that feels/thoughts about our election soon to come.
Let’s define extremists:
Extremism is usually contrasted with moderation, and extremists with moderates. (For example, in contemporary discussions in Western countries of Islam, or of Islamic political movements, it is common for there to be a heavy stress on the distinction between extremist and moderate Muslims. It is also not uncommon to necessarily define distinctions regarding extremist Christians as opposed to moderate Christians, as in countries such as the United States.
Political agendas perceived as extremist often include those from the far left or far right as well as fundamentalism or fanaticism.
The term extremism is almost invariably used pejoratively; however the term may also sometimes be associated with person(s) who have different view(s) which is not consistent with the existing norm(s). It need not necessarily imply that the person is a threat to the society or the government or any other agency, but the underlying fact is that there is a totally new and unique perception of the person about life, politics or any other agenda.
What the hell I looked it up for you:
Extremist Groups in the United States
Animal Liberation Front (ALF)
Army of God
Aryan Nations
Black Panther Party (BPP)
Black Liberation Army (BLF)
Christian-Patriots Defense League (CPDL)
Christian Defense League (CDL)
Christian Identity Movement (CIM)
Church of the Creator (COTC)
Church of Scientology (COS)
Commandos L
Concerned Christians
The Covenant, The Sword, and the Arm of the Lord (CSAL)
Cuban Liberator Army (CLA)
Earth First!
Earth Liberation Front (ELF)
Freemen
Fuerzas Armadas de Liberation Nacional (FALN)
Jewish Defence League (JDL)
Ku Klux Klan (KKK)
The Minutemen
Neo Nazi National Alliance
New Afrika (NA)
New Black Panther Party
New World Liberation Front NWLF
Revolutionary Alliance of (Neo)Trinitarian Youth (REALITY)
Republic of Texas
Symbionese Liberation Army
Westboro Baptist Church
World Church of the Creator
There are an additional 13 on the list, need to find them, they keep popping up more everyday from either hate or what the outcome might be from our upcoming election. I hope that Americans do not but the more I hear from people is their stupid rants because they lack information and are ignorant pretty much like you.
No, I am not rightwing; I write and publish papers [sorry not for the public to see] to protect assets [Structures and innocent people from harm] so that these idiots [fanatics] just like you don’t go over the deep end.
My personal feeling you are loosing it, maybe you are not a threat but feel at sometime all of your imaginary thoughts will get the best of you. Just make sure you take your vitamins.
So keep singing: Onward Christians soldiers marching to war: one doctrine and for evermore.
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Klimmer
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San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 19, 2012 - 02:24pm PT
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Apr 19, 2012 - 10:04am PT
Klimmer,
I am not going to take the time to tell you what is happing but the military as well as local LEO are well aware of the treat of rightwing militias, others are hate groups, another group are the conspiracies nuts about our government hiding information.
Americans are sheep you are one of them.
April 19 2012 [There is already a thread on Ted Nugent on ST].
WASHINGTON - Rocker and gun-rights champion Ted Nugent says he will meet today with the Secret Service to explain his raucous remarks about what he called President Obama's "evil, America-hating administration" - comments some critics interpreted as a threat against the president.
"The conclusion will be obvious that I threatened no one," Nugent told radio interviewer Glenn Beck on Wednesday. Nugent said he'd been contacted by the agency and would cooperate fully even though he found the complaints "silly."
The controversy erupted after the self-styled "Motor City Madman" made an impassioned plea for support for Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney during the National Rifle Association meeting in St. Louis last weekend. "We need to ride into that battlefield and chop their heads off in November," Nugent said of the Obama administration.
He also included a cryptic pronouncement: "If Barack Obama becomes the next president in November, again, I will either be dead or in jail by this time next year."
Here is just one that feels/thoughts about our election soon to come.
Let’s define extremists:
Extremism is usually contrasted with moderation, and extremists with moderates. (For example, in contemporary discussions in Western countries of Islam, or of Islamic political movements, it is common for there to be a heavy stress on the distinction between extremist and moderate Muslims. It is also not uncommon to necessarily define distinctions regarding extremist Christians as opposed to moderate Christians, as in countries such as the United States.
Political agendas perceived as extremist often include those from the far left or far right as well as fundamentalism or fanaticism.
The term extremism is almost invariably used pejoratively; however the term may also sometimes be associated with person(s) who have different view(s) which is not consistent with the existing norm(s). It need not necessarily imply that the person is a threat to the society or the government or any other agency, but the underlying fact is that there is a totally new and unique perception of the person about life, politics or any other agenda.
What the hell I looked it up for you:
Extremist Groups in the United States
Animal Liberation Front (ALF)
Army of God
Aryan Nations
Black Panther Party (BPP)
Black Liberation Army (BLF)
Christian-Patriots Defense League (CPDL)
Christian Defense League (CDL)
Christian Identity Movement (CIM)
Church of the Creator (COTC)
Church of Scientology (COS)
Commandos L
Concerned Christians
The Covenant, The Sword, and the Arm of the Lord (CSAL)
Cuban Liberator Army (CLA)
Earth First!
Earth Liberation Front (ELF)
Freemen
Fuerzas Armadas de Liberation Nacional (FALN)
Jewish Defence League (JDL)
Ku Klux Klan (KKK)
The Minutemen
Neo Nazi National Alliance
New Afrika (NA)
New Black Panther Party
New World Liberation Front NWLF
Revolutionary Alliance of (Neo)Trinitarian Youth (REALITY)
Republic of Texas
Symbionese Liberation Army
Westboro Baptist Church
World Church of the Creator
There are an additional 13 on the list, need to find them, they keep popping up more everyday from either hate or what the outcome might be from our upcoming election. I hope that Americans do not but the more I hear from people is their stupid rants because they lack information and are ignorant pretty much like you.
No, I am not rightwing; I write and publish papers [sorry not for the public to see] to protect assets [Structures and innocent people from harm] so that these idiots [fanatics] just like you don’t go over the deep end.
My personal feeling you are loosing it, maybe you are not a threat but feel at sometime all of your imaginary thoughts will get the best of you. Just make sure you take your vitamins.
So keep singing: Onward Christians soldiers marching to war: one doctrine and for evermore.
Lost,
You've lost it please check in for therapy.
I'm really tired of your extreme right wing views and threats. According to your philosophy anyone who differs in attitude or opinion or thought process from you is a threat. And you get to decide that. You're the decider. Sounds a little like Nazi Bush 2. And anyone who threatens you, you're OK with shooting them.
You are one sick puppy.
I have no more choice than to send-off an email to Chris Mac and alert him to your very obvious threats. You are a very, very scary person.
The threats in this country come from people who think and do as you do.
Last time I looked we have a Constitution and Bill of Rights. We have freedom of speech and freedom of religion. We do not have freedom to threaten anyone, even if they differ in philosophy, religion, thought process, or what have you. It's called tolerance. The True Christian faith is peaceful to the point of loving your enemies and doing good to people who persecute you. It never picks up a weapon to do harm to others.
You've crossed the line many multiple times here on ST.
No, I am not rightwing; I write and publish papers [sorry not for the public to see] to protect assets [Structures and innocent people from harm] so that these idiots [fanatics] just like you don’t go over the deep end.
My personal feeling you are loosing it, maybe you are not a threat but feel at sometime all of your imaginary thoughts will get the best of you. Just make sure you take your vitamins.
You can't even determine the real message to a very well known Christian hymn "On-ward Christian Soldier" that is beloved throughout Christendom. It's metaphorical. It's a spiritual war not a real physical war. We put on the whole armor of Christ: faith, hope, love, knowing the word of GOD etc. Good works toward others. Yes, we war against Lucifer and his minions. But it is a spiritual war, not against flesh and blood.
You are clue-less.
So keep singing: Onward Christians soldiers marching to war: one doctrine and for evermore.
Try reading the lyrics sometime and get it right . . .
On-ward Christain Soldiers
http://www.hymnsite.com/lyrics/umh575.sht
1. Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war,
with the cross of Jesus going on before.
Christ, the royal Master, leads against the foe;
forward into battle see his banners go!
Refrain:
Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war,
with the cross of Jesus going on before.
2. At the sign of triumph Satan's host doth flee;
on then, Christian soldiers, on to victory!
Hell's foundations quiver at the shout of praise;
brothers, lift your voices, loud your anthems raise.
(Refrain)
3. Like a mighty army moves the church of God;
brothers, we are treading where the saints have trod.
We are not divided, all one body we,
one in hope and doctrine, one in charity.
(Refrain)
4. Crowns and thrones may perish, kingdoms rise and wane,
but the church of Jesus constant will remain.
Gates of hell can never gainst that church prevail;
we have Christ's own promise, and that cannot fail.
(Refrain)
5. Onward then, ye people, join our happy throng,
blend with ours your voices in the triumph song.
Glory, laud, and honor unto Christ the King,
this through countless ages men and angels sing.
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San Diego
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Apr 19, 2012 - 03:24pm PT
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Klimmer likes to use the Bible to justify his belief system. And then justifies his belief system on the Bible.
Stupid? Yes. Will he ever stop? No.
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