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maxdacat
Trad climber
Sydney, Australia
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Jan 29, 2016 - 01:42am PT
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Jan 29, 2016 - 05:11am PT
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At either end of the economic spectrum, human development is impaired by exposure to heavy metals - lead for the poor, silver-spoon for the rich
Trump also suffers from a different sort of heavy metal poisoning: auryria
This is a condition that he has brought upon himself by constant exposure to, and excessive ingestion of GOLD.
Auryria has turned Trump orange, like an Oompa-Loompa. The discoloration is permanent.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Jan 29, 2016 - 05:46am PT
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It's Trump or Cruz. Heres how it happened:
Five Points On How The GOP Ended Up With A Trump v. Cruz Nightmare
Next week, Iowa Republicans are expected to choose either an erratic New York billionaire or a detested U.S. senator as their party's next nominee for president.
It's Trump v. Cruz -- and the Republican Party is somehow just along for the ride.
After a gut-punching loss in 2012, the Republican Party vowed it would be primed and ready for 2016 with a strong field of candidates who were less focused on serving up red meat to the base and more committed to fine tuning rhetoric that resonated with general election voters.
But it did not go as expected. Now Republicans are facing the very real prospect of a two-man race of their nightmares: Trump – a carnival barker who once donated money to the Clintons and has already alienated Hispanics and Muslims – or Cruz, a Canadian-born, government-shutdown loving, lightening rod.
So how did the Republican Party actually get here?
The Party Pretended Like Donald Trump Was A Bad Dream, Not A Reality.
When he announced his candidacy in June and declared he would build a Mexican-financed border wall, it was easy for the party to think there was no way that voters would buy the empty promises Trump was pedaling.
"I'll be the greatest jobs president that God ever created," Trump said during his presidential announcement.
But Republican Party leaders were caught off guard by their own voters' simmering discontentment. Conservatives were fed up with Washington Republicans. They had control of the Senate and the House but still had not managed to make good on campaign promises like repealing Obamacare or rolling back Obama's executive actions on immigration.
Unlike in 2011 when Trump toyed with the prospect of running for the White House only to bow out, Trump began seriously campaigning and saying things that Republican voters wanted to hear. He made promises like, "I would do various things very quickly" if elected. Most dismissed his surge in the polls as a fluke, akin to the hot-potato GOP primary for the 2012 election where Rep. Michele Bachman won a straw poll in Iowa, then Herman Cain stole the base with his fired-up 9-9-9 flat tax plan. That same race included a moment where it looked like former House Speaker Newt Gingrich or former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum might be president. In the end, the GOP was rescued by the safe, reliable, grown-up Mitt Romney.
But Trump didn't go away this time. He began beefing up his campaign's infrastructure taking a summer of Trump into the fall. And, by the time Republican establishment woke up and began strategizing how to stop him, it was too late (not to mention potentially impossible to begin with.) The Washington Post reported that the party's leadership, including Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY), were beginning to prepare for a brokered convention in early December, but a more likely scenario has always been that an insurgent candidate like Trump or Cruz may actually have a clear path to the nomination long before then.
A few disparate attempts surfaced this winter to block Trump. From a super PAC supporting John Kasich that sought to call Trump out for his bombastic comments to Trump LLC, a group run by Liz Mair, a former online communications director of the Republican National Committee, that sought to elicit donations from fed-up donors. Nothing has stuck yet.
According to a CBS News poll released earlier this week, Trump is leading in Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina with 39 percent, 34 percent and 40 percent of the vote, respectively.
The GOP Was Never Serious About Changing Its Tune On Immigration.
Mitt Romney's paltry performance with Latino voters had dashed the Republican Party's hopes of pushing out President Barack Obama on election night in 2012. Republican Party leaders vowed they were not going nominate another candidate who preached policies like self-deportation to win in the primary contest.
But the party never did invest in what it would have taken to seriously curb inflammatory rhetoric and push forward with immigration policies that didn't pander to nativism.
Sure, there were a handful of Republican senators –including GOP presidential contender Marco Rubio– who worked in the Senate to pass comprehensive immigration legislation in 2013. The bill provided immigrants in the country illegally with a path to citizenship, but there was no will in the House of Representatives to tackle the issue. The efforts in the lower chamber collapsed quickly and House Speaker John Boehner had little appetite to push his conference forward at a time when he could not even get the party to agree on funding the government or raising the debt ceiling (or ultimately on whether he should be speaker).
So it is no surprise that in the 2016 election, immigration became –once again– a splintering point of contention. It was the metric by which a candidate's conservatism was measured. Once Trump declared he was ready to deport 11 million rapists, thugs, and drug dealers -- to use the Trump shorthand -- candidates competing for the conservative wing of the party picked up his mantle of anger and ran with it.
The GOP Establishment Bet On Bush Before He Was Battle Tested.
When Jeb Bush left the Florida's governor's mansion in 2007, Barack Obama was just beginning to be a household name and Soulja Boy was about to top American music charts. In other words, a lot has changed since Bush was engaged in the day-to-day combat that is American politics. That, however, did not stop major donors from betting on him early. In part because of his campaign's early organization and in part because of his family's close ties to the establishment, Bush hit the campaign trail with a treasure trove of campaign cash.
According to campaign finance reports, the pro-Bush super PAC had raised nearly $103 million in the first half of 2015, far more than Romney had raised in that same time period in 2011. Bush wooed mega donors like Ray Hunt and T. Boone Pickens according to a report from Mother Jones. Bush's strategy all along was to impress the establishment early, spook candidates like Rubio and keep others in his lane from jumping into the race. He was winning a lot of support, but it turned out his performance was not enough to monopolize it.
Bush surprised everyone as a wobbly and out-of-practice candidate. He fumbled over questions about the Iraq war. He stumbled over his position on whether he supported a path to citizenship, and in debates has shown himself to be a shrinking violet in comparison to verbose Trump. By the time donors grew worried, they had already given Bush enough money to keep his candidacy afloat long after it might have been time to bow out gracefully and give one of the other candidates more room to challenge Trump and Cruz.
The Republican Party Is Still Running Those Undercard Debates.
In 2012, it was the sugar daddy mega donors that kept far-out candidates' hopes of the GOP nomination alive. In 2016, it's the undercard debate.
As if the Republican field were not wide and splintered enough, the Republican Party has continued to host two debates, one for competitive candidates and the other for those who are widely viewed as never winning the nomination. Instead of simply requiring candidates to meet a higher threshold in polls, Republicans have sought to be more inclusive.
That inclusivity has come at a cost. The kid's table debates have been a sideshow for voters. They've given candidates like Santorum and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee a lifeline and stage when they are barely registering in early states. The debates have become so much of an inconvenience that one candidate Sen. Rand Paul did not even show at the last one.
This Was Always A Weak Crop of Candidates.
When your 2012 nominee–who lost–is tempted to jump back into the presidential fray to save your party, you know you have a problem.
In January 2015, rumors were flying that Romney was seriously considering another run for the White House out of fear there wasn't going to be a strong enough candidate to rally around.
The field is full, the resumes are long, but there is something missing: a clear man or woman to rally around.
Enter Trump.
ByLAUREN FOXPublishedJANUARY 29, 2016, 6:00 AM EST
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Jan 29, 2016 - 05:56am PT
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Perhaps, but there's 9 months left to Nov.. Better late than never.
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Jan 29, 2016 - 06:33am PT
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The GOP... the DEM, most of the politards in the Taco, my workmates... even the janitor down at the gym ALL THOUGHT Trump was a joke,a TV show, for ratings and effect.
GOP didn't see what they should have seen? Neither did you. Neither did I. Neither did all the talking heads.
Personally, I didn't know what to think when he first jumped in the ring. The people who supported Trump in the beginning, including Pyro here, didn't think he was a joke ect, though. And that group has been steadily growing to what is a sizeable amount of people now. There has been palpable anger at the system for awhile now, and the rest of these guys (except Carson and Cruz) are part of the GOP farm team. Yes, I even think Rand Paul plays by the farm team rules for the most part now.
People have had it. The blacks are tired of their situation, the hispanics are sick of their situation, the evangelicals are tired of what they perceive as moral decay, the middle class is tired of being beat up and shrinking, and most are sick and tired of big money in politics (read all the GOP farm team boys). I mean really, we should have seen Trumps potential to attract at least. Look at how Carson did until he stumbled. TO be honest, I kind of expected the dems to be a bit more pissed off at the system, but the opportunity to have the first female president seems to be a strong pull.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Jan 29, 2016 - 06:42am PT
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People have had it. The blacks are tired of their situation, the hispanics are sick of their situation, the evangelicals are tired of what they perceive as moral decay, the middle class is tired of being beat up and shrinking, and most are sick and tired of big money in politics (read all the GOP farm team boys). I mean really, we should have seen Trumps potential to attract at least. Look at how Carson did until he stumbled. TO be honest, I kind of expected the dems to be a bit more pissed off at the system, but the opportunity to have the first female president seems to be a strong pull.
So the "fix" for big money in politics and moral decay is to elect an arrogant, wealthy white guy who has been happy to ride that system for his entire life? "I'm tired of politicians saying whatever they want to get elected let's support this guy who claims he's not a politicians who says whatever he wants to get elected."
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Jan 29, 2016 - 06:46am PT
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^^^^^^For some people, yes. Trump is seen as a doer by these people, and as someone outside the system who will protect them and their interests.
edit; at least that is my take. I'm not voting for him. I have a harsher version of Trump supporters which I will not spout off here.
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dirtbag
climber
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Jan 29, 2016 - 06:57am PT
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It's going to be Trump leading the team in November.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Jan 29, 2016 - 07:44am PT
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Noam Chomsky Interview:
"Enormous Sense of Hopelessness and Anger" Reflected in Appeal of Trump and Sanders
"I don’t agree with Sanders on everything, not surprisingly, but I think he’s a respectable New Deal Democrat whose proposals would help the country considerably." -Chomsky
http://tinyurl.com/j4dorff
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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Jan 29, 2016 - 07:59am PT
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The Party Pretended Like Donald Trump Was A Bad Dream, Not A Reality.
In Fact, the Democrats are guilty of playing pretender much longer. Subscribing to Hillary, being able to get elected for the past 8 years. Even after her losing the 2008 Democratic Primary. Far stronger candidates - such as the Governor of my State - were discouraged.
Now, they are caught in a position, where the only possible salvation, relies on the Republicans to totally immolate themselves. Instead of enjoying the position of dominance they would have with a better candidate. They still have a good chance to win, but it won't be the crushing victory, they would otherwise enjoy.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Jan 29, 2016 - 08:05am PT
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Trump is seen as a doer by these people,
How long will it take for trump supporters get mad because he isn't deporting Mexicans, blocking Muslims from immigrating, and there is no wall on the southern border?
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Jan 29, 2016 - 08:12am PT
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About as long as it will take them to start getting happy that Obama has deported more people than any other president, has greatly increased border patrol and that net illegal immigration is actually negative. This is a fact-proof environment. Like they remember Reagan, these people are excited about how Trump makes them feel and that's really it. Trump is the real world avatar of Stephen Colbert's news anchor character.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Jan 29, 2016 - 08:18am PT
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Instead of enjoying the position of dominance they would have with a better candidate
Could not disagree more with this analysis. Comparing the position the GOP is in with the unqualified Trump at the helm to the Dem's situation with the eminently-qualified Hillary is faulty. The Dem race has been civil and issue-oriented. Contrast that with the GOP race. No comparison
What "better" candidate are you talking about? Elizabeth Warren? She has a few elect-ability issues. Biden? C'mon, Joe can't get out of his own way sometimes. I like them both a lot, btw. Who else?
I think you are underestimating Hillary. She is the candidate the right fears running against the most - that's why there's been a cottage industry for years to try to destroy her. The press spins even minor stories into a crises for Clinton.
I think she will beat Trump by a very dominant margin.
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Bushman
Social climber
Elk Grove, California
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Jan 29, 2016 - 09:14am PT
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Trump-a-Bot
Our new president announced today computer minds were on the way
All connected to the Trümp-a-net I heard it's coming any day
The procedure will be painless I won't remember anyway
Line up for your Brain-ectomy it's mandatory now they say
There were protests and rallies right before they swore him in
And most of his supporters already had an implant in
Now my sacred first amendment has gone into the drink
They took away my brain today I'm not allowed to think
But the right to shoot my neighbor well preserved now to be sure
To determine if their loyalty to God and Donald's pure
And I know that I'll get 'fired' if I don't become a fink
Go figure that without a brain I'm not allowed to think
With my jackboots and my Mossberg and a souped up SUV
With the spotlight and my Kevlar I'll be well prepared to be
Rounding up illegals and deporting them I think
If only I had half a brain I know that this would stink
They took out all my brains today and put me in a box
I'm a mindless corporate minion who would never say it sucks
'Cause now I can go gambling and I can freely roam
The casino Trump erected after bulldozing my home
-bushman
01/29/2017
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Risk
Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
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Jan 30, 2016 - 06:50pm PT
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[Click to View YouTube Video]
I do not like what this video says or if it has any relevance. But, this guy could go all the way. He is pulling people from every corner of the spectrum on one issue or another.
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overwatch
climber
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Jan 31, 2016 - 07:25am PT
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Has anyone checked under his toupee for the mark?
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Jan 31, 2016 - 07:41am PT
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Didn't it used to be the vicious scorpion?
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Truth is,
where far left liberals have left a vacuum
(due to their own self-righteous or ignorant denials, etc),
the far right have stepped in to fill it.
Now we all pay the price.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Jan 31, 2016 - 11:18am PT
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that statement is idiotic
Thanks, Dingus.
(1) I spoke of far left, not necessarily extreme; it seems to me there could be a difference.
(2) I read your post - looking for agreement actually - and from the narrow perspective you formulated it I don't necessarily disagree. So you got me there.
(3) My post was written mostly as a response to the afore-posted Viscious Snake video.
(4) I don't think you do (my) links but for the context of this post (if for no other sake than mine) here's a link to the so-called "regressive left" liberals - who insofar as their actions and attitudes don't create a vacuum (I said nothing about "balance") they create weakness on the Left that the right (Cruz to Trump) are all to eager to exploit. Just as we are seeing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regressive_left
re: (1) multiculturalism (2) extreme tolerance (3) failure to distinguish criticism of ideas from bigotry (4) putting the brakes on free speech
That's all I got for now, have a good one.
"Its just opposite sides of the same as#@&%e."
Also, anywhere between the two sides of an as#@&%e is still an as#@&%e - so I'm not sure I can fully appreciate your metaphor. Butt in looking for where you're coming from, I can see what you're saying.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guIVYeCFP7M
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jan 31, 2016 - 04:52pm PT
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Cosmic
666 is the sum of the first 36 natural numbers (in any order)
which should be an interesting exercise since the last I heard there were only about 26 letters in the alphabet
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