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Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Mar 18, 2016 - 06:27am PT
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Bundy's cattle sure as f*#k haven't been paid for through his subsidized welfare grazing permit.
So since they're OUR CATTLE, on OUR LAND, damn right we should have a barbeque!!
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Mar 18, 2016 - 06:45am PT
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Survival
I'm knot sure those cows are even edible. They're stringy
and probably no meat on them--since there's no grass where they've
been grazing. . .
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Mar 18, 2016 - 07:01am PT
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Steve, anything barbequed long and slow enough becomes edible, even rocks.
DMT, thank you, Captain Obvious!
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Mar 18, 2016 - 07:47am PT
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Bundy's cows would consider the feed dairy cows get to be manna from heaven.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Mar 18, 2016 - 07:50am PT
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There are still dairy cows in California?
I guess only most of them have left and gone to states where the legislature doesn't consider them the enemy.
Interesting. Apparently its going to take a little more regulation to kick them all out.
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Mar 18, 2016 - 07:59am PT
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blablablagovernmentsfaultblablabla....
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Mar 18, 2016 - 08:31am PT
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There are still dairy cows in California?
escargot continues to show his deep knowledge of the beef industry.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Mar 18, 2016 - 08:53am PT
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Concerning my Da Brim homeboy*, he, just like anyone else in the U.S,
must
start taking withdrawals from his IRA, SEP IRA, SIMPLE IRA, or retirement plan account when he reaches age 70+1/2.
We really all are in this together, though many of us shun the face-ink and swastikas, one of us could end up as the dude's cellmate.
You don't have any retirement accounts? Nevermind.
Some tasteful ink and an attitude can take you a long way, as far as Tasmania maybe.
* Also known as AB, The Brand or Alice Baker, it is thought that the Aryan Brotherhood has around 20,000 exclusively white male members, some behind bars and some on the outside. It is thought to have been founded in 1964 by Irish bikers at San Quentin State Prison, in honor of St. Paddy's day.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Mar 18, 2016 - 09:26am PT
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Are Kali dairy cows as rambunctious as the Bundy cattle? maybe survivor can let us know.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Mar 18, 2016 - 09:42am PT
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Like Licky's book, this prison gang sheeit has taken on a life of it's own.
It's a good thing Trump is going to build that wall because number one on the ten worst prison gangs, The Numbers Gang, is actually in South Africa and is rumoured to be headed our way. Many members are CPA expatriots of Kenya (Obama's home state).
http://www.criminaljusticedegreehub.com/10-most-dangerous-prison-gangs/#comments
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Mar 18, 2016 - 09:45am PT
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CA-COWS are all chill and peaceful after some weed and Dead pumped through the speakers.
Not like that evil subsidized welfare scrub cactus Bundy-Beef. Luckily we saved the A-10, so the Bundy rats can be harvested and fed to the Mormon seditionists in prison.
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Mar 18, 2016 - 12:56pm PT
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Where's the Beef?
That is the question.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 18, 2016 - 04:05pm PT
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There are still dairy cows in California?
in 2012 California led the nation with milk production of 41 billion pounds, that is 20% of the national production.
Wisconsin was #2 with 27 billion, Idaho #3 with 13 billion.
similar numbers through 2014
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Mar 31, 2016 - 09:17am PT
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If this showed up tomorrow, I'd know it was a joke. Maybe Escopeta is ramroding this offer? The article is from Outdoor Life.
http://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/open-country/exclusive-upland-shooting-club-makes-play-public-land-idaho
An Exclusive Upland Shooting Club Makes a Play for Public Land in Idaho
I have written my share of hunting stories over the years, but never one quite like this: The Idaho Department of Lands has been approached by an entity looking to secure an exclusive hunting lease on public land—and the hunters are expressly prohibited from dressing like a commoner.
In what may be the first collision of British-style aristocratic culture and Idaho’s sagebrush desert, the state will decide which is in the public’s interest: exclusive leasing of public land or the continued public access to an underfunded resource.
Maybe we should start at the beginning. The group, Blixt and Co., is proposing a hunting club on a piece of state-owned land in Jefferson County, Idaho, not far outside the town of Rigby
The specifics of the hunting activity are noteworthy. Blixt promotes the drinking of tea and the wearing of tweed jackets, long socks with flashers (whatever those are), and knickers while participating in English-style driven hunts.
As long as it’s legal and restrained, we’d never cast aspersions on the style of a hunt. But what makes this case interesting, and possibly precedent-setting, is its implication for the private use of public land.
The state of Idaho has a type of public land known as “endowment lands.” These state-owned and managed properties, for the most part, are lands that were donated by the federal government in the late 1800s for the purpose of providing financial support for the state’s rural, public schools. As is the case in many Western states, these “school sections” generate income in a number of ways, with grazing, timber, and mineral leases being most popular. In Idaho, the Department of Lands is required by statute to maximize income generation on these lands.
It’s the revenue-generation requirement that is noteworthy. In 2014, Blixt and Co. proposed a new source of revenue to the state, asking for an exclusive lease on a 580-acre piece of endowment land.
According to its website, Blixt and Co. offers “premier traditional pheasant and partridge shooting” in the English tradition. Each outing features a “personal loader” and a team of 25 drivers. After a day’s shooting, the party retires to the lodge for “tea or cocktails.”
The site offers recommendations for dress that prohibit camouflage or blaze orange, instead urging shooters to wear “matching or coordinating trousers.”
Most endowment lands in Idaho are open to the public for recreational hunting and fishing unless those activities conflict with the ability for the land to generate revenue for the state’s schools fund. And that’s where things get a bit sticky with this story.
The Department of Lands is mandated by law to consider all outlets that would generate revenue from endowment lands—including an exclusive lease to a knicker-laden outfitting business that would lock the public out of public lands.
Thus far the Department of Lands hasn’t received a formal proposal from Blixt and Co., but according to local media reports, e-mails and meetings have taken place.
In an effort to combat the potential of an exclusive hunting lease, state Rep. Mat Erpelding drafted a resolution that would oppose any proposal that prevents the public from using endowment lands because of an exclusive hunting lease. Even if the resolution passes, it wouldn’t change the constitutional requirement that the lands board consider all revenue-generation proposals.
Does this mean Idaho’s Board of Lands is required to grant an exclusive hunting lease to Blixt and Co.? That appears to be the question. Gem State sportsmen reportedly are pursuing an alternative source of revenue for the Jefferson County parcel that would give the Land Board a choice between exclusive leasing to the hunt club and retained public access.
How much funding is required? That’s unclear. As stated, Blixt and Co. hasn’t made a formal proposal, so a firm dollar amount isn’t readily available.
Well, there is one number available. Blixt and Co. reportedly charges its shooters $4,000 a day.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Mar 31, 2016 - 09:22am PT
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Does the $4000.00 include the Dick Cheney flack jacket..?
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 31, 2016 - 09:37am PT
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Sounds like a gun nuts wet dream
what is a beater, or maybe I do not want to know
http://www.blixtco.com/shooting/driven-shooting/
THE SHOOT
Each shoot accommodates a line of 8 guns, and all days are offered based on a “no-bag limit” and will include 6 drives per shoot day.
During the shoot you will be hosted by the “Shoot Captain”, your personal loader, a 25 man strong team of beaters and dog handlers, all directed by our English game keeper whom will make the most to present you with a great day in the field.
A typical day at Twin Peaks starts with breakfast at the Lodge. After breakfast we will head to the field to meet the loaders and the rest of the team. After the customary safety speech and drawing of pegs, we mount up in the custom Gun Bus to move from drive to drive.
There will be two drives in the morning before the guns stop for elevenses, and two more drives before lunch. Lunch is served in the field, under a safari tent placed in a glorious wooded grove settings. Our private chef will make sure that all guests are well looked after.
After lunch, the day continues with the two final drives of the day, before heading back to the Lodge for afternoon tea or cocktails.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Mar 31, 2016 - 10:11am PT
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Haha. You people are too stupid to see past your nose.
Do you really think selling the timber off the State endowment land could ever possibly come close to generating the kind of revenue this operation would bring in?
I prefer to do my driven hunts in the homeland, in a proper Grouse Butt with some fog drifting on the moor.
In the meantime, like this morning, I prefer to just tune up on the local squab.
A hundred or so is enough to keep me sharp.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Mar 31, 2016 - 10:33am PT
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Too bad we can't shoot ticks... I think we could all get behind that.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Mar 31, 2016 - 10:43am PT
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Jon! re your question: What is a beater? Beaters are the local peasants, who spread out in a long line & drive the game towards their masters. In Jefferson County Idaho, which is 75% Mormon, the masters would likely hire one of the many local LDS youth groups for beaters.
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