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Norton

Social climber

the Wastelands

Jan 13, 2011 - 12:06am PT

Here is someone coming out and preparing to post on SuperTopo for the evening

Norton

Social climber

the Wastelands

Jan 13, 2011 - 12:08am PT

Excellent first post here Kunlun!

Every bit as meaningful and relevant as potato shooters or cacti.

Welcome, you will fit right it!

Norton

Social climber

the Wastelands

Jan 13, 2011 - 12:09am PT

Damn, Matthew

That IS disturbing......

Norton

Social climber

the Wastelands

Jan 13, 2011 - 12:28am PT

He was a member of an organization that:

Professed hatred for people of the Jewish faith

Professed their belief in white supremacy over all other races.

We also do know that he was very "anti government"

We also know that he tried to kill a "government" official.

All the above is now common knowledge.
Not telling anyone here what they already know from reading many sources.

Norton

Social climber

the Wastelands

Jan 13, 2011 - 12:30am PT

Rox, you and Locker have a thing for each other.

Either get a room together or start a new thread about each other.

Norton

Social climber

the Wastelands

Jan 13, 2011 - 12:36am PT

Matthew, why do you bother?

Clearly pointless

Norton

Social climber

the Wastelands

Jan 13, 2011 - 12:38am PT

He was a member of an organization that:

Professed hatred for people of the Jewish faith

Professed their belief in white supremacy over all other races.

We also do know that he was very "anti government"

We also know that he tried to kill a "government" official.

These are VERY LIBEREL beliefs.

Conclusion: He was a LIBERAL who wanted to kill a Democrat.

Norton

Social climber

the Wastelands

Jan 13, 2011 - 12:40am PT

Smoking reefer is VERY right wing.

Just ask fellow LIBERAL, Bluering. He smokes all the time.

Conclusion: Since Bluering votes Repub and smokes reefer, then it

follows that ALL people who smoke reefer vote Repub

Norton

Social climber

the Wastelands

Jan 13, 2011 - 12:42am PT

Republican Reagan signed the toughest gun control laws in 50 years into law.

Conclusion: ALL Republicans are in favor of taking away our guns.

Conclusion ALL republicans are soft on crime.

SEE HOW THIS LOGIC WORKS?

Norton

Social climber

the Wastelands

Jan 13, 2011 - 12:46am PT

Lets try another one:

Republican Larry Craig is a known HOMOSEXUAL.

Conclusion: ALL Republicans are closet c*#k sucking homos

Norton

Social climber

the Wastelands

Jan 13, 2011 - 12:48am PT

edit:

Deleted

good night all

Ken M

Mountain climber

Los Angeles, Ca

Jan 13, 2011 - 03:29am PT

Skip, simple question, since you chose to respond.

What does this mean:

PRAY FOR OBAMA: PSALM 109:8

What is it praying FOR?
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You've responded twice, but refused to address the question. I have not called you any names, nor been uncivil to you in any way.

You've probably forgotten the context, but it was making a point about the republicans being absolutely genius about disguising messages, using "code", and misdirecting.

bookworm

Social climber

Falls Church, VA

Jan 13, 2011 - 06:52am PT

"For the truth is that none of us can know exactly what triggered this vicious attack. None of us can know with any certainty what might have stopped those shots from being fired, or what thoughts lurked in the inner recesses of a violent man’s mind."

soooooo...what do you think, jhedge? is barry a right-wing hating denier, too? or is he just insincere?

bookworm

Social climber

Falls Church, VA

Jan 13, 2011 - 06:56am PT

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/blood-libel-sarah-palins-controversial-reference-riled-emotions/story?id=12601352&page=1

oh, the irony...

wait, is this irony?...i mean, i think this is entirely predictable so, by definition, it isn't ironic

bookworm

Social climber

Falls Church, VA

Jan 13, 2011 - 07:07am PT

okokok...so the accusations against palin are not deranged, after all

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-f-kennedy-jr/post_1548_b_807713.html

i mean, if she's so powerful that she can be blamed for the assassination of jfk, then, surely, conspiring to take out a virtually anonymous member of the house makes perfect sense

note to jhedge: i'm kidding (does anyone know where i can get the sarcasm symbol?)

raise your hand if you think jr's revisionism will stand as the most ridiculous assessment of the tucson shooting...can it get any crazier?

i guess i don't have to ask if linking the assassination of jfk to conservatives for political gain is despicable, but the fact that this came from jfk's nephew is astounding

note to jhedge: oswald was a communist who actually defected to the soviet union in the 50s and had tried to kill an ultra-conservative general several weeks before he shot jfk

http://dailycaller.com/2011/01/12/the-left-has-a-reputation-for-being-irreligious-but-it-turns-out-they-believe-in-voodoo/

http://minx.cc/?post=310607

bookworm

Social climber

Falls Church, VA

Jan 13, 2011 - 09:37am PT

i'll always acknowledge when i think barry deserves praise:

"You see, when a tragedy like this strikes, it is part of our nature to demand explanations – to try to impose some order on the chaos, and make sense out of that which seems senseless. Already we’ve seen a national conversation commence, not only about the motivations behind these killings, but about everything from the merits of gun safety laws to the adequacy of our mental health systems. Much of this process, of debating what might be done to prevent such tragedies in the future, is an essential ingredient in our exercise of self-government.

But at a time when our discourse has become so sharply polarized – at a time when we are far too eager to lay the blame for all that ails the world at the feet of those who think differently than we do – it’s important for us to pause for a moment and make sure that we are talking with each other in a way that heals, not a way that wounds.

Scripture tells us that there is evil in the world, and that terrible things happen for reasons that defy human understanding. In the words of Job, “when I looked for light, then came darkness.” Bad things happen, and we must guard against simple explanations in the aftermath.

For the truth is that none of us can know exactly what triggered this vicious attack. None of us can know with any certainty what might have stopped those shots from being fired, or what thoughts lurked in the inner recesses of a violent man’s mind.

So yes, we must examine all the facts behind this tragedy. We cannot and will not be passive in the face of such violence. We should be willing to challenge old assumptions in order to lessen the prospects of violence in the future.

But what we can’t do is use this tragedy as one more occasion to turn on one another. As we discuss these issues, let each of us do so with a good dose of humility. Rather than pointing fingers or assigning blame, let us use this occasion to expand our moral imaginations, to listen to each other more carefully, to sharpen our instincts for empathy, and remind ourselves of all the ways our hopes and dreams are bound together.

After all, that’s what most of us do when we lose someone in our family – especially if the loss is unexpected. We’re shaken from our routines, and forced to look inward. We reflect on the past. Did we spend enough time with an aging parent, we wonder. Did we express our gratitude for all the sacrifices they made for us? Did we tell a spouse just how desperately we loved them, not just once in awhile but every single day?

So sudden loss causes us to look backward – but it also forces us to look forward, to reflect on the present and the future, on the manner in which we live our lives and nurture our relationships with those who are still with us. We may ask ourselves if we’ve shown enough kindness and generosity and compassion to the people in our lives. Perhaps we question whether we are doing right by our children, or our community, and whether our priorities are in order. We recognize our own mortality, and are reminded that in the fleeting time we have on this earth, what matters is not wealth, or status, or power, or fame – but rather, how well we have loved, and what small part we have played in bettering the lives of others.

That process of reflection, of making sure we align our values with our actions – that, I believe, is what a tragedy like this requires. For those who were harmed, those who were killed – they are part of our family, an American family 300 million strong. We may not have known them personally, but we surely see ourselves in them. In George and Dot, in Dorwan and Mavy, we sense the abiding love we have for our own husbands, our own wives, our own life partners. Phyllis – she’s our mom or grandma; Gabe our brother or son. In Judge Roll, we recognize not only a man who prized his family and doing his job well, but also a man who embodied America’s fidelity to the law. In Gabby, we see a reflection of our public spiritedness, that desire to participate in that sometimes frustrating, sometimes contentious, but always necessary and never-ending process to form a more perfect union.

And in Christina…in Christina we see all of our children. So curious, so trusting, so energetic and full of magic.

So deserving of our love.

And so deserving of our good example. If this tragedy prompts reflection and debate, as it should, let’s make sure it’s worthy of those we have lost. Let’s make sure it’s not on the usual plane of politics and point scoring and pettiness that drifts away with the next news cycle...

The loss of these wonderful people should make every one of us strive to be better in our private lives – to be better friends and neighbors, co-workers and parents. And if, as has been discussed in recent days, their deaths help usher in more civility in our public discourse, let’s remember that it is not because a simple lack of civility caused this tragedy – it did not – but rather because only a more civil and honest public discourse can help us face up to our challenges as a nation, in a way that would make them proud. It should be because we want to live up to the example of public servants like John Roll and Gabby Giffords, who knew first and foremost that we are all Americans, and that we can question each other’s ideas without questioning each other’s love of country, and that our task, working together, is to constantly widen the circle of our concern so that we bequeath the American dream to future generations.