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dirtbag

climber
Jan 10, 2011 - 08:22pm PT
Dirt,

Shoving healthcare down the throats of people that don't want can be a dangerous game.

--Skip

Skip, that legislation was passed by democratically elected representatives. Fairly, squarely, and lawfully, and supported by a large percentage of the electorate. Passing healthcare legislation or any legislation should not be a life risking activity.

dirtbag

climber
Jan 10, 2011 - 08:23pm PT
And btw, a lot more people have been killed by right wing violence in this country.
Gary

climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jan 10, 2011 - 08:34pm PT
Do Republicans get anything right? Here's more unbelievable buffoonery:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-prosecutor-misconduct-20110110,0,4131145.story

Last year, the court heard the case of two Iowa prosecutors who were sued for framing two black teenagers for the murder of a security guard even though witnesses had pointed to a suspect who was white. In asking for the claim to be tossed out, the Iowa prosecutors asserted "there is no freestanding constitutional right not to be framed." A settlement was reached before the justices could issue a ruling.

It gets worse, this guy had one month to live:
Prosecutors in the New Orleans district attorney's office had intentionally hidden a blood test that would have unraveled the criminal case against Thompson. By a stroke of luck, a young investigator scouring the crime lab files found a microfiche copy of it. Thompson's blood type did not match. That single piece of evidence led eventually to Thompson being declared innocent of murder.

After he was freed, Thompson sued the office of now-retired Dist. Atty. Harry Connick, and a New Orleans jury awarded him $14 million. But oral arguments at the Supreme Court in the fall suggest he may not see a nickel of it. The high court has taken a dim view of suing prosecutors, and in Thompson's case, the court's conservatives led by Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. questioned whether the district attorney's office should be held responsible for the misdeeds of a few prosecutors.

Defense lawyers say a series of high court rulings shielding prosecutors from damages, including one two years ago in a Los Angeles case, have created a situation in which abuse is tolerated and the falsely accused are more likely to go to prison, or worse. The justices have barred suits against individual prosecutors even when they lie about evidence in court. And increasingly, the high court has been shielding district attorney's offices from being sued for a pattern of wrongdoing by their prosecutors.

The police, like other public officials, can be sued if they knowingly violate a person's constitutional rights, the court has said. By contrast, prosecutors, like judges, were given a total immunity from suits even if they deliberately violated the law. Otherwise, "harassment from unfounded litigation" could deflect from doing their duty, the court said.

Thompson has attracted support from Paul D. Clement, U.S. solicitor general in the George W. Bush administration, who filed a friend-of-the-court brief supported by former Justice Department officials.

"Prosecutorial immunity is the 600-pound gorilla in all these cases," said Clement in an interview. "Step back and ask yourself the question: Which of these people should know better? The prosecutor or the police officer?"

Yet under the high court's rules, the prosecutor who commits "intentional wrongdoing" is shielded, but not the police officer, he said.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Jan 10, 2011 - 08:39pm PT
You could always put them prosecutors on Sarah's hunting map and say they are democrats..? rj
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Jan 10, 2011 - 09:10pm PT
Post that hot pic of Sarah again
I need a rise

HOT? Pshaw! I wouldn't do her with Skippy's dick.
The only way I could see her as hot is if she spontaneously combusted.
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Jan 10, 2011 - 11:12pm PT
Just got some info on this..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_DeLay



DeLay... What a f*#king crook...


Along with a bunch of others.....
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Jan 10, 2011 - 11:32pm PT
Ron..they didn't refuse anything...they were talking about the impact.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0116az-delegations16-on.html

Do you have a problem reading??
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Jan 10, 2011 - 11:43pm PT
LA TIMES Pat Morrison:

Two gay heroes thwart assassinations -- what a difference 35 years make


A 20-year-old congressional college intern with only five days on the job saved Gabrielle Giffords’ life.

Daniel Hernandez ran toward the sound of gunshots. He pressed Safeway workers’ aprons against the congresswoman’s head wound to stanch the bleeding, and lifted her and held her upright so she wouldn’t drown in her own blood. Photos show him evidently covering her hands with his as he walked alongside her as she was carried off on a stretcher.

Daniel Hernandez is gay, a member of Tucson’s city commission on gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender issues. I bring this up not only because gay websites are talking it up, but because it reminds me of another gay man who thwarted an assassination attempt -- but in a very different time and cultural climate.

Oliver Sipple was in a crowd outside the St. Francis Hotel in San Francisco more than 35 years ago, on Sept. 22, 1975, as President Gerald Ford was leaving the hotel.

Seventeen days earlier, onetime Manson family member Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme had pointed a gun at Ford in Sacramento, but a Secret Service agent had grabbed her.

Outside the San Francisco hotel, a woman named Sara Jane Moore was standing next to Sipple. She raised a .38-caliber pistol and aimed it at the president. She evidently got off one shot at Ford, and missed, before Sipple, a former Marine, grabbed her arm and took her down.

The news coverage that ensued changed Sipple’s life, not for the better, and ultimately had a hand in making Americans confront their stereotypes about being "gay."

Sipple was known to San Francisco’s gay community, where he had taken part in some events, but he was not "out" to his family or to the larger world. News reports, including some in this paper, discussed his sexuality -- perhaps disclosed, some speculated, with a nudge from gay activist and future San Francisco Supervisor Harvey Milk (who would himself be assassinated in 1978).

Milk also opined that Sipple’s sexuality got him only a letter of thanks from Ford, rather than an invitation to the White House. The Times quoted Milk in 1989 about Sipple’s actions: "For once, we can show that gays do heroic things, not just all that ca-ca about molesting children and hanging out in bathrooms."

Sipple sued the San Francisco Chronicle’s Herb Caen and several newspapers for invasion of privacy, but his case was dismissed. By taking the action he did, the courts found, Sipple, and thus his sexual orientation, had become news.

Sipple’s mother never spoke to him again, and Sipple died in 1989.

Daniel Hernandez wasn’t even born when Oliver Sipple died. His heroism, too, is incontestable -- and this time, his sexuality is apparently uncontroversial, which may be one of the few hopeful things to come out of these murders and attempted murders. At least we won’t add character assassination to the actual ones.

Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Jan 10, 2011 - 11:54pm PT
Not widely reported is that Gabrielle Giffords, a democrat, was strongly supportive of the reading of the Constitution at the opening of the House.

Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ), reading the First Amendment during the House's historic reading of the U.S. Constitution, defending the right of people to peacefully participate in a democracy just days before being shot at a meeting with constituents

Try to watch this with a dry eye.

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2011/01/08/fitting_quote_of_the_day.html
bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Jan 11, 2011 - 07:14am PT
okokokok...i admit it...sarah palin is guilty...


















of palgiarism: http://bigjournalism.com/dloesch/2011/01/09/the-difference-between-purveyor-symbols-and-crosshairs/#more-157248


but isn't imitation the sincerist form of flattery?
bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Jan 11, 2011 - 09:49am PT
how liberals think:

using crosshairs on a political campaign map (btw, the word "campaign" originally referred to war) is hateful...but using bullseyes on a political campaign map (first, btw) is hopeful


using crosshairs on a political campaign map (btw, the word "campaign" originally referred to war) is hateful...but using crosshairs on an opponent's face ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqB4tyvxWKA ) is hopeful


using crosshairs on a political campaign map (btw, the word "campaign" originally referred to war) is hateful...but burning effigies at an election party ( http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/krugman-its-cool-hang-lieberman-effigy-dont-you-dare-target-democratic-seats ) is hopeful


using crosshairs on a political campaign map (btw, the word "campaign" originally referred to war) is hateful...but making a film about the assassination of a sitting president (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAsysJ72NSU ) is hopeful


Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jan 11, 2011 - 10:00am PT
|Not smart enough to make a living in the private sector?

Only job you can get is being a big government State employee?


Tired of paying UNION DUES?

Your paycheck comes from the big government STATE/

Your healthcare comes from the big government STATE


Even your PENSION will come from big government.



You are the ultimate NANNY STATE tit sucker.

And the biggest LOSER and HIPOCRIT on the planet.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jan 11, 2011 - 10:00am PT
Not smart enough to make a living in the private sector?

Only job you can get is being a big government State employee?


Tired of paying UNION DUES?

Your paycheck comes from the big government STATE/

Your healthcare comes from the big government STATE


Even your PENSION will come from big government.



You are the ultimate NANNY STATE tit sucker.

And the biggest LOSER and HIPOCRIT on the planet.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Jan 11, 2011 - 10:16am PT
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Jan 11, 2011 - 10:42am PT
DeLay, aka "The Hammer"... Is in the slammer!!!


yuck yuck


That's funny.


Some repukes are gonna say that what he did wasn't all that bad.....

But then the law and order repuke might say that a crime is a crime and needs to be punished.

Sit this guy in the E-chair to send a message to all the wouldbe criminals out there....

Do you think that will change the repuklicant party for a while?
I say no, they will continue to lie, cheat, and steal as long as they get paid.

Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Jan 11, 2011 - 10:48am PT
Dr.F - "maybe we can bring one in every three months for now on, and we will be 1/4 way through the list, and they rest will be dead by the time we get to them"


 I was gonna say... That would take to long if they were rounded up every 3 months...

I say we take it to a full scale push for conviction on every counnt of corruption by the buche-crats
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jan 11, 2011 - 11:27am PT
No, Tom Delay is not in the slammer.

And he will not be for many months, perhaps years, depending on the appeals.


And if he gets an Appeals Court to overturn, he won't do any time.


He has all the money need for the best lawyers to keep his ass out of prison


He is "privileged", he is "entitled", he does not DESERVE to serve time
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jan 11, 2011 - 11:29am PT
Good morning, Jeff!



bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Jan 11, 2011 - 11:34am PT
"I say no, they will continue to lie, cheat, and steal as long as they get paid."


The panel could not reach a verdict on one count, Count 3, alleging that Mr. Rangel violated House gift rules by accepting contributions for the Charles B. Rangel Center for Public Policy at City College of New York.

But it convicted him (see video below) of all the other counts. They are:

Count 1: Violating solicitation and gift ban: Soliciting donations and other things of value on behalf of the Rangel Center from persons or entities with business before him or his Ways and Means Committee.
Count 2: Violating code of ethics for government service: Accepting benefits under circumstances that could be construed as influencing the performance of his governmental duties, with respect to soliciting donations and other things of value on behalf of the Charles B. Rangel Center for Public Policy at City College of New York.
Counts 4 and 5, merged into one count: Violating postal service laws and franking commission regulations: Mr. Rangel was accused of using his franking privileges for the benefit of a charitable organization and for solicitation of funds.
Count 6: Violating House Office Building Commission regulations. Mr. Rangel and his staff drafted solicitation letters on House property.
Count 7: Violation of the Purpose Law and the Member’s Congressional Handbook: Mr. Rangel used House employees and other official House resources for work related to the Rangel Center and used his Congress member’s allowance to pay expenses related to the Rangel Center.
Count 8: Violation of letterhead rule: Mr. Rangel sent letters related to the Rangel Center on House letterhead.
Count 9: Violating Ethics in Government Act and House Rule 26: Mr. Rangel submitted incomplete and inaccurate financial disclosure statements, and failed to report or erroneously reported items he was required to disclose under the Ethics in Government Act from 1998 through 2008. In particular, Mr. Rangel amended certain financial disclosure statements only after a House committee began investigating his reporting of income from his Dominican villa.
Count 10: Violating code of ethics for government service: Mr. Rangel leased a rent-stabilized apartment on Lenox Terrace in Harlem for residential use only, but was allowed by the landlord, a developer whom Mr. Rangel dealt with in his Congressional capacity, to use the apartment as office space for his campaign committee. The arrangement could be construed as influencing the performance of Mr. Rangel’s official duties.
Count 11: Violating the Code of Ethics for Government Service: Mr. Rangel violated the code by failing to report rental income on his Dominican villa.
Count 12: Violating the letter and spirit of House Rules listed above.
Count 13: Conduct reflecting discreditably on the House: Mr. Rangel’s improper solicitations and acceptance of donations for the Rangel Center; his misuse of House staff, letterhead and franking privilege for the Rangel Center solicitations; his failure to file full financial disclosure statement; his failure to report the rental income on his Dominican villa; and his use of his rent-controlled residential apartment for his campaign office all brought discredit to the House.


bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Jan 11, 2011 - 12:04pm PT
jon stewart, yes, that jon stewart, speaks rationally and eloquently about the az shooting:

http://tv.gawker.com/5730178/


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