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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jan 10, 2011 - 01:29pm PT
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Jeff, let's make a small but largely symbolic effort to be nice to each other.
We both know this could last only to the next post.
But here goes:
How is your weight loss program going? Seriously
Have you pulled Locker's used butt plug out yet?
Seek professional help with this. He is known for not rinsing.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Jan 10, 2011 - 01:35pm PT
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I'm glad to see we're heeding the call for a more civil discourse.
John
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jan 10, 2011 - 01:39pm PT
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Thank you for that, John.
I just know you meant that cause of my reaching out to Fatty.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jan 10, 2011 - 02:02pm PT
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YES
EVERYONE who smokes some reefer always votes for Democrats.
SURELY he was an "Anchor Baby"
Hannity, Beck, and O'Reilly will be speculating on this tonight.
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bookworm
Social climber
Falls Church, VA
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Jan 10, 2011 - 02:12pm PT
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no, i'm not a truther; 9/11 was perpetrated by radical muslims who want to destroy america and all freedom...i'm not aware of any repub truthers; a couple of libertarians, but mostly libs, including barry's former "green czar"
"the press should treat repub politicians and Muslim terrorists the same"
uh, who's making "false equivalencies"?
palin's statement is not a threat...except to hysterical libs
i think this post confirms exactly who is "unhinged"
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bookworm
Social climber
Falls Church, VA
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Jan 10, 2011 - 02:18pm PT
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"Reagan closed all the Mental health Hospitals in this country, so the Rich can have their tax cuts, and hospitals for the sick are socialist programs, which should not exist in a Fascist state
so the mentally ill go out on the streets, as homeless, and have to steal to survive, since they can't get a job, how would hire them?, not me"
oh my god, f, you are delusional...the libs decided it was wtong to keep somebody in a mental institute against their will if they are not a threat to society...so the bleeding heart libs let all the harmless crazy people out of the institutions...ask a crazy person, "would you prefer to stay in here or go outside and play in the grass?"...what do you think the crazy person is going to say? well, what happened when all the crazy people were released?
um...i can name several mental health hospitals that are open just in my county...where do you live, f? wait, f, are you one of the people who...nah, couldn't be...could it?
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bookworm
Social climber
Falls Church, VA
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Jan 10, 2011 - 02:21pm PT
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"You believe 911 was the fault of Iraq, and Afghanistan"
so, f, you believe all iraqis and all afghans are radical muslims? i referred only to the latter, you made the "false equivalency" with the
former (you do understand what "latter" and "former" mean, right?)
"and Bush could have never imagined these Muslim Terrorists would use Jets as a weapon, never in his wildest dreams
and, apparently, you are a truther
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bookworm
Social climber
Falls Church, VA
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Jan 10, 2011 - 02:22pm PT
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"wrong again"
about the fact that mental hospitals remain open or wrong about your delusion?
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jan 10, 2011 - 02:25pm PT
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How did Governor Reagan shut down the mental hospitals in Arizona?
He wasn't governor of Arizona.
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bookworm
Social climber
Falls Church, VA
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Jan 10, 2011 - 02:26pm PT
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"They go without, since they live on the streets"
they go without because we cannot force them into institutions...it is against the law for any hospital to deny anyone health care
there are thousands of uninsured people receiving the best medical health care in the world in american emergency rooms every day
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bookworm
Social climber
Falls Church, VA
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Jan 10, 2011 - 02:37pm PT
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"But help needs to be free"
typical lib...NOTHING is "free"...somebody always has to pay...again, it is AGAINST THE LAW for any hospital to deny health care to anyone...got it? AGAINST THE LAW
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bookworm
Social climber
Falls Church, VA
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Jan 10, 2011 - 02:38pm PT
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"but it still costs money, its NOT FREE"
oh my god...f is apparently schizophrenic
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jan 10, 2011 - 02:43pm PT
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DR F writes:
"Reagan shut down the Mental Hospitals in the whole F-ing Country"
He missed at least a couple.
Atascadero, Patton. I'm sure there are others still in opperation.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jan 10, 2011 - 02:49pm PT
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You still didn't explain how the Governor of California can shut down hospitals in Arizona.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jan 10, 2011 - 02:57pm PT
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That would be Governor Brown's doing.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jan 10, 2011 - 03:05pm PT
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Dr F writes:
"CHAZ, he was the F-ing President of America, you idiot, can you remember that far back
you amaze me with your retreat from reality "
I remember back to Civics Class in high school. That's far enough back to know you're wrong.
Unlike Govornor of California, the President doesn't have line-item veto power. He couldn't cut anything, even if he wanted to!
Your beef with closing mental institutions would be more properly directed toward the House of Represenitives, where all federal spending - or lack of - originates.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Jan 10, 2011 - 03:16pm PT
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A complete tool. If he is home as he reports, just leave the good people of ST alone. Good pee in someone else's pool.
On a side note, given the responses from skipt and John (I'm sad to report), we have confirmation that there is no such thing as intelligent right-leaning political commentary.
This was on the Wow, Really? Go Home thread. I'm responding here because I don't want to add to yet another political rant thread. I think Boo Dawg and jstan see this correctly. The best response to a perceived troll thread is to ignore it. Well, except for this one!
John
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Jan 10, 2011 - 04:25pm PT
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AUSTIN, Texas — A judge ordered former U.S. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay to serve three years in prison Monday for his role in a scheme to illegally funnel corporate money to Texas candidates in 2002.
source
But, like all people of power in the US, he'll be allowed bail "pending appeals," which will take years to wind through the Texas court system.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Jan 10, 2011 - 04:35pm PT
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Brown's budget will include $12 billion in "revenue extensions and modifications," a category that also includes a stricter corporate tax benefit for out-of-state firms and the elimination of tax credits in "enterprise zones."
Brown also plans to keep schools funded at the same dollar level they received from the state this year, though that proposal is contingent on whether voters approve higher income taxes on the ballot.
His plan seeks to shift greater functions to local governments, providing them funding through higher sales and vehicle taxes voters would pass. He wants to phase out funding for redevelopment agencies.
Brown's budget will include the following program cuts: $1.7 billion to Medi-Cal; $1.5 billion in welfare-to-work; $750 million in developmental services; $500 million each to the University of California and California State University systems; and $200 million through various "reorganizations, consolidations and other efficiencies."
source
Hey fattrad, let's hear your budget plan. One that you think will work.
Otherwise, blow up a balloon.
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bookworm
Social climber
Falls Church, VA
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Jan 10, 2011 - 04:42pm PT
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from james taranto:
"Why? Because last March, Palin's political action committee included Giffords on a list of 20 representatives it was targeting for defeat. All came from districts in which John McCain outpolled Barack Obama, and all voted for ObamaCare. (Only two of the 20, Giffords and West Virginia's Rep. Nick Rahall, made it to the 112th Congress. Two retired, one lost a Senate bid, one was defeated in a primary, and the other 14 were beaten in November.)
The list was illustrated by a map showing cross hairs--they looked like gun sights, although a Palin spokeswoman has said they were actually surveyor's symbols--in the approximate geographic locations of the representatives' districts. At the time, the left cried bloody murder, claiming that Palin was inciting violence against members of Congress.
Again, this was pure left-wing fantasy. As blogger John Sexton noted contemporaneously, the Democratic Leadership Committee and the Democratic National Campaign Committee had both earlier produced similar maps, albeit using bull's-eyes instead of cross hairs. The DCCC map "targeted" specific congressmen and, unlike Palin's map, included their photographs.
Neither Palin's map nor the Democrats' maps were an incitement to violence. They employed an ordinary visual metaphor as part of a political campaign. (The word "campaign" is itself a martial metaphor.) No evidence has emerged that Jared Loughner even knows who Sarah Palin is, much less that he construed the map as a command to commit murder....
"There is no denying that "relentlessly hostile rhetoric" can be found on the right, and also on the left. (On the center, too, for that matter.) Opinions will vary as to where the problem is worst, and it is human nature to find fault with the other side more readily than with one's own.
That said, it seems to us there is a very strong case to be made that the ugliest political rhetoric of the past 48 hours has been that coming from the side whose leading voices are attempting to make sense of a senseless crime by blaming their opponents for it.
Or perhaps we should say from the side that is attempting to exploit the crime in this manner. Politico quotes an unnamed "veteran Democratic operative" who offers this advice to the White House:
"They need to deftly pin this on the tea partiers," said the Democrat. "Just like the Clinton White House deftly pinned the Oklahoma City bombing on the militia and anti-government people."
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