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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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That's right LEB...Michael Vick voted for Bush...rj
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Dr Fry the octogenarian...That's true...the health insurance companies have their own Death Panels better known as Accountants...rj
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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That's right LEB...Michael Vick voted for Bush...rj
Since he is a convicted felon and lost his right to vote, did he commit another felony?
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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simply because a person is a convicted felon does not mean they have lost the right to vote.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Your species dying and going extinct is called "evolution".
You can't make evolution go away by pretending it no longer exists.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Chaz wrote: Your species dying and going extinct is called "evolution".
You can't make it go away by pretending it no longer exists.
Chaz some educated people relate a lot of lost species to destruction...not natural evolution.
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
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I've learned the secret to hummingbird wars: at least four feeders; one on each side of the house. The bullies get their exercise chasing around in circles and everyone gets fed.
And a similar arrangement engineered for the jays, acorn woodpeckers and all the other little guys
The same principle is relevant for setting up a fish tank for the incredibly aggressive cichlids from Lake Malawi. You either need to engineer a suitable sized rock cave complex for each fish; or else have lots of fish and no rocks at all, hence no defensible space. (but just forget about having any other type of fish of any size in that same tank.)
btw, my cockatiel 'Cupid' became expert at riding a human; sort of like a human directing a horse. Cupid would ride around on my shoulder directing activities by tugging an ear lobe in the appropriate direction.
[very short versions of several very long stories]
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Ron - did you say baby?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Supertopo is a big fish tank...rj
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Ron- your baby is beautiful. What do you feed him? We do Harrison's Organic here. It's awesome stuff (and tastes good too).
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Dr F writes:
"what if you get hit by a nuclear bomb, does that mean you were meant to die"
Well, yeah.
You going to get by an atomic bomb and live?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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What's a million dead if it's keeping out the chinese..rj
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Captain...or Skully
climber
leading the away team, but not in a red shirt!
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It's Ohm's Law, actually.
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
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it's all alive
the main thing we have learned on the space station is that we don't know how to make a life support system work
that is also the main thing we have learned on planet earth
we had best learn quickly
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Captain...or Skully
climber
leading the away team, but not in a red shirt!
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Both seem very sad outlooks. Surely we can do better. Otherwise, what's the use?
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Rok, in a former life, I was a graduate student in evolutionary genetics, and studied under two of the great evolutionary biologists of the 20th century, G. Leydyard Stebbins and Theodosius Dobzhansky at UC Davis. Both were men of staggering intellect (google them). Suffice it to say that we know a LOT more about evolution that one might think.
The argument that evolution is a "mere" theory is so misleading. Remember that GRAVITY is in the same category, something that we climbers are oh, so, familiar with.
I am astonished by the debate that goes on about creationism vs evolution. Doby (as we affectionatly called him), was an intensely devoute man, and spent much of his professional life writing about how there was NOT a contradition between evolutionary science and religion.
"Nothing in Biology Makes Sense Except in the Light of Evolution" is a 1973 essay by Dobzhansky, criticising anti-evolution creationism and espousing theistic evolution.
Stebbins was active in conservation issues in California during his later life. He established a California Native Plant Society branch in Sacramento in the early 1960s. Stebbins was also a member of the Sierra Club. To bring things full circle, Stebbins was a mountaineer, and has several First Ascents in the Sierra, as documented in Secor's book, so he was one of us. I don't know how many points he had. :)
It was a great privilege of my life to know and study under these two great thinkers.
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
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RokJox: 'you is as deaf, dumb and stupid as a plant'
RokJox - you is seriously mislead as to the nature of awareness and intelligence
trampling disrespectfully over every living creature is not an indication of awareness and intelligence
manipulating symbols and machinery is not the defining aspect of intelligence
awareness and intelligence is not something that happens in a piece of meat between your ears
awareness and intelligence is not something that is limited by your electro-mechanical senses
awareness and intelligence permeate everything that you call reality
many modern highly educated humans are seriously disconnected from reality and rank as some of the least aware and least intelligent creatures that ever existed
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Some of you should re-read what Rokjox is saying. Forget for a minute that its that guy you don't like, and just consider the words. He is not anti-evoloution, not anti-science, not anti-anything. Just making the point that evolution has led us to a point where everything may take a sharp left turn. A point where predictions based on the way natural selection worked in the past may not be trustworthy.
Jeez. I can't believe I'm telling people to shut up and listen to Lance, but, he really does have a point here.
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corniss chopper
climber
not my real name
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Rokjox - you're right. As we climb higher up the technological ramp
we'll achieve the ability to wipe out undesirable things like fire ants, and termites completely.
Although keep a few in the lab just in case we need them.
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