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Mighty Hiker
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Vancouver, B.C.
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Mar 25, 2010 - 01:12pm PT
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Fatty, you're hysterical. In both senses of the word.
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EdBannister
Mountain climber
CA
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Mar 25, 2010 - 02:17pm PT
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Fat,
Obama is an anti semite, how else could he go to an anti semitic "church" for 20 years?
He will do nothing for Israel, but he will talk to the Arabs, maybe even stupidly enough to expect compliance.
end all arguments about the two sides with this simple set of facts:
If the Arabs actually would lay down all arms, the result would be peace.
If Israel laid down it's arms, the result would be genocide.
case closed.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Mar 31, 2010 - 11:58am PT
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President Obama has about eight weeks to get Iran to stop all development or Israel will strike. Fattrad, Oct 1, 09
Next prediction please?
TGT, "Arabs don't drink."
BWA HA HA HAhahaaaaaa!!!
I lived in Saudi Arabia for four years.
Drank with LOTS of Arabs.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Mar 31, 2010 - 12:00pm PT
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"Arabs don't drink."
Muslims, not Arabs.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Mar 31, 2010 - 12:09pm PT
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Them too.......
I watched them bang their little heads on the floor at our school everyday, then went home and drank with them at night.
Priests don't have sex....get it?
Edit: Sorry for mis-quoting you. My bad.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Mar 31, 2010 - 12:13pm PT
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The point is that the over the top fundamentalist types that would freak out over microscopic amounts of pigs blood ARE the ones that don't drink, but still smoke like a burning tire.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Mar 31, 2010 - 12:37pm PT
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Gotcha. Yes, I met a few of them too. Although there weren't nearly as many as there were guys who just wanted to be "normal" and have a life like the rest of us.
They are so much more like us than people realize.
Sure there are over the top zealots on our side, the Iranian side, Israel, etc...
But why can't the talking heads recognize that the vast majority of these populations want nothing to do with tearing the world apart?
Afghans and Pakistanis included.
There are as many FOOLS in this country as there are in theirs.
Greedy, money grabbing, us vs them, zealots grinding away, stirring the pot, waiting....nay, hoping for the next chance to crank up the war machines.
We can't see their faces because of the sh*t spewed by their government.
They can't see our faces because of the sh*t spewed by our government.....
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Mar 31, 2010 - 01:42pm PT
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Meanwhile, Obama is leading Israel and the US to war:
I won't be holding my breath.
Now the Arabs are upset that we are distancing ourselves from Israel?
What ever shall we do?
Just can't win with those pesky Arabs can we?
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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Mar 31, 2010 - 02:59pm PT
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Idiots. When will the Saudis come into the 21st Century like America is and execute people for being mentally handicapped?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Mar 31, 2010 - 03:07pm PT
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http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=134109
In this recent attack, a Rawalpindi Muslim mob, including some Pakistani police officers, tried to force Arshed Masih to renounce his Christian faith and convert to Islam. Masih refused their demand and was burned to death.
Reports also show that one of three Muslim policemen watching the incident raped Masih's wife while Masih's body burned. The policeman sexually assaulted Masih's wife Martha after she refused to convert to Islam.
f*#king savages....
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Mar 31, 2010 - 03:16pm PT
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The longer this goes on, the more apparent it will be that the national interests of the US and of Israel are slowly but steadily diverging. Israeli behaviour increasingly indicates that it can't be trusted, and it is losing credibility. And I suspect that the Israelis (and others) have seriously underestimated Obama's leadership and determination.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Mar 31, 2010 - 05:09pm PT
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Ohhh GOODY!
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Mar 31, 2010 - 05:18pm PT
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Iran may, fairly soon, have the capability of manufacturing enough enriched uranium to make an atomic bomb. It may take them several years to actually produce enough. They also have all the other technical challenges to deal with, in terms of design, triggers, testing, and a delivery system. Their research and production facilities are dispersed and hardened enough that it would be quite difficult, if possible, to destroy them with conventional weapons. They have some allies.
All of which suggests that in five to ten years Iran will have a working weapon. It won't have the means to reliably deliver it, dare not allow other states let alone terrorists to have it, and knows the price for even attempting to use it (or letting others do so) would be overwhelming retaliation. It may also trigger an arms race in the gulf, in which one or more other countries obtain such weapons.
It would certainly destabilize the world, and mid-east, but any real threat to Israel (or the USA) is trivial. At this point it's a management issue - make sure that Iran is really aware of what it's getting into, sanctions to slow what they're doing, possibly even limited military action for that purpose.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Uh oh, this guy's days are prolly numbered...
http://rantburg.com/poparticle.php?ID=293736&D=2010-04-01&SO=&HC=2
In an interview last month on Al-Arabiya TV, former Saudi Shura Council member Ibrahim Al-Buleihi said that Arab individualism has been erased, rendering the Arab "incapable of independent thinking," and that what prevails is "the spirit of the herd that cannot free itself from the captivity of the prevailing culture."
In the interview, which aired on February 26, 2010, Al-Buleihi sang the praises of Western civilization, saying that notions such as human rights are not "an accumulated achievement, in which all societies played a role, but an achievement of the West." Arab societies "should benefit from this rich experience," rather than remaining "a burden on the West."
"Tyranny is a tremendous obstacle, which makes any progress impossible," said Al-Buleihi. On the situation in post-Saddam Iraq, he said: "Iraq has not been permitted to achieve stability. The whole world has intervened in its affairs." He viewed Western intervention in Iraq as a positive thing, comparing the situation to that of Japan after World War II.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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former Saudi Shura Council member Ibrahim Al-Buleihi said that Arab individualism has been erased, rendering the Arab "incapable of independent thinking," and that what prevails is "the spirit of the herd that cannot free itself from the captivity of the prevailing culture."
True for a few, but definitely NOT TRUE for Arabs as a whole.
Remember, I lived there for four years. There are LOTS of free thinking Arabs, who are afraid to speak out because of the harshness of the punishments. I heard this from practically every member of the Arab militaries who I spoke to in private, but aren't yet ready to speak very openly in a group.
There are too many Arabs doing military training in the west, schooling, vacationing, seeing the wider world, for this thinking to last forever. It is gradually escaping the grasp of the fundamentalists.
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