4th of You Lie

Search
Go

Discussion Topic

Return to Forum List
This thread has been locked
Messages 221 - 240 of total 454 in this topic << First  |  < Previous  |  Show All  |  Next >  |  Last >>
Watusi

Social climber
Newport, OR
Jul 3, 2010 - 10:44pm PT
Jest sending these up for Janno...Knew he didn't care about this...Peace, MP.
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Jul 3, 2010 - 10:55pm PT
John's last post to this thread, and to SuperTopo, one worth repeating:

INDEPENDENCE DAY FOR NATIVE AMERICANS
by Robin Carneen

When the lands are given back to us, and we don't have to do fund raisers or occupations to get them back ;

When the buffalo are not hazed and killed by government agencies;

When rocks are not sold as souvenirs on Alcatraz ;

When Indian names and images are not used as Sports mascots or for commercial selling of products ;

When we can have equal time in our classrooms across the United States to learn and speak our languages so they are not lost forever ;

When we have funding in our schools so our children can learn;

When all tribes can be "recognized" ;

When we can keep our casino monies and take care of our own;

When we all have health care, card carrying or not ;

When we can have statues that also commemorate our own people;

When we can change historical markers to reflect the truth and not glamorize the murders;

When we can see curriculum in our school books and classrooms that are not romanticized or glossed over when it comes to what really happened in and around Indian Country ;

When we don't have to ask permission to hunt and gather for sustenance, ceremony, or for medicinal reasons;

When all Sacred Sites are in place(and protected);

When our ancestors remains or artifacts are uncovered, the corporation or construction companies JUST STOP and find a different place to build;

When DJ's of commercial radio stations stop putting Indian people down;

When we can get our Indian Trust $$$ back out of the US Government's hands;

When we can get adequate and efficient housing for all Reservations & rancherias & there is no waiting list ;

When we can get more of a variety of commodity foods and some fresh food...like eggs, milk, etc ;

When we can all have enough land given back to grow our own foods;

When our reservations are no longer used as toxic and nuclear waste dumps;

When the US Government apologizes and is held to answer for the atrocities and genocidal acts it did against countless Native American people ;

When our President makes a visit to each Rez and realizes what the USA has re-created in Afghanistan, Iraq and countries to come;

When our ceremonies are not sold by those who disrespect the pipe, the sweat lodge, the sundance and the things that help us heal ;

When we can get roads, power, phones, and computers to the Reservations & rancherias that are without these things;

When we have a gym, clinic, wellness center, etc on each and every Reservation;

When we have our own radio station on each Rez;

When we have more kids graduate from High school and college;

When we have adults returning back to school and getting their GED;

When we have less or no Indians in Prison and jail or political prisoners like Leonard Peltier;

When we have more rehab, preferably traditional and native way facilities ;

When we have more prevention programs and activities on the Rez's;

When poverty dissipates and children and adults do not have to go hungry;

When women are not referred to by the name "Squaw" and men "Chief";

When Winona La Duke sits as President in the White House
ron gomez

Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
Jul 4, 2010 - 02:44am PT
Can't sleep, thinking of John. Funny how this popped up when I opened the Topo. Coincidence?
Peace
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Arid-zona
Jul 4, 2010 - 02:57am PT
He, among other people, taught me that heroes were people too. Complicated, flawed and still amazing.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
Jul 4, 2010 - 11:15am PT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01QPo7zk7GM&feature=player_embedded#!

Rest in peace, John, and God bless ya! I'll never forget this thread....
d-know

Trad climber
electric lady land
Jul 4, 2010 - 01:42pm PT
i think jb's intent
was to shed some light
on the plight
of our native
brothers and sisters
situation and history
on this nationalistic
holiday.

if you read all the posts
in this thread, the outcome
is a success, where ever
you stand on the issue.


gonamok, you had a good post
that i wish was not pulled.

keepin' it
on the one
for us all
funky brother.

dino
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Jul 4, 2010 - 04:03pm PT
Hendrix rocks the Star Spangled Banner.

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/jimi-hendrix-national-anthem/92d310a76a46e66b756892d310a76a46e66b7568-128077464485?form=msnhal

We've come along way since the War of 1812. What a long strange trip it's been.





RIP John.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
Jul 4, 2010 - 04:26pm PT
Nice post, Philo.

i consider myself a Jimi-friend. A lot of peeps though he was a commie, hippy. He was a patriot. An acid-dropping brother.

I have a lot in common with him. We prolly could have been gud pals. Jimi was misunderstood. But he was a gud dude.

Who does the Star Spangled Bamner like that??? God bless ya, Jimi, and rock on!!!!!!

F*#kin-A!~
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
Jul 4, 2010 - 04:34pm PT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ETrr-XHBjE

o'er the land of the free and the home of the brave....bitches!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=394247245189951727#

bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
Jul 4, 2010 - 04:51pm PT
Sh#t, I shed a tear on this one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wupsPg5H6aE

Whitney had it! I watched it again....she rocks!!!!!!
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Jul 4, 2010 - 05:01pm PT

We miss you, John.
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Jul 4, 2010 - 05:21pm PT
It's sad that we have been perverted from the Arsenal of Democracy to the Arsenal of Corporatocracy.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Jul 4, 2010 - 05:34pm PT
Ten posts and nobody has pointed it out???????????????






JIMI WAS HALF CHEROKEE INDIAN!!!!
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Jul 4, 2010 - 06:36pm PT
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
Jul 4, 2010 - 06:44pm PT
We all remember John and his family today. He started a thread to get us to think about our foundation.

It's still here, John. And so are you....we will never forget our for bearers of liberty and grandiose climbing.

You made a statement, and it stands.......Rest in peace, bro...
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Jul 4, 2010 - 07:45pm PT
The oceans served as a screen to block those that lacked adventure, vision, and the wish to make a better life with one's own hands.


Hell, even my mormon neighbors who's ancestors were at war with the US government 153 years ago sport the stars and stripes.



I'm gonna bake a potato, barbecue a steak, slice up a watermelon, and crack open a beer, and drink a toast to a country that gave the world a hope for freedom as well as innovations like the revolver, the lever action rifle, the light bulb, the telephone, the affordable car, the airplane (300,000 of them from 1941-45 alone just to win WWII), the television, the personal computer, and, almost forgot, the goddamn successful lunar lander for phux ache!

and to the freedom that let a friend raise his voice in protest of elements of the past likely far more regrettable.
TripL7

Trad climber
san diego
Jul 4, 2010 - 08:42pm PT
God Bless America!

RIP JB, Jimi & Geronimo...Three American Legends!
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Jul 4, 2010 - 09:48pm PT
hey there say all.... today is a good day to pray for everyone, everywhere...

and a good day to reflect on many things, past and present...

will also, always remember john, from this...
and the young son, that presses onward, to be a man...

god bless to you all...
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Jul 4, 2010 - 10:00pm PT
Happy fourth to all.
Thank you John, for pushing us to take a real look at this, and other things.
tomtom

Social climber
Seattle, Wa
Jul 4, 2010 - 10:25pm PT
All of you are celebrating the destruction of the aboriginal people of America.

God bless you.
Messages 221 - 240 of total 454 in this topic << First  |  < Previous  |  Show All  |  Next >  |  Last >>
Return to Forum List
 
Our Guidebooks
spacerCheck 'em out!
SuperTopo Guidebooks

guidebook icon
Try a free sample topo!

 
SuperTopo on the Web

Recent Route Beta