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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Feb 20, 2009 - 12:22am PT
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What in the holy fukcin hell is that GD?
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Grahm Doe
Sport climber
Oakhurst, CA
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Feb 20, 2009 - 12:48am PT
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Sheesh, u guys don't know what a Snorkle Stove is?
http://snorkel.com/hot-tub-info/snorkel-and-scuba-stoves.php
Why try to find a hot spring when u can just make your own? You can't hike very far with it but if there is running water and a tub your in there!
Nothing beats enjoying the night sky from a hot tub. Unless of course your enjoying it at Shuteye near the crags...
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Feb 20, 2009 - 01:12am PT
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son of a biscuit, pure geniush!
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hungry man
Trad climber
around
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Feb 20, 2009 - 01:18am PT
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Hey that is very Kool.
But those pools of standing water are usually disgusting!
Am I a prude, or is that a special clean one?
It looks clean.
I like things to be clean.!
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Feb 20, 2009 - 01:18am PT
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is it ethical to mix salsa and climbing?
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Feb 20, 2009 - 01:40am PT
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"is it ethical to mix salsa and climbing?"
yes, but seiging the bowl, laying fixed coolers, and caches of peppers have their limits. It's a lot like ice climbing, at some point it becomes mixed and guacamole-ish.
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crazy horse
Trad climber
seattle, wa
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Feb 20, 2009 - 04:05am PT
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i'm coming out 4th of july for a week. i'll be there for sure. anyone is welcome to join up and i can show them the area
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Grahm Doe
Sport climber
Oakhurst, CA
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Feb 20, 2009 - 11:05am PT
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Hungry Man - " But those pools of standing water are usually disgusting! Am I a prude, or is that a special clean one?"
I am not down with stanky water. You have to drain the standing water and wipe clean before filling with fresh mountain spring water. Don't ask how. I have my ways.;-)
Crazy Horse that weekend works for me too. Maybe on the 4th I'll have to be home but the rest of the weekend is open.
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scuffy b
climber
just below the San Andreas
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 20, 2009 - 12:40pm PT
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Crazy Horse, you're not supposed to sink to the level of
talking about salsa. You're just reaffirming the total
uselessness of Super Topo, don't you know?
Edit, GD stylee
Wipe clean!! lol
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hungry man
Trad climber
around
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Feb 20, 2009 - 01:17pm PT
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That is nice!
"Can I pee in it?"
 Homer Simpson
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Nate D
climber
San Francisco
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Feb 20, 2009 - 01:22pm PT
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I just have to say that I find the redneck hot tub a bit repulsive.
Sorry, brother Grahm.
The pools were better unadulterated, unscoured, and bolt free... and I'm sure the fish agree.
But you know me, I've never liked the idea of lopping either...
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Grahm Doe
Sport climber
Oakhurst, CA
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Feb 20, 2009 - 11:07pm PT
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To each his own. I did remove the hangers and covered the two stainless steel studs with rocks the last time I was there.
On a different note I hit up one of the new winter crags I have been working on and got 5 new routes done today. 10a,10d,11b,11b,12a This ones a shorter wall but has some great climbing.
The season never ends!
Here's some pics...
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mooch
Big Wall climber
The Immaculate Conception
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Feb 22, 2009 - 11:04pm PT
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I'm with you Nate on the "el naturale" pools.
We could elaborate further..... lopping comes at the same price as bushwhacking the same "beeline" to a crag and eventually wearing in a trail. Pretty much the same level of impact.....either today or years later. Now, the use of a chain saw to cut back anything bigger than 2"....that's going a bit far. Besides, it's not like concrete is being laid out with trail side signs. Cutting back some foliage doesn't makes the same level of impact as say.......chipping?? Plants grow back....rock doesn't.
You need to kiss and make up with "Cyndi", Nate!
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tiki-jer
Trad climber
fresno/clovis
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Feb 23, 2009 - 10:16am PT
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Hey as much as I like the Redneck Stove-thingy, I don't think it belongs out there. I was real bummed when I saw all the debris and the murky pools after the cleaning of the tub.
There are fish in there man! German Browns and they are naturals.
Fishermen have been there before us ya'll. Lets keep it pristine.
Perhaps that is why the stove was thrown out of Frustration Creek?
Think of the Fish, Man!! (Sounds like the Lorax)
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Grahm Doe
Sport climber
Oakhurst, CA
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Feb 23, 2009 - 12:26pm PT
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Wow! Didn't realize you guys were so pissed off about this. I apologize if the initial cleaning out of the little pool negatively effected your experience out there. I am sure with all the storms we have had mother nature has scoured the whole area back to the way it was. The Snorkle Stove is never left out there.
It was not thrown out of Frustration Creek for any other reason than some vandals found it and thought it would be fun to throw it off a cliff. They did some other juvenile crap too but its not worth discussing here.
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Tork
climber
Yosemite
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Feb 23, 2009 - 12:51pm PT
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Grahm, these folks don't sound "so pissed" to me,there just letting you know maybe some of the things you do out there is not cool with everybody.
At least you were invited by mooch to his salsa fest.
Jeff
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Nate D
climber
San Francisco
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Feb 23, 2009 - 01:09pm PT
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Yea Grahm, we should have spoken up sooner. But, what's done is done, and none of us own the place (which I suppose is the point, really).
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jstan
climber
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Feb 23, 2009 - 01:49pm PT
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Graham:
If the land on which you made "improvements" was included in areas open for homesteading or perhaps gold mining you are required to file a claim and further "prove it up" according to Federal requirements. This has been the rule for much longer than 100 years I believe.
Now I have another suggestion that might well permit you to do fifteen first ascents a day instead of just five, and you could, perhaps, fully use up all the possible routes in your area in just a couple of months. Just think. Fully used up in just a month or two! One of your photos shows two metal attachments to the rock right next to a natural feature that would have allowed you to scoot up it in a minute rather than having to go to the time and expense of firing up an electric drill for what? Twenty minutes? Think of how much more you could get done.
These times are so strange it is actually possible you were entirely unaware of all this prior art. If this is the case just know we understand and we hope you will soon discover the really important things available to us all in these wild areas.
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mooch
Big Wall climber
The Immaculate Conception
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Feb 23, 2009 - 03:07pm PT
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HA!
Getting back to Salsafest '09.....I'll start by bringing the following:
1) "UberVegan Gringo Boy Salsa" (made especially for those jumping ship from Sushifest).
2) "Shuteye Sh#t Hot Chili Lime Salsa" (bomber!.....better than chipped/"enhanced" incuts on Chichito Dome)
3) "Loppered Loose Leaf Chutney"....surprise, surprise, surprise (insert shallow Gomer Pyle voice)! Tiki-Ger would be proud!
Top it off with ice cold Two Ikkies!
Next!
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Gene
climber
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Feb 23, 2009 - 03:22pm PT
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I'll start by bringing the following:
"UberVegan Gringo Boy Salsa"
Must you?
I'll bring the IPA - 'Interlands Powered Alcohol.
gm
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