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nutstory

climber

Ajaccio, Corsica, France

Oct 7, 2015 - 07:15am PT

I have just discovered these two cams on eBay. To my knowledge, these close copies of the Wild Country Technical Friends (1987) were made by the Canadian company, Outland Climbing Equipment, in the early nineties. They were called Outland Four Cam Units and marketed in five sizes. Is there anybody here who could confirm it?

Roots

Mountain climber

Tustin, CA

Oct 22, 2015 - 09:48am PT

^^^^^bump for my mystery RURPS and micro pitons....

Roots

Mountain climber

Tustin, CA

Oct 23, 2015 - 10:26am PT

Here's another mystery piece of gear but not "pro"..hope you gear whores don't mind ; )

Was used by Gene and Betsy White. Betsy said it was made by Forrest and probably a prototype. Anyone know?

Reilly

Mountain climber

The Other Monrovia- CA

Oct 23, 2015 - 10:34am PT

SMC Camlocks - pretty bogus, but worked OK as regular nuts. Carried 'em for a while until I
decided they didn't have much 'range'.

That pipe above looks like you would really have to suck hard on it!

Jaybro

Social climber

Wolf City, Wyoming

Oct 23, 2015 - 01:42pm PT

There were some nut tool / hammers that looked like that made from nuclear reactor control rods. I'd suggest taking a giger counter to that thing.

bhilden

Trad climber

Mountain View, CA/Boulder, CO

Oct 23, 2015 - 01:49pm PT

Stephane,

I have several of those Outland Cams. Mine have a red-colored trigger. Probably a size thing.

karabin museum

Trad climber

phoenix, az

Oct 23, 2015 - 07:30pm PT

Roots: nice Dolt Bits! The ebay hammer nut tool looks homemade to me. Rurps unknown but you are going on Eds memory. Are you positive those Rurps are from 1960?

Stephane: My 5 cam set I have listed as Extreme Cams from Extreme Mountain Gear from Canada late 1980s. The cams are shown in an advertisement in R&I or Climbing magazine. These are Outland Cams? The slings were added by Ragged Mountain.

nutstory

climber

Ajaccio, Corsica, France

Oct 24, 2015 - 12:56am PT

The Canadian company Outland Climbing Equipment Ltd started in 1989. They produced nuts, TCUs and four cam units in the early nineties. The Extreme Mountaingear cams were made by Outland Climbing Equipment Ltd.
bhilden, are your Outland cams that have a red-colored trigger bar the same size?
Marty, I suspect that it is the advertisement that you mention in your post.

Roots

Mountain climber

Tustin, CA

Oct 27, 2015 - 04:44pm PT

Roots: nice Dolt Bits! The ebay hammer nut tool looks homemade to me. Rurps unknown but you are going on Eds memory. Are you positive those Rurps are from 1960?

-DOLT it is then, but does not look like his finished quality. Maybe prototype?

-I thought it was homemade too, but Betsy didn't hesitate when she answered "The nut tool was made by Bill Forrest, probably a prototype".

-Ed's is suffering from CRS. He couldn't remember if some of what I have was used on Dihedral Wall FA or not, even though some of the pieces are displayed in the DH gear photo.

-However, he did clearly remember using those RURPS on the FA of Mt. B. He said without them, the ascent would not have been possible.

-If he is remembering correctly, that kinds of throws off the Chouinard timeline on RURPS???? If they are Chouinard...

-He stopped buying climbing gear in 1964.

*EDIT: Looks like I have a typo above. Thank you Clint for verifying. 1961.*

Thanks for the help!

PS More to come : )

Clint Cummins

Trad climber

SF Bay area, CA

Oct 27, 2015 - 04:51pm PT

-If he is remembering correctly, that kinds of throws off the Chouinard timeline on RURPS???? If they are Chouinard...

Ed's timeline is consistent with Chouinard, and Ed's are Chouinard RURPs.

RURP: invented by Yvon Chouinard and Tom Frost for the April 1960 FA of Kat Pinnacle - Southwest Face

Mt. Baring - North Face - FA: Don Gordon and Ed Cooper, July 13, 1961.

nutstory

climber

Ajaccio, Corsica, France

Oct 29, 2015 - 10:51am PT

What is this...?

karabin museum

Trad climber

phoenix, az

Oct 29, 2015 - 02:50pm PT

Wow cool! I like how the end of the trigger bar is cut in for a thumb catch

Roots

Mountain climber

Tustin, CA

Oct 30, 2015 - 08:38am PT

Pitons made by whom??!!

Steve Grossman

Trad climber

Seattle, WA

Oct 30, 2015 - 09:30am PT

Dolt...

Roots

Mountain climber

Tustin, CA

Oct 30, 2015 - 09:53am PT

DOLT!!

Well of course I had hoped for that answer but again, the quality is not top notch like other examples I have of his gear. Seems his early creations were not as "finished" as his later ones?