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J. Werlin
climber
Cedaredge
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JL-- well done, mate. Feel good about yourself. Go buy yourself a nice dinner with all the money you've saved.
I try and psyche up friends, Who's in charge? You or that round can? Seems like 9 times out of 10 the can wins.
I was climbing at Hueco with two Swedes (Svante, at 6-7 with hands the size of an outfielder's mitt was a confidence-boosting spot) who tried to kick the chew. Within hours they were complaining of severe headaches and blurred vision. They started chain smoking cigarettes. Less than 24 hours later they were back on the chew.
I'm going to forward this thread to a chewing friend as inspiration.
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scuffy b
climber
Bates Creek
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Way to go, mates.
This is the best news I've heard in a while, really.
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Indianclimber
climber
Las Vegas
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Aug 24, 2007 - 11:22pm PT
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You changed your life forever in four months,now that is a fight worth fighting
Congrats Largo
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Sparky
Trad climber
vagabon movin on
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Aug 25, 2007 - 03:13am PT
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Same. Still off the chew feeling great! I always used nicotine as a crutch after hearing that it stimulates your creative juices....
Since I've been composing music (starting at 12 yrs.), I've been either smoking cigs, cigars, chewing or even yes, nawing on a plug. Now at 32, I've found I still can come up with great melodic themes and phrases. Great feeling to be..............
nicotine free!
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Largo
Sport climber
Venice, Ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 25, 2007 - 12:30pm PT
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I recently had to give up booze as well. That leaves me crutchless save for coffee. Very strange to be without repressing devices, and all the things I used to use to modulate my nervous system.
JL
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Mimi
climber
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Aug 25, 2007 - 01:34pm PT
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Sounds like you're down to two vices, Largo, besides hanging on pro every now and then.
Way to go with kicking the tobacco.
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nita
climber
chico ca
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Aug 25, 2007 - 01:45pm PT
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Yep, Way to go Sparky, hope your enjoying the townhouse.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Aug 25, 2007 - 02:32pm PT
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Bravo to John, and others, for quitting, or trying to quit, and for trying to understand why they're hooked, and should quit.
My mother smoked a half pack to a pack a day, from her early 20s until her 50s. (She's now in her later 70s.) When she started, the tobacco companies were aggressively marketing to young women, an untapped market. Promoting smoking as glamorous, in the early 1950s. My father also smoked a pipe for a while, but more for appearances I think.
Anyway, my mother up and quit smoking one day, soon after her first grandchild was born. We'd mercilessly harassed her about it for years, without effect. She's never smoked since, and in fact is now fairly intolerant of smokers. Perhaps it was partly just growing older, perhaps the new perspective of a first granchild. She simply stopped - no fuss.
My mother's experience brings to mind one of John's comments: "Very strange to be without repressing devices, and all the things I used to use to modulate my nervous system." In perspective of the comments on the ADHD thread, I wonder how many climbers in fact use alcohol or other substances as a way to moderate their behaviour, e.g. as a means of release? Given all the hormonal stress that adolescent males are already experiencing, and the possibility that committed climbers as a group are a little different, it seems possible. As those stresses decrease, in other words as we (hopefully) mature physically and emotionally, we have less need of such releases - but may by that time be hooked.
Only 18% of Canadians now smoke, and that's down from 24% in 2000. Even fewer in urban centres like Vancouver.
A few years ago, there were all sorts of lawsuits against "big tobacco" for its fraudulent practices, leading to big judgments. The sad thing is that those judgments will be paid by smokers in developing countries, e.g. China and India, who are now being aggressively marketed to.
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labrat
Trad climber
Nevada
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Aug 25, 2007 - 06:38pm PT
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Good job Largo! Keep it up.
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Bill Mc Kirgan
Trad climber
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
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Nov 17, 2008 - 11:37am PT
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I'm bumping this fine thread to brag on MY success quitting the nicodemon... It was TEN YEARS ago yesterday that I had my last cigarette. It was tough in the first days, months and years, but after year 4 I really don't think about those things except when I find myself annoyed and avoiding second-hand smoke.
To all of you who have succeeded in quitting I commend you! Celebrate each day of your new lives.
To all who struggle I keep you in my thoughts / prayers / meditations. I want you to know that EVENTUALLY those cravings will pass, and you will be the same loveable person you always were.
To all who've never tried, or have given up, please give it another thought. Please give yourself permission to try again. For me, past failure at quitting made me feel guilty, and it helped me to actually 'forgive myself' before I could muster the courage to try again.
The courage is not so much in trying as it is in telling someone else that this is your plan. That makes it real.
That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
 Bill
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