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Brian in SLC
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Salt Lake City, UT
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Jan 22, 2019 - 01:03pm PT
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Nope. She's not running for president (yet...ha ha).
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jan 22, 2019 - 07:02pm PT
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Congress agitates to end relentless shutdown
The Senate is prepping dueling votes while House centrists are pushing Pelosi to counter Trump with her own compromise proposal.
By BURGESS EVERETT and RACHAEL BADE 01/22/2019 12:45 PM EST Updated 01/22/2019 05:40 PM EST
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/22/house-democrats-pelosi-shutdown-1118986
There's a flurry of movement to end the shutdown on both sides of the Capitol, but no signs that either President Donald Trump or GOP and Democratic leaders are budging enough to end the standstill now on its 32nd day.
A group of centrist House Democrats, sick of political posturing, is pressing Speaker Nancy Pelosi to counter Trump’s immigration proposal with her own potential compromise. The group, led by freshman Rep. Elaine Luria of Virginia, is asking the California Democrat to offer Trump a vote on his border wall or some sort of negotiated security package in February if he first signs a bill reopening the federal government, according to a draft copy of the letter obtained by POLITICO.
And in the Senate, Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) forged a deal to allow votes on the president's proposal, which provides $5.7 billion for his wall and temporary protections for some undocumented immigrants, as well as a stopgap bill pushed by Democrats to fund the government into mid-February. But those plans will require 60 votes in the narrowly divided Senate, and each appears unlikely to pass. The Senate passed such a stopgap bill in December, but that was before Trump came out in opposition. Now the president would almost certainly need to endorse it for it to get 60 votes.
The Dem's resolve looks to be crumbling...a bit, anyway. Sigh.
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Jan 22, 2019 - 07:10pm PT
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If only Trump had embraced the concept of Global Climate Change, he could now point to these 5 thousand person caravans as being the precursor to caravans of hundreds of thousands or even millions of people displaced from the equatorial regions of Central and South America due to heat and drought.
Game of Thrones had it figured out seven seasons ago.
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Bushman
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The state of quantum flux
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Jan 22, 2019 - 07:48pm PT
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Representative Ocasio-Cortez by all appearances is one of the most all-in activists I have seen recently in public office. A true voice to the millennial generation and one that, if you take time to think about it, matters the most. For the majority of us on this site will not live to see the havoc our generation has wrought on the future generations to come.
Ocasio-Cortez speaks truth to power and to the future of governance in the most direct way possible, a way that both engages and enlists the participation of younger voters and other activists like few others.
Say what you will about democratic socialism and it’s biases or about how one should patiently climb the congressional ladder in order to affect real change, but I’d rather hear this firebrand spout about her positions and ideology than listen to the repetitive blather of the other 434 members in that body.
Incidentally, tearing people down many times gives them more power.
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jan 22, 2019 - 08:02pm PT
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"Incidentally, tearing people down many times gives them more power."
So AOC's 'thumb in the eye' to her Democratic predecessors in the House will wind up empowering them? Because that's what she's doing right now.
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Jan 22, 2019 - 08:23pm PT
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What I find most amusing about AOC, and Trump to be honest, is how each of these extreme personalities have managed to totally disrupt the delicate waltz of the royal courts.
The image that keeps coming to mind of our government is one of a ballroom full of titled and landed gentry wearing their finest of silks spinning around one another with a curtsy here and a bow there, punctuated by the required harrumphs and feigned disdain over this sleight or that, all with the goal of appearing to be functional, but mostly a one-act play that carries on until they retire a millionaire and write a book.
The Dance of the Do Nothings.
Then comes the Orange Haired Bull in the proverbial china store that upends the table, fires the orchestra, poops in the punch bowl and tells the hostess that she is fat and her hat is ugly.
The Royal Court Of Washing Town goes aflutter and the TV pundits clutch their pearls and bemoan the end of civility while the rest of the country laughs their azzes off as the absurdity of it all - don't they realize this is why this buffoon got elected? Doesn't every royal court need a jester - well, we gave you one.
As for AOC, I look at her as the once prim and proper daughter you sent to college who just came back for Holiday break with her hair dyed purple, waving a copy of Mao's Little Red Book and telling you how much you suck for having a 70 inch TV while pygmys are starving in Africa.
You know we'll get though it - but damn if it won't be interesting for a while.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Jan 23, 2019 - 07:32am PT
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“And I think the part of it that is generational is that millennials and people, in gen z, and all these folks that come after us are looking up and we’re like, the world is gonna end in 12 years if we don’t address climate change. You’re biggest issue, your biggest issue is how are going to pay for it? — and like this is the war, this is our world war II.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Jan 23, 2019 - 08:31am PT
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the world is gonna end in 12 years
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jan 23, 2019 - 12:15pm PT
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Trump taunts Pelosi: I'm giving my SOTU in the House
The president says his speech should be 'delivered on time, on schedule, and very importantly, on location!'
By HEATHER CAYGLE, REBECCA MORIN and JOHN BRESNAHAN 01/23/2019 12:28 PM EST Updated 01/23/2019 02:28 PM EST
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/23/trump-said-he-still-plans-to-deliver-state-of-the-union-address-on-jan-29-1121068
UPDATE 2:46 p.m.:
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Wednesday said she would not pass a resolution allowing President Donald Trump to deliver his State of the Union address from the House chamber until the government reopens, rebuffing the president’s statement that he would move forward with the speech regardless.
“I look forward to welcoming you to the House on a mutually agreeable date for this address when government has been opened,” Pelosi wrote to Trump is the latest volley between the two leaders.
ORIGINAL ARTICLE:
President Donald Trump on Wednesday rejected Speaker Nancy Pelosi's request to delay his State of the Union speech until after the government shutdown ends, intensifying the brinkmanship between the two leaders that has become a centerpiece of the ongoing funding impasse.
Trump said he fully intends to give the annual address in the House on Jan. 29 as was originally planned, a defiant rebuttal to Pelosi's letter last week suggesting the president postpone the speech -- or deliver it in writing -- until the funding stalemate was resolved.
"I look forward to seeing you on the evening on January 29th in the Chamber of the House of Representatives," Trump wrote in the letter, his first official response to Pelosi's missive last week. "It would be so very sad for our Country if the State of the Union were not delivered on time, on schedule, and very importantly, on location!"
Is there any doubt that Trump would keep the gov't shuttered past January 29 just as a power-play spite to Pelosi?
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Norton
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The Wastelands
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Jan 23, 2019 - 12:28pm PT
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yeah well, Nancy can shut off the House lights and allow no cameras
Donald can give his speech in the dark to himself...best speech ever
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Sula
Trad climber
Pennsylvania
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Jan 23, 2019 - 12:36pm PT
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So what's not to love about a cute young gal, short on experience but not on enthusiasm, who uses a gang rape analogy to explain how she'd like to see things proceed?
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Jan 23, 2019 - 12:39pm PT
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and what's not to love about a US President who pays women to shut up
who brags about grabbing them by the pussy
who is in his 70's and ought to know better
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HermitMaster
Social climber
my abode
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Jan 23, 2019 - 01:35pm PT
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and what's not to love about a US President who pays women to shut up
who brags about grabbing them by the pussy
who is in his 70's and ought to know better
And, yet you voted for a President who will go down in history as boinking the interns.
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jan 23, 2019 - 02:30pm PT
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Looks like Pelosi has officially said 'Not in my House' to Trump's SOTU.
Good for her. Bullies only understand one thing: being hit right back, where it hurts.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Jan 23, 2019 - 10:12pm PT
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It's now apparent that Trump and his cronies are prolonging the shutdown because they intend to destroy numerous federal agencies, once and for all.
Since they cannot legislate the end of the EPA and other "snowflake" federal agencies, they hope to refrain from paying federal employees for so long that everyone eventually jumps ship and abandons their federal jobs.
White House spokesmen, including Steve Bannon, have expressed that it is their goal to bring down numerous federal agencies by whatever means necessary.
Of course, the side effect of the shut down is that federal investigations into Trump's private business practices are stalled, and Trump's Russian friends are getting rich again.
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Aeriq
Sport climber
100-year Visitor
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Jan 23, 2019 - 10:14pm PT
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Jan 22, 2019 - 08:23pm PT
What I find most amusing about AOC, and Trump to be honest, is how each of these extreme personalities have managed to totally disrupt the delicate waltz of the royal courts.
The image that keeps coming to mind of our government is one of a ballroom full of titled and landed gentry wearing their finest of silks spinning around one another with a curtsy here and a bow there, punctuated by the required harrumphs and feigned disdain over this sleight or that, all with the goal of appearing to be functional, but mostly a one-act play that carries on until they retire a millionaire and write a book.
The Dance of the Do Nothings.
Then comes the Orange Haired Bull in the proverbial china store that upends the table, fires the orchestra, poops in the punch bowl and tells the hostess that she is fat and her hat is ugly.
The Royal Court Of Washing Town goes aflutter and the TV pundits clutch their pearls and bemoan the end of civility while the rest of the country laughs their azzes off as the absurdity of it all - don't they realize this is why this buffoon got elected? Doesn't every royal court need a jester - well, we gave you one.
As for AOC, I look at her as the once prim and proper daughter you sent to college who just came back for Holiday break with her hair dyed purple, waving a copy of Mao's Little Red Book and telling you how much you suck for having a 70 inch TV while pygmys are starving in Africa.
You know we'll get though it - but damn if it won't be interesting for a while.
We were just saying this today - the PC culture is the china shop, and Trump is The Bull.
Time to scare the bull...
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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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Jan 27, 2019 - 11:34am PT
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McConnell is the roadblock.
DMT
I see McConnell as the symptom not the cause. Republican primary voters are the roadblock. House and Senate republicans are, justifiably, scared of losing their next primary if they cross Trump and his supporters.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Jan 27, 2019 - 11:50am PT
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I think the republican voters are more afraid of Ann Coulter circling on her smoking broom flinging curses at the comb - over behind the curtain...
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jan 27, 2019 - 12:18pm PT
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Except that McConnell was the Senate leader waaay before Trump's campaign even started. McConnell has been the behind-the-scenes guy who has relatively quietly (relative to Trump, anyway) enacted the will of the GOP for a long time. I don't agree with many of his directions, but he deserves respect for having been as effective as he's been.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jan 27, 2019 - 02:01pm PT
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McConnell is a self-serving coward. He only holds his “position” because he is a willing yes man. I guess that is what the GOP calls leadership these days.
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