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zBrown
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Nov 28, 2017 - 03:19pm PT
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Couldn't find the All Purpose Sex Perv thread, couldn't find the Trump Perv Thread or the Moore Perv thread, though I think there was a Cosby thread.
How high is the standard, Javier?
About 8 foot high and risin'.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Nov 29, 2017 - 06:03am PT
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I see you are up early, too, Tad. Just posted over on the Fight Club thread.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Nov 29, 2017 - 07:22am PT
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Franken's butt grab has the none-of-the-above crowd way more shook up than anything Trump is doing to destroy our democracy. Man, they fell in line easy after the election. No resistance from them boys.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Nov 29, 2017 - 08:55am PT
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just more blind speculation I wasn't referring to you.
Agreed, the secret sexual harassment payouts in congress is a scandal. We need it to stop and we need an accounting of what happened.
I remember the days when bipartisanship wasn't considered tyranny. The far-right who control the GOP did away with that, with the help of Fox, talk radio, Breitbart. et al. Obama reached out and was torched. So here we are. Trump governs by Twitter to his base, each one seemingly more degrading than the last.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Nov 29, 2017 - 09:20am PT
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Politics has everything to do with this thread. The Franken outrage is political. It is a fact that Republicans invented the smear campaign. When it comes back to bite them they are oblivious to the hypocrisy, and scream for unity, what a joke.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Nov 29, 2017 - 09:31am PT
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DMT, take a basic civics class at an adult center. Your ignorance on the basics of government is embarrassing. You keep blabbing about some non-existent non-partisan government. Come back to earth, dude.
Also, work on your reading comprehension skills. I’ve said the Franken matter is up to the voters who elected him to decide. I don’t live in Minnesota.
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c wilmot
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Nov 29, 2017 - 09:48am PT
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Garrison Keller is the latest perv to get the ax...up next- Bill Maher
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John M
climber
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Nov 29, 2017 - 09:55am PT
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There is a difference between partisan politics when it comes to ideas and partisan politics when it defends bad behavior on one side while attacking it on the other. I believe that what DMT is trying to get at is having a level of moral code that applies to everyone. Lying is lying no matter who does it. Cheating is cheating.. Abuse of others is abuse of others no matter the party. Franken behaved slimy. we shouldn't tolerate it. If you want to say that you have no more to say about franken because you can't vote for him, then you should probably shut up about moore. Or any of the other slim balls who represent states that you don't live in. Otherwise you are stooping to a level of partisanship that I want no part of. I want the people who represent me to have a high moral center based on decency and respect for others. I don't expect perfection. But I do expect a level of decency that recognizes when one has done wrong and doesn't blame others. He/She did it first doesn't work for me. I have no respect for that. So if someone wants to stand for certain ideas and be partisan about that, then that is fine with me. But behavior is a different thing. You better be willing to look at the log in your own eye before you start complaining about the spec in someone else's eye. Again, this does not mean being perfect. But it does mean a desire to be better and a willingness to do something about it, including change.
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dirtbag
climber
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Nov 29, 2017 - 10:09am PT
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Garrison Keller is the latest perv to get the ax
Whoa—another surprise. I never cared much for his show—it always struck me as cultural appropriation of rural culture by Urbanites.
I guess he shouldn’t have published a Washington Post column about Franken yesterday.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Nov 29, 2017 - 10:34am PT
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shut up about moore.
Here's the problem. You're lumping everyone into the same boat, as if what Moore is accused of (and denied, calling his accusers liars) with what Franken is accused of are the same. They are not by a large margin.
For the 10th time, Franken is not getting a pass. He's under investigation and may very well have to resign.
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Nuglet
Trad climber
Orange Murica!
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 29, 2017 - 10:58am PT
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a prairie home groping companion
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Nov 29, 2017 - 02:01pm PT
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Tweeden was on the radio this week saying that she feels that Franken is calling her a liar, when he says he remembers the events different than she does.
Abusers are like that. They don't stop.
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Nov 29, 2017 - 02:13pm PT
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Let’s impeach the orange groper who now can’t even recognize the sound of his own voice talking about his sexual assaults on women. Let’s crucify the Alabamian pederast. No? Then maybe some others need to shut up about Franken until they can muster the appropriate backbone.
all well and fine and I agree with Jeebus above
but what I cannot accept is the voters who put Donald Trump in the WH
and they did it fully knowing that 16 women accused him of flat wrong sexual behavior
the same voters knew that Donald's wife, Ivanka, sued him for marital rape
the voters knew he lied and screwed young people at his Trump University
same voters knew how he used his "charity" to buy 10K picture of himself to put up at his golf course
same voters knew he was sued twice by the Federal government for refusing to rent to blacks
his own Secretary of State has called him a "fuking moron", another cabinet member says his has the brain of a "kindergartener"
don't blame Donald Trump for this awful and embarrassing Presidency, blame those who voted for him
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Nov 29, 2017 - 02:24pm PT
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If you're in the GOP, you just deny everything as a liberal conspiracy and take no responsibility for anything, ever. That is the moral compass they stear by, and it seems to work for their base.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Nov 29, 2017 - 02:39pm PT
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Mr Bomz writes:
Oust him, but for chrissakes, rain down some terror on your own guys.
Who are my own guys? Please advise.
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MikeL
Social climber
Southern Arizona
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Nov 29, 2017 - 02:48pm PT
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John M: But I do expect a level of decency that recognizes when one has done wrong and doesn't blame others.
We are all human. With that comes the good and the bad. We expect or require only the good.
Jebus: Then maybe some others need to shut up about Franken until they can muster the appropriate backbone.
This suggests a sliding scale. Maybe it would be best to let go of the scale.
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MikeL
Social climber
Southern Arizona
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Nov 29, 2017 - 03:20pm PT
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Jebus:
How about if we recognize that legal systems come and go, and are entirely nationalistic (read, "biased").
I would argue that it would be better if we were to say "how it seems to us" rather than presenting findings as concrete. It might seem to some that one's own system of norms and behaviors are right or appropriate for all the world, but we should give that some thought.
How do we come together as different groups and nationalities?
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Nov 29, 2017 - 03:59pm PT
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Let’s impeach the orange groper who now can’t even recognize the sound of his own voice talking about his sexual assaults on women. Let’s crucify the Alabamian pederast. No? Then maybe some others need to shut up about Franken until they can muster the appropriate backbone.
all well and fine and I agree with Jeebus above
Who is the "Alabama pederast" that keeps being referred to on this thread?
If it's meant to be Roy Moore, he's been accused of a number of things, but pederasty is not one of them.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Nov 29, 2017 - 04:53pm PT
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Yeah, I bit on your trolling. My bad. Now, go back to Trump’s Twitter feed. Your outrage meter has hit the roof over Franken. Trump, meh. His sexual assault accusations don't bug you, obviously. ...
That would be me. I respect the office of the President of my country, and afford that respect to the title bearer of the office and refer to the President (past and present) in proper fashion.
Its President Trump
Sorry to offend you, enabler. I don’t use the P word. Lol.
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Nov 29, 2017 - 05:42pm PT
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the word is Pedophilia - and we are talking about Roy Moore and Donald Trump
*A federal lawsuit filed in New York accuses Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump of repeatedly raping a 13-year-old girl more than 20 years ago, at several Upper East Side parties hosted by convicted sex offender and notorious billionaire investor Jeffrey Epstein.
*The suit, first reported by the Real Deal, accuses Trump and Epstein of luring the anonymous plaintiff and other young women to four parties at Epstein’s so-called Wexner Mansion at 9 East 71st Street. Epstein allegedly lured the plaintiff, identified in the suit only as Jane Doe, with promises of a modeling career and cash.
*Another anonymous woman, identified in additional testimony as Tiffany Doe, corroborates Jane’s allegations, testifying that she met Epstein at Port Authority, where he hired her to recruit other young girls for his parties. Trump had known Epstein for seven years in 1994 when he attended the parties at Wexner, according to the suit. He also allegedly knew that the plaintiff was 13 years old.
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