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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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May 29, 2017 - 05:56pm PT
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HFCS... How much room does it take to speciate...? You need a football field or somethin..?
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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May 29, 2017 - 06:33pm PT
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Here, we are going to need to agree that harm is the diminishment of the rights, property, or well-being of an individual or individuals (or please provide a better definition if you have one, and thank you) as well as agree on the good, which would be the positive enhancement of those qualities rather than the diminishment.
Personally I've never heard one pro lifer happy to be advocating for less rights. In actuality pro lifers seem to be advocating for more rights.., Rights for people who haven't even been seen yet. Yeah, the unborn, the gentle beings unlodged inside a woman's body. You all are discriminating because you haven't seen him/her yet. But let's be forthright, there is a him/her inthere and they deserve atleast the same rights as any illeagal immigrant. Don't they?
To rise below that argument.. Let's peer deeper into evolution. Has there ever been any other living organism to prejudicely cut the cord(in a manner of speaking) and decisively decide to not propagate? Doesn't it seem to go against the mettle of evolution? Same could be said for homosexualality. Sure, it happens in Nature once in awhile, but what positive notes might you expect from "Mother Evolution "?
Even, if not!
I'm one who supposes the environment is responsible for atleast 75% of change within the human organism.. Yep, we can change mountains to molehills with our minds!
I think basically that it's my ideal for us to live above the law by us drastically hammering each other with higher standards/ambitions.
Oh yeah: feralfae, that was a great post!
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Trad climber
Will know soon
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May 29, 2017 - 06:43pm PT
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Well said, Jim Brennan.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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May 29, 2017 - 07:00pm PT
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Yeah Jim, possibly maybe each and every religion is devised by a yearning? And they are all out there. Seems as if we go thru life, and presumably mature in maturity; and our yearnings change! I'm startin to think of it as a sequel..
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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May 29, 2017 - 07:51pm PT
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Brennan... My mum is 94 , sassy , and has outlived most of her church buddies...My observations of someone being 94 is that breathing and eating become a priority and all other non-sense goes out the window...
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feralfae
Boulder climber
in the midst of a metaphysical mystery
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May 29, 2017 - 08:14pm PT
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Hi Lynnie, good to hear from you, hope you are having entirely too much fun. :)
Mr. Brennan, that is a beautiful story for this Memorial Day. Thank you. I think that especially as one prepares for the Next Big Adventure, one likes to know one is a part of a Fellowship. Tolkien seems to have mentioned that a time or two. It was one of Jesus' things. too. :)
Your Mother has found loving fellowship. So beautiful.
ff
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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May 29, 2017 - 08:55pm PT
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Craig- ever wonder why a Dungeness crab claw is the perfect tool to extract meat from hard to reach areas? Is that just a fluke? Or was it "designed" that way? Certainly evolution would have nothing to do with it
I would say that evolution did have something to do with it.
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Delhi Dog
climber
Good Question...
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May 29, 2017 - 09:01pm PT
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I thought whales (and anchors) had flukes.
But on a crab?
weird
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
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May 29, 2017 - 10:46pm PT
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Religion has been a crock of sh#t since Eden on.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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May 29, 2017 - 11:54pm PT
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Fascinating how "anti-er's" get anchored in Genisis....
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Delhi Dog
climber
Good Question...
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May 30, 2017 - 02:10am PT
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Has there ever been any other living organism to prejudicely cut the cord(in a manner of speaking) and decisively decide to not propagate?
Not to get too caught up in this discussion but regarding the above;
I can think of at least one example right off the top of my head..."in a manner of speaking" offspring of many living things are regularly killed by a parents in nature. I believe that IS part of the evolutionary process.
Not to defend nor attack pro-lifers nor religion, just a example.
And to respond to the homosexuality comment; One obvious stand out is that homosexuality does not "harm" others.
Why would anyone care who one loves.
It ain't my business, nor your business, nor religions business.
“This is my simple religion. No need for temples. No need for complicated philosophy. Your own mind, your own heart is the temple. Your philosophy is simple kindness.” ― Dalai Lama
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perswig
climber
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May 30, 2017 - 03:12am PT
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“This is my simple religion. No need for temples. No need for complicated philosophy. Your own mind, your own heart is the temple. Your philosophy is simple kindness.” ― Dalai Lama
"Be graceful." - Jim Brennan
Same-same.
Dale
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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May 30, 2017 - 06:23am PT
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"“This is my simple religion. No need for temples. No need for complicated philosophy. Your own mind, your own heart is the temple. Your philosophy is simple kindness.” ― Dalai Lama"
Spot on.
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Mark Force
Trad climber
Ashland, Oregon
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May 30, 2017 - 06:32am PT
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^^^The KISS formula for religion.
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MikeL
Social climber
Southern Arizona
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May 30, 2017 - 06:45am PT
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Heart. Mind. Grace. (Interesting choice of words among moderns.) “Formula” and KISS would seem to me to be more like it (useful heuristics).
Good to know HHDL is not involved in any religions. It’s all wonderfully simple and straightforward.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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May 30, 2017 - 12:31pm PT
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Fascinating how "anti-er's" get anchored in Genisis....
We'll, it is the first book. And easiest to read. And one of the most classic tales of Science Fiction ever.
Jesus made a huge mistake attaching the Old Testament to his new religion. (unless it was someone else, not him) Probably done for marketing reasons. Funny thing is the Jews were the least likely to convert.
The Old Testament is the foundation for the Judeaism, a religious practice, with a bit of "Thou Shalt Have No Other Gods Before Me" so as to enforce it with fear.
Jesus was about justice and healing and compassion, good stuff like that.
If you really love Jesus, stick to the new Testament. And dump Revalations. Should have alternate title "Halucinations."
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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May 30, 2017 - 12:36pm PT
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"Jesus made a huge mistake attaching the Old Testament to his new religion. (unless it was someone else, not him) Probably done for marketing reasons. Funny thing is the Jews were the least likely to convert. "
There is no written words by Jesus...his life and writings are based on hearsay.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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May 30, 2017 - 04:13pm PT
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When churches run food banks and childrens hospitals they do a tremendous ammount of good. when they get involved in politics it almost always goes bad.....
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