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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Feb 15, 2017 - 12:51pm PT
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Yeah, almost as lame as Clinton being asked about wiping her illegal email server and responding with, "What? You mean like with a cloth?"
Yeah, they are all such a barrel of laughs!
Such losers, every one. Oh, and, well, Clinton really was a loser.
But, you know, haters gonna hate, and Trump's the present target.
Carry on.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Feb 15, 2017 - 01:01pm PT
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What...? No Benghazi comparison...? How disappointing...
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Feb 15, 2017 - 01:25pm PT
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If obamas disastrous and illegal foreign policy's had never been implemented we would not be dealing with Syrian refugees.
Irs hard to claim you care about Syrians when you supported a president that helped destroy their nation. And unlike bushs wars- only obama decided to intervene...with no plan, goal, or strategy.
wilmot, why do you have a hardon for Syria?
this is the topic du jour of everyone of your post.
are you Syrian?
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Feb 15, 2017 - 01:28pm PT
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Thinking people had every right to question clinton about her use of a private server and to expect rule of law to be applied. The same cuts for trump.
Absolutely! I'm agreed!
My point would be how pointless and futile it is to "discuss" every lame-ass thing Trump says or does. He's a prick, which is no surprise, as he ran for and achieved the position that will only receive pricks at this point.
Of course, if it makes you all feel better to think "we called it" in thinking he's a prick, well, more power to you. But, really, there's no news here, and you weren't "prescient" to think he was a prick. Everybody at that level is, and there's gonna be piles of evidence to substantiate such a judgment, regardless of who we're talking about. Nobody here was "wise" in advance to know it.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Feb 15, 2017 - 01:31pm PT
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Clinton Clinton Clinton, blah blah. If she was the President it would be right and correct to discuss her. She's not. Your boy is.
So we'll keep talking about him, mmkay?
Tell him to get his shirt together! BWA Hahahahaaaa!
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Feb 15, 2017 - 01:43pm PT
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The President is using a Private Twitter Account!!!
His staff are using a RNC private account!!!
Lock em up, he's risking the security of the entire Nation
How can he be so careless, he must be trying to hide something
Why does he get away with so many criminal acts,
is he held to a different standard?
And what about the Trump inspired Terrorism, maybe we should bomb the leader of this terrorist ring of thugs
Where is the outrage!!!
hypocrites
If you could only see how you spin
It's quite revealing
it makes people still harping about Hillary look like an idiot
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Feb 15, 2017 - 01:46pm PT
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Whatever makes you feel "wise."
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Feb 15, 2017 - 01:50pm PT
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American Intelligence sources agree
after spending the weekend talking to friends who work in dc i can safely(well, 'accurately'...) post the following things:
1-the russian dossier on trump is real. 100% real. he's being blackmailed by the russian government, not just for being peed
on by russian hookers, but for much more nefarious things.
2-the trump administration is in collusion with the russian government, and has been since day one.
3-the trump administration needs a war, most likely with iran. at present they are putting u.s warships off the coast
of iran in the hope that iran will attack one of the ships and give the u.s a pretense for invasion.
4-there are right wing plans to get rid of trump. he's a drain on their fundraising and their approval ratings, and the gop and koch
brothers and other u.s right wing groups are planning to get rid of trump.
5-intelligence agencies around the world, and here in the u.s, are horrified by the incompetence of the trump administration, and are
working to present information that will lead to high level firings and, ultimately, impeachment.
i'm writing these things so that when/if these things happen there will be a public record beforehand.
these are truly baffling and horrifying times, as we have an incompetent president who is essentially owned by a foreign power.
3. the trump administration needs a war, most likely with iran. at present they are putting u.s warships off the coast
of iran in the hope that iran will attack one of the ships and give the u.s a pretense for invasion.
This part is the most scary since many Republicans leaders seem to think it's a good idea to bomb Iran.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Feb 15, 2017 - 01:54pm PT
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I love how deeply concerned president Hair is about leaks, and how dangerous they are.
Weird, but he sure liked them last year....
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Feb 15, 2017 - 02:05pm PT
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Bookem' Danno
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Feb 15, 2017 - 02:08pm PT
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But, really, there's no news here, and you weren't "prescient" to think he was a prick. Everybody at that level is, and there's gonna be piles of evidence to substantiate such a judgment, regardless of who we're talking about. Nobody here was "wise" in advance to know it.
False equivalency, big time!
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perswig
climber
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Feb 15, 2017 - 02:08pm PT
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When 45 shitcans Bannon ...
You may have this backwards, Survival.
Dale
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dirtbag
climber
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Feb 15, 2017 - 02:08pm PT
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#IllegallyLeake
Anyone wonder how fascism takes hold?
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Tom Patterson
Trad climber
Seattle
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Feb 15, 2017 - 02:11pm PT
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Jody, your OP is hilarious. The end.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Feb 15, 2017 - 02:12pm PT
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From a Long Time Lurker
A special message
From: Lois Brenneman
555 Springfield Terrace
Simpleton, PA 66656
Order Details:
Hi Craig,
Hope you are well. I met you on Supertopo where I used to post in the past. I am looking for cuttings of Opuntia versicolor with very dark red/claret blooms and/or cuttings from a plant with red-orange blooms. As you know, the red variant is rare with most of this species putting forth green/yellow to yellow to pale orange blooms. I like the deep claret blooms. My husband prefers the red-orange blooms and those specimens are rare, as well. I have come across a specimen with deep claret blooms during my hiking but that specimen - which I have also photographed - is not esp conveniently located for me. We could certainly return to it but, actually, it would be easier to buy some cuttings if you had any available.
We still have our main residence - house and 40 acres - in PA but last year we bought a second home in Sun Lakes, AZ. It has a huge saguaro growing well on the front lawn. A claret-blooming O. versicolor would be just stunning against a wall we have surrounding our property. We are currently putting in any number of cactus species, at this time. What has gone in thus far looks great, and, better yet, these various specimens are doing great, as well. My husband, it seems, has quite a flair for desert landscaping. If you do not have any such cuttings to sell, at present, perhaps you could keep an eye out for me and take a few cuttings should you come across one such plant. As I recall, you go on collecting trips in the desert. I am looking for a deep red bloom like the one I saw and photographed in 2011. Orange-red would be OK also. My husband likes that color.
Send my regards to all the folks at ST. Hope everyone is well and happy there. Hoping you are well and prosperous, enjoying life, also.
If anyone has a special red flowered Opuntia versacolor please send it to LEB
We don't carry Cholla at our Succulent Nursery.
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divad
Trad climber
wmass
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Feb 15, 2017 - 02:20pm PT
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so appropriate to bring up LEB in this thread...
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Feb 15, 2017 - 02:22pm PT
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Let us review
Fourteen Defining
Characteristics Of Fascism
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.
6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
I see blatant expressions of No. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 11, and 14 under the Trump regime
No. 14 is the big one, fraudulent elections, voter suppression, election fraud, collusion with the Russians, voter machine tampering, and now Trump's big push on illegal immigrants voting can only mean he is going to push through some horrible voting suppression technique so they will win any election in the future no matter who is on the ballot.
Who know what Russia can do to voting machines, they are easily hacked according to most experts.
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Feb 15, 2017 - 02:28pm PT
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Strain your shriveling noodles loons. Think way, way back, when Hildabeast was to be a landslide winner and the Senate and even house were thought to be swept back into commie control.
Sometimes the past, immediate or longer term, is an indication of future trends. Don't count your Hussein entitlement checks before they're cashed.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Feb 15, 2017 - 02:29pm PT
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And the leaked e-mails from the DNC were also illegally obtained
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dirtbag
climber
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Feb 15, 2017 - 02:31pm PT
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If that's what you think dirtbag
then I'll just tap your phone without getting a warrant.
And people who leaked the info was breaking laws when they did it
LOL...
Trump said "Look, leakers! Hillary! Bad people!"
One of our adversaries meddled in our election, quite possibly with the assistance of our President, and you'd rather focus on the f*#king leakers.
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