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Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Aug 11, 2015 - 08:55pm PT
See, squishy, when you post lies like that, you destroy any credibility you have in any of your arguments, because you have defined yourself as a liar.

http://fox5sandiego.com/2015/08/10/fisherman-hooks-drone-flying-over-crystal-pier/
CA.Timothy

climber
California
Aug 11, 2015 - 09:08pm PT
Yeah, bravo...he had to buy the pilot a new drone...$800 lol

nature said the same thing except quoted the price at $3000

where do you guys get this info from?
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Aug 11, 2015 - 09:12pm PT
actually I said $1500 and that was a different instance. Phantom with gimbal and gopro is $1500. been too busy to find the rest of that story. but yeah, in this case squishy is incorrect as the line snapped.

not sure if this is the same story but it appears the guy with the shirt was cited:
http://omnifeed.com/article/www.havasunews.com/news/tossed-t-shirt-causes-drone-to-crash-in-lake-havasu/article_d1e5df0e-0370-11e5-8ead-8b7d9e74fb14.html

I recall reading a story where the operators agreed to not press charges if he paid for damages. can't seem to locate it though
squishy

Mountain climber
Aug 12, 2015 - 09:31am PT
million dollar BAM!!

http://www.theverge.com/2015/8/12/9136279/drone-racing-league-one-million-backing
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Aug 12, 2015 - 06:20pm PT
We just need more eagles.

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doughnutnational

Gym climber
its nice here in the spring
Aug 12, 2015 - 06:28pm PT
http://abc30.com/news/officials-drone-almost-hits-skylife-helicopter.../925394/
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Aug 14, 2015 - 07:27am PT
A medical chopper transporting a snakebite victim missed a drone by 20' near Fresno
Wednesday according to the LA Times. (only in the print edition so far)
squishy

Mountain climber
Aug 14, 2015 - 10:24am PT

We need to tell our congresspeople to reign these f*#king things in. At the very minimum, IFF transponders mandated for every drone and every controller.

There are more than a million of these goddamned machines out there now....

Speaking for everyone or trying too "we need too!!.."

Using expletive to express emotional reaction "these f*#king things"

Sever, ignorant and police state regulation recommendation. "At the very minimum, IFF transponders mandated for every drone and every controller"



Common sense regulation is severely needed. But what is not needed is people like dingus here coming up with them..
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Aug 14, 2015 - 11:26am PT
Transponders aren't required for manned aircraft. It's going to be a hard sell getting them mandated for UAVs.

It seems like the FAA is heaping regulations on legitimate drone operators just because they can. Just for the hell of it.

A co-pilot for a drone? That's just totally asinine. Especially when you consider there are six-ton jets the FAA allows to be flown solo. Nature's probably kicking the tires on a few of these right now, while he gets his certification.

500' radius is a hell of an area to have to be clear of people. Especially when you're only flying 200' AGL maximum.

And how are you ( Nature and Squishy ) supposed to know with any certainty the altitude of your drone? The Kite Guys can't come up with a way to exactly measure the height of a kite - and we know exactly how many feet of line is out between us and our kites.

I hope you have some form of altitude/performance telemetry to record your flights, otherwise it could be your word against a lying cop:

"We just had an aircraft do a vertical climb pretty fast. Zero to about 2000 in less than 2 seconds."

http://animalnewyork.com/2014/listen-nypd-helicopter-pilots-lie-drone-air-traffic-controller/

Some bullets ( not all of them ) are capable of a supersonic ascent. An F-16 can only climb about 800 fps. ( Nature's probably shopping for one of those, too )

Maybe the cop wasn't lying, and he actually believes he saw a drone out-climb an F-16 at afterburner, but it doesn't matter. It'd suck to have to waste time and resources setting the cop who failed Junior High Science straight.



Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Aug 14, 2015 - 01:35pm PT
Maybe the cop wasn't lying

Were his lips moving?
squishy

Mountain climber
Aug 14, 2015 - 01:37pm PT
very interesting news today...I wonder how many main stream media outlets will let it reach you? They tend to foster the fear instead of tell the whole story...

http://diydrones.com/profiles/blogs/foia-request-reveals-faa-uas-enforcement-data
squishy

Mountain climber
Aug 14, 2015 - 02:03pm PT
correct dingus, because the informed person knows a "toy drone" cannot do much of what you fear, lol. while those drones built and flow by more experienced people can fly that high and do...but their pilots are very skilled and trained...Read the link I provided above and see the FAA data of just how bullshit all those reports really are..try it...you are right there next to the credibility of a UFO researcher...just saying...lol
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Aug 15, 2015 - 12:20pm PT
Just heard the medic on the Fresno snakebite flight interviewed. He said
the drone was 4-6 FEET and it was WITHIN THE ROTOR DIAMETER!
They were at 1000'. Are you kidding me?
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Aug 15, 2015 - 02:46pm PT
I guess people will have to die to get any action.
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Aug 15, 2015 - 03:10pm PT

YES!
Ban them!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Aug 17, 2015 - 07:41pm PT
It's high time that re-education camps were brought back, eh?
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Aug 17, 2015 - 07:44pm PT
It's high time that re-education camps were brought back, eh?

Only for drone scofflaws, and people throwing cigarette butts from their cars, Reilly.

I'm sure law enforcement and fire fighting crews will eventually have some sort of drone "intercept" tools. They are just starting to have to deal with this issue.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/b-c-fires-oliver-firefighters-in-southern-interior-grounded-by-drone-1.3192713
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Aug 17, 2015 - 09:21pm PT
The FAA is updating its current rules to cover drones and related aircraft, but the agency has already issued a preliminary set of guidelines. Drones shouldn’t operate above 400 feet, come within five miles of an airport without communicating with the airport and its control tower, or fly near people. According to the FAA, commercial airline pilots reported encountering 138 drones above 10,000 feet in June, and 137 in July. That’s up from 16 and 36 in June and July of 2014. The vast majority of hobby drones aren’t even capable of reaching that altitude, and many contain programmed limitations that prevent them from doing so.

The people causing problems, in other words, aren’t the guy who bought a $500 drone and wants to take some aerial photos of his house.

http://www.extremetech.com/uncategorized/212281-reports-of-drone-close-encounters-spiked-in-2015-with-no-simple-resolution-in-sight
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Aug 17, 2015 - 09:24pm PT
Above 10,000 feet? You're kidding, right?
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Aug 17, 2015 - 10:34pm PT
^ they probably misquoted this below - "above" and "up to" 10,000 feet are different!

http://knowbeforeyoufly.org/2015/08/faa-pilot-reports-of-close-calls-with-drones-soar-in-2015/

Pilots of a variety of different types of aircraft – including many large, commercial air carriers – reported spotting 16 unmanned aircraft in June of 2014, and 36 the following month. This year, 138 pilots reported seeing drones at altitudes of up to 10,000 feet during the month of June, and another 137 in July.
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