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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Oct 15, 2018 - 05:58pm PT
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We do, John.
I posted the same thing to the Welcome to Kevin Worrall thread and the Warbler Appreciation thread, because I felt those were the appropriate places to make it clear, and establish a record that he had his posts, and with them the entirety of his historical contribution to Supertopo struck by the "moderators".
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Oct 15, 2018 - 07:25pm PT
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doesn't it turns out most of the time its the banned person does it themselves
I don't know about "most of the time", but there have definitely been a few people who, while not banned, have either erased all their posts, or asked the ST gods to do that for them.
And I agree with those of you who are saying this should not be done. Or at least not done in climbing-related threads. No one really gives a rat's ass if you or I delete a bunch of stupid politard crap, but when you pull the plug on your contributions to climbing threads... Well, the message that sends to everyone else who contributed is: "F*#K YOU!!!"
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hooblie
climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
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Oct 15, 2018 - 07:37pm PT
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ephemeral passage ... route name?
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Oct 15, 2018 - 07:48pm PT
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Two cents real quick.
Kev's a big boy. We all appreciated his historical input, but he darn well knew his BIG MOUTH might get him (and his contributions to climbing history) banned.
He's a big boy, just not too mature, I'm afraid. He ought to have used better judgement bout some of the things he said.
Words and actions have consequences. I hope some here learn that or their histories can be as easily erased, just like Warbler's.
Heck, maybe he'll write a book with all the free time away from TacoLand.
If you're lurking, Kev, you are a very good writer and should think about a book. I'd buy at least three copies myself.
Cheers, bud!
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Oct 15, 2018 - 08:07pm PT
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It's most likely he asked for his posts to be deleted.
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Oct 15, 2018 - 08:18pm PT
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Aeriq! Thanks for speaking up & you too MFM!
I agree with Aeriq's post on the subject:
As much as I appreciate KW's contributions to the climbing community, he is like a pit-bull with his "men are superior to women" perspective.
It really left a bad and lasting impression for some of us, irregardless of his historical contributions.
I may be part of the politically-incorrect crowd here on occasion, but Kevin's incessant & seemingly compulsive bashing of women bothered the hell out of me. I was especially offended when he would not shut up on the thread that commended Crimpergirl on her recent accomplishments.
I appreciate his legendary climber status & I regret all his posts were deleted, but he is not mature enough to be a ST contributor.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Oct 15, 2018 - 08:20pm PT
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What did he do? Post a dick pic? Because that is definitely private property violation.
internet bully is already fresident of usa so why not confront digital dicks of other and ofher variant?
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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Oct 15, 2018 - 08:23pm PT
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he is not mature enough to be a ST contributor.
I could parse that, but instead I am only going to quote, because the richness of that quotation could not be lost on the dimmest person who has ever posted on this forum.
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WBraun
climber
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Oct 15, 2018 - 08:36pm PT
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Tami Knight, Crimpie and eKat are no longer here...wonder why?
That's because you guys are all a bunch of whiny pussies NOT men just whiny pussies .....
Muwahahaha .....
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Oct 15, 2018 - 08:41pm PT
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^^^^^^ Jajajajajajaja! Concur with Werner.
Never saw you down at the Meadow during the rescue yesterday, Werner. Were you there? Seems like a pretty good outcome all things considered.
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WBraun
climber
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Oct 15, 2018 - 08:46pm PT
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Pete
I'm NOT rescue anymore, haven't been for a few years now .... way too old .... I been working on LEO vehicles now, upfit and maintenance ..
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WBraun
climber
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Oct 15, 2018 - 08:57pm PT
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LOL ... you just proved my point .....
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Oct 15, 2018 - 09:00pm PT
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Too old???? You're never too old! [look at me]
Hey Werner, tell those LEO's to please enforce the speed limit down at the El Cap Bridge! Man, people come flying across there at like 50 mph. One of us is going to get hit soon....
Mucho peligroso, siiiiiiiii............
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couchmaster
climber
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Oct 17, 2018 - 08:51am PT
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2 quotes from this thread standout:
Wayyyyyy up high back at the start Scuffy said:
"Great story, Kevin, keep em coming."
Ending with Tarbusters statement: "Sadly, CMAC & RJ have seen fit to vaporize all of Kevin Worrall's writings on the Supertopo forum.
Kevin always, to my knowledge, comported himself very well in his communication here on the forum, especially so on the controversial threads which got him banned and his entire retinue of posts deleted.
That's the part of it that just seems wrong: he rarely, if ever used foul language or invective. If so, then very, very rarely, but I never saw it. Certainly he was persistent with some of his views, which was his downfall, as I understand it.
CMAC and RJ don't make sense, from the standpoint of valuing historicity and respect for rational discourse.
Game over, for a metric ton of valuable stories, insight, and commentary, from one of the most valued members of our climbing community, Kevin Worrall. "
And Fritz, a little heads up to your blindside: you do the same thing as KW with your viewpoints. The difference is that you are much more self righteous in your views and your climbing contributions pale in comparison to this thread alone. That's doesn't mean I think you should be banned any more than Kevin who seemed like a good guy even whom I often found myself disagreeing with.
Take care all!
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ionlyski
Trad climber
Polebridge, Montana
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Oct 17, 2018 - 09:52am PT
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Naw, it's Mark, the original Blinny
edit-whoops my bad! Didn't sound like you Kat
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Oct 17, 2018 - 10:03am PT
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The administration of this site should just erase All old Time climbers!
I think history will put KW in his rightful place one day. With Warren, Robbins. Birdwell, Prat etc.
A loss for the few who still spend time here.
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Oct 17, 2018 - 11:13am PT
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Kevin always, to my knowledge, comported himself very well in his communication here on the forum, especially so on the controversial threads which got him banned and his entire retinue of posts deleted.
Tar - from a woman's perspective, a barrage of misogynistic posits doesn't really fall under the category of comportment. Unless, I suppose, you belong to the Boy's Club - No Women Allowed sort of old school.
I agree that his trip reports had value, and am not sure why they would choose to wipe those away. Maybe they have a reason to NOT let the gender-bashing live on the site(advertisers have already told them once that they'd pull ad support, back on the Titty Thread), but they don't "know how to" code in a way that allows some posts to stay.
At any rate, in case some of you oldsters missed the memo, the women are sick and tired of having to pretending the shite doesn't bother us, that being deemed "lesser" is a valid stance, that we have to accept gross sexual innuendo as just the way things are, and have declared "No More." Continue at your own risk.
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ionlyski
Trad climber
Polebridge, Montana
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Oct 17, 2018 - 12:10pm PT
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Good Gawd Happy, give it a rest. You are part of the problem; one of division. I never read Kevin bashing women. He just had the BALLS to admit we are not equal in every way and let's stop pretending that we are. Women are far superior to men and any guy lucky enough to have a gal willing to stick around and help run the homestead is doing OK in my book.
Look we are all partners on this planet and somehow we ended up here together. I'm glad you have skills that I don't and hopefully maybe you will recognize a few of mine. Progression towards equal treatment has come a long ways and sure, has a long long way to go still but why turn it into an "us against them"? Pretty much guarantees you'll continue to stay alone.
Arne
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Russ Walling
Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
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Oct 17, 2018 - 12:15pm PT
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Kev is doing just fine... I heard he is dating that angry chick that was always yapping about middle age paunches, sausages, and lab coats. Match made in heaven
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Trump
climber
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Oct 17, 2018 - 12:26pm PT
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Women are far superior to men .. progression towards equal treatment ..
Hmmm, I’m gonna have to look up superior and equal again. Sometimes words can be tricky.
Or maybe it’s just the tricky slanted ways we use them. It’s crazy how those far superior women somehow misunderstood what Warbler really meant when he called them superior.
Maybe Warbler’s homage to women’s aesthetic superiority, and women’s superior skills at wanting to be admired for their aesthetic superiority, wasn’t the equal treatment they were looking for.
But running homesteads - yea, they’ve sure got superior skills there. Now it’s their turn to admire us. Just maybe let’s not hold our breath waiting for it.
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