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Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 19, 2014 - 07:39am PT
The Future of Freedom Foundation? Well, I guess if wanton hyperbole means freedom
then bring on the police state!
WBraun

climber
Nov 19, 2014 - 10:35am PT
Everyone knows who did it except the brainwashed loons who always fall for the "Official" reports ....

crankster

Trad climber
Nov 19, 2014 - 02:17pm PT
Yeah, it was the same dudes who rigged the Twin Towers, faked the moon landings and fly around at night in black helicopters with chemtrails shooting at Big Foot and Elvis.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Nov 19, 2014 - 06:36pm PT
Jews...? For sure... Kennedy was Irish- Catholic and a threat to Pro-Israel legislation....The Palestinians are running out of rocks to throw at the Jews...Money buys rocks...Support the PLO...
mynameismud

climber
backseat
Nov 19, 2014 - 07:53pm PT
Kennedy was in fact a decorated war veteran. He had been through the hell of war, unlike any President since Teddy Roosevelt, except George HW Bush.
I exclude Eisenhower since his experience in WWII was administrative. He never fired a weapon in battle.

I think you forgot Truman.

Edit: and Ford
richross

Trad climber
Nov 22, 2014 - 07:07am PT
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McHale's Navy

Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
Mar 24, 2019 - 06:18pm PT
This thread has the most recent conversation on the subject, although there appear to be at least 2 others at SuperTopo. Why isn't this news in the NEWS?

https://www.ae911truth.org/news/512-lawyers-name-names-of-persons-with-material-information-in-9-11-grand-jury-filing
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
Mar 24, 2019 - 06:44pm PT
If the buildings were exploded, Where are the demolition videos?

I was having coffee before going to Smith Rocks that morning when a news report came on with video of the plane hitting tower1.

Then I went to my Partner’s house and told him to turn on the TV and we watched the second plane come in.

At that poin we thought, uh-oh, not accidents.

So we stayed home and watched until the towers collapsed it was all on live tv.


NOWERE did we see pictures of explosive demolition consistent with preplaced explosives.

If you have such video, please post links.
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
Mar 24, 2019 - 07:33pm PT
Sounds like you haven't seen the Building 7 videos:

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=bldg+7+videos&view=detail&mid=8C7F0B4E4D332604B7058C7F0B4E4D332604B705&FORM=VIRE


I want to be sure to keep the Grand Jury part of the story upfront;

https://www.ae911truth.org/news/512-lawyers-name-names-of-persons-with-material-information-in-9-11-grand-jury-filing
WBraun

climber
Mar 24, 2019 - 07:53pm PT
Lorenzo believes everything he sees on TV and is told to him by his TV.

Another brainwashed st00pid American .....
capseeboy

Social climber
portland, oregon
Mar 24, 2019 - 07:56pm PT
^^^^ wow. I kinda remember hearing about that and seeing a picture of it after the collapse. I always thought it was kinda strange.

re: all the footage that we have seen about the towers dismissed the towers being in free fall as the debris falling with it was falling faster. But I'm no expert.
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
Mar 24, 2019 - 08:05pm PT
I have asked many many people personally if they have seen the building 7 videos and hardly anyone I have asked says yes. I have also concluded that if after seeing the videos, you have to go read about it to figure out if it was demolished or not, you have absolutely no mechanical/structural knowledge and can be easily swayed. You would have to have less than a child's knowledge of mechanics to not understand what happened.
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Mar 25, 2019 - 09:16am PT
If the buildings were exploded, Where are the demolition videos?

They weren't cut with typical HE shaped charges. There are several other known methods like various thermite compounds that produce no concussion.

Bldg 7, an enormous modern structure in its own right fell into it's own footprint many hours later due to "fires"... Sorry... nope.

There were also HUGE explosions prior to the collapse of the towers... So much stuff doesn't fit the narrative.

That debris in PA wasn't a commercial jetliner filled with people either. Compare and contrast it to any recent jetliner crash. Total bunk.

I could go on... but I've got to take my meds... Blue pills so I can function today.

WBraun

climber
Mar 25, 2019 - 09:22am PT
fear ... sorry

You are so far away from the truth.

Dig deeper (hint) into the basement ....
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Mar 25, 2019 - 09:40am PT
You are so far away from the truth.

Dig deeper (hint) into the basement ....

Believe me I've listened to all of it... All I do know is the story we're told is a complete and total lie.

The nuke/other-energy-weapon theory in the basement would explain the heat and molten steel present for weeks afterwards... thermite would not....

I do love how the only photographs of the "plane" striking the Pentagon were like 5 grainy images from a security booth.

Total crap.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Mar 25, 2019 - 04:28pm PT
I agree...the background sky was blue when that day was over cast . Total photoshop and cover up job just like the Mule ear probe .
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
Mar 26, 2019 - 01:02am PT
Were all the buildings of the WTC area part of the same
underground infrastructure?


Well, there was the bathtub




Basically they dug a ditch around the complex and filled it withconcrete and bentonite clay to keep the Hudson out. Had it failed, the place would have flooded. WTC 7 is outside it.

It survived. Parts of it still protects the new building.
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Mar 26, 2019 - 04:16am PT
The one thing all you conspiracy theorists seem to forget is what about the working stiffs. having spent my life as a working stiff I know that nothing big can happen without Working stiffs. working stiffs have family and friends. they get drunk and run their mouths.... Someone has to carry and set those explosives, someone has to load all the chemicals on all the airplanes and someone has to flip the switch to turn on the sprayers for all you chem trail loonies. that's a lot of working stiffs that seem to not exist. as for blowing the towers if it was navy seals those glory hounds can't even begin to keep a secrete these days. heck they would be writing books and selling movie rights...
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
Mar 26, 2019 - 06:56pm PT
The one thing all you conspiracy theorists seem to forget is what about the working stiffs. having spent my life as a working stiff I know that nothing big can happen without Working stiffs. working stiffs have family and friends. they get drunk and run their mouths.... Someone has to carry and set those explosives, someone has to load all the chemicals on all the airplanes and someone has to flip the switch to turn on the sprayers for all you chem trail loonies. that's a lot of working stiffs that seem to not exist. as for blowing the towers if it was navy seals those glory hounds can't even begin to keep a secrete these days. heck they would be writing books and selling movie rights...

Working stiffs go where they are told to go and do what they are told to do. It's easy to get left out of the action. And besides, there are many reports of suspicious activity around the downing of Building 7 that are on video that get conveniently ignored. If you haven't seen the building 7 videos Trademan, look them up. If you have to go read somewhere that there is nothing highly strange about that collapse, then you don't understand the strength of contemporary structures. THAT simply couldn't have happened without lots of help in terms of explosives. Period....end of story.

Check this out. Source Watch is pretty legitimate as far as I know. Why in the world was Marvin Bush involved in security at the World Trade Center? It seems like kind of a strange position for somebody of his stature. Surely they would have had no problem keeping you out Trademanclimbs. That security outfit even had contracts with the Department of Defense, it says below.

https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Marvin_Bush

Comparing 911 truthers with chemtrail loonies is what is known as an ad hominem attack. It's a weak way to debate.
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Mar 27, 2019 - 03:30am PT
it would take so much weight in explosives and so much time to set it up that you would need a bunch of working stiffs. yes we do what we are told but we bitch about it and it becomes common knowledge. when it comes to takeing down the towers why bother? what is to be gained at what risk? flying jumbo jets into them is going f*#k them up just fine and hitting the pentagon is a slam dunk if all you want is a war.
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