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BrassNuts
Trad climber
Save your a_s, reach for the brass...
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Sep 16, 2013 - 10:27pm PT
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Hey Edge, that looks like a very soggy Townsend's Warbler - very pretty birds! Yes, the sun was finally out a good portion of the day today :-) Here are a few more pics from around town Friday morning - hopefully we never see anything like this again, brutal.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Sep 16, 2013 - 10:40pm PT
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Thanks for those pics Dave.
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FrankZappa
Trad climber
Hankster's crew
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Sep 17, 2013 - 12:46am PT
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I went for a walk in the great outdoors today and took these photos:
A few tunnels south of Mickey Mouse.
See-through wall at bottom of Bastille.
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bhilden
Trad climber
Mountain View, CA/Boulder, CO
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Sep 17, 2013 - 01:47am PT
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Edge,
best of luck getting the water flowing into your place under control. It is a total bummer and you can feel so helpless to do anything that really matters. After a day of no rain the water seeping into my basement has finally stopped and things are beginning to dry out. Off to Home Depot when they open at 6am to buy a bunch of box fans!
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bearbnz
Trad climber
East Side, California
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Sep 17, 2013 - 01:54am PT
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Hey Frank, Did you walk across the suspended train tracks? Had to be somewhat tempting...
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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Sep 17, 2013 - 02:33am PT
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We have not had seepage in basements on the east side of old town Longmont but my neighbor felt his basement was very damp even so.
I loaned them my portable air conditioner- heater which has a dehumidifier button on it also. They report that they collected a couple of inches of water out of the air in their basement in about an hour and the concrete seemed drier.
I would think one portable air con unit like that might be worth more than lots of box fans? Not to mention big dedicated dehumidifiers like we used in Okinawa would do wonders.In this circumstance they'd be worth their $150 price to run for a couple of weeks until the basements are really dry.
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goatboy smellz
climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
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Sep 17, 2013 - 07:32am PT
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FGD135
Social climber
Boulder Canyon
Say Goatboy, where did you read/hear that CDot Statement about reopening the canyon? I've not been able to find it. I'd bet one month to open it is a very optimistic goal.
Nederland's twitter account.
http://mobile.twitter.com/townofned
I'm not there so I'm relying on friends and social media to stay up to date. My place is about 50 yards from Boulder Creek across from Chipeta Park so I was a bit anxious to hear how close the flood came up the hill. Luckly we are high enough so no damage in my neighborhood, nobody has basements so the water went straight down to the reservoir.
My friends in Salina up Four Mile just told me the bad news up there, the whole town is demolished, their house, two cars was washed away along with everything else they own.
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command error
Trad climber
Colorado
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Sep 17, 2013 - 03:55pm PT
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Eastern Colorado and beyond is getting the surge.
To late to raise your house above the flood like this.
To keep your house from being pushed off the foundation by the current
a few dozen of these plates retrofitted on should do the job.
At least the frame will still be on your property rather than the neighbors.
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Edge
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 17, 2013 - 09:41pm PT
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Some pics from my first trip into Boulder since the storm hit.
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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Sep 17, 2013 - 10:12pm PT
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tx edge, great to see the sunshine.
can't imagine what lies ahead. hope you folks get a window to deal with it all before winter hits.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Sep 18, 2013 - 12:11am PT
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SavageMarmot
Trad climber
Nederland, CO
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Sep 18, 2013 - 02:26am PT
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That'll teach you to park your expensive car in the floodplain!
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Sep 18, 2013 - 03:50am PT
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hey there say, wilbeer... oh my, say, that is scary stuff, i never knew
about these things... *am just a, or was, a simple mom, :O
thanks for sharing...
(i mean i KNEW there are gas-wells, but i knew on a much smaller 'being ignorant level' as i never had a need to learn this) :O
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Euroford
Trad climber
Louisville, CO
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Sep 18, 2013 - 10:55am PT
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lol... check out my 600hp backup generator...
(to bad its only good for 800watts)
I feel so fortunate that we've had manageable problems and have had the skill and LUCK to stay one step ahead of them.
we've not had any true "flood" waters here, but like many we discovered how inadequate our sump pump and basement protection system was. we kept the basement dry through some serious redneck ingenuity, but then we knew that keeping power to the pumps was the ONLY thing standing between us and a basement full of water.
here in our neighborhood, i'm willing to bet close to 25% of the residents got water in the basement, and the pumps are STILL kicking on every 2-3 minutes and discharging 30+ gallons at a time.
fortunately for our neighbors, amber managed to run out and snag what we guess was probably one of the last honda generators around. its just a we tad bit quieter than the 7.3L
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Sep 18, 2013 - 11:13am PT
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Not in a flood plain but high on a hillside.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Sep 18, 2013 - 01:38pm PT
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Pretty sobering images of all the personal devastation. My heart goes out to all who've lost their homes and possessions. But at least you are alive. "this too shall pass". There are still over 300 people missing. This is very worrying.
Seeing the wrecked gas/oil/fracking equipment immediately reminded me of Fukushima. How eager we are to get "cheap" energy that the engineers and owners disregard the likelihood of the 100 year event happening during the lifecycle of their project. "it won't happen on my watch"
When we factor in the costs of devastating natural events the entire cost/benefit calculation can go upside down.
If only TEPCO (Tokyo Electric Power Company) had factored the cost of the "100 year" tsunami they might not have build the plant. Or they would at least have raised the seawall and dikes another 10 - 20 feet. I'm certain they considered and then rejected it.
Ditto for fricken' fracking. How much more would it have cost to build all those fracking (and non-fracking) installations to survive this flood? And then what would be the true cost of the energy provided? What will it cost the investors to repair the damage? What unknown harm are the tracking chemicals causing hundreds of feet beneath the surface?
These are also the lifecycle cost/benefit calculations the promoters of the Keystone XL pipeline are loathe to publish.
Another Frankenstein hiding in the dark is the cost of reclaiming places like Glen Canyon and Lake Mead when the reservoirs eventually silt up. Ahh….but no worry, we won't be alive to deal with it.
And while I'm on my soapbox. The rebuilt strip of Seaside Park New Jersey that burned down last week? The fire was started by an electrical short circuit or other malfunction beneath one of the rebuilt shops.
Investigators said the fire began under a building that housed an ice cream stand and a candy store. It was the result of failed electrical equipment and wiring under the boardwalk and subfloor, compromised by Sandy floodwaters. http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/17/20544987-electrical-components-compromised-by-sandy-floodwaters-caused-nj-boardwalk-fire?lite
Remember all the fuss after Hurricane Sandy about getting the boardwalk rebuilt in time for the summer beach season? Gov Christie was all pumped up and promising to get this done. And they did.
So now it appears that in haste, they didn't replace all the electrical equipment that had been inundated by sea water. D'oh!!!! And this problem has been public information since at least March this year.
The cost to rebuild (again)? At Christie has promised at least $15million from the state coffers. Does Christie think the economy gained $15 million by rushing the rebuilding?
"It's not nice to fool Mother Nature"……nor is it profitable in the long run.
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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Sep 18, 2013 - 07:16pm PT
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Nice job freeing the van, philo.
It looks like the benz is going to be fine also.
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