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GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Jul 4, 2013 - 02:15pm PT
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Religion does not dictate morality. I mean c'mon...
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jul 4, 2013 - 02:16pm PT
It comes down to one's definition of what is immoral.

It's real simple: If it doesn't hurt anyone, it's not immoral.

Gay marriage doesn't hurt anyone.

Is abortion immoral? Can you redefine everything to suit your "morality".
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Jul 4, 2013 - 02:16pm PT
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Jul 4, 2013 - 02:19pm PT
Is abortion immoral? Can you redefine everything to suit your "morality".

Wait, did you compare homosexuality to aborting fetus'? I wonder how the LBGT's feel about that... just like the argument that dictates "now people will marry their dog," we should compare apples to apples. Not logical fallacies comparing consensual human behavior with beastiality.

As per Hank and Jebus... you are both arguing seperate points. Hank is saying that it is a non-issue, and I tend to agree with Jebus - that it isn't the singular issue but the greater issue of social intolerance of homosexual behavior that goes back 10,000 years. Often we see the Law, socially, dictates what the common person deems 'moral.' Watch how many moms and dads smoke weed when it's legal. In the same sense, condoning gay marriage is a step in saying "it's OK to be who you are." Unfortunately we live in a world where, if you are gay, you were VERY likely bullied, disenfranchised from your family, and roundly misunderstood at best.

Is the point of equalization marriage? ABSOLUTELY not. It should not stop there. But it is a start in the world recognizing a group that has been killed, chased out, hated and mistreated for thousands of years. If you don't get that, there is a disconnect in the causality of the collective interpretation of homosexuality.

Or something.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jul 4, 2013 - 02:26pm PT
Of course. Morality is a human invention. We can reinvent it and have, a million times over. We will continue to do so, too.

DMT


Uh, no. It's based on virtue. Right vs wrong.


Broad brush. I know you like it so when you get painted with it. So it makes sense you do it to others.

People... they're the worst. And democracy has failed you. And now the leisure class is going to tax your capital gains and live in McMansions out in Blackhawk. In gated gay foodstamp communities, how you like that???

DMT


Who's using the broad brush??? Ever hear of the tax-bearing middle-class? Me.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 4, 2013 - 02:28pm PT
Uh, no. It's based on virtue. Right vs wrong.

Totally.

Discrimination is wrong and equal rights for all people is right.

Finally, we agree. Was that so difficult?
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Jul 4, 2013 - 02:28pm PT

Gay marriage doesn't hurt anyone.

Not only them selves. It is a medical fact that anal sex hurts the colon. But I'm sur science will fix that.

But what about the innocent little children that we are handing over to them under the guise of being "married"? I know if I woke up between two men when I was adopted at 4 yro. I would have said; WHAT THE F*#K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'd need more counseling than I already do! Which will come from the tax payers..
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Jul 4, 2013 - 02:30pm PT
Not only them selves. It is a medical fact that anal sex hurts the colon.

You know, anal sex isn't unique to the Gay community.

Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 4, 2013 - 02:32pm PT
It is a medical fact that anal sex hurts the colon.

I'd be willing to bet that more women like getting in the butt than men.
It's pretty common.

Just sayin'.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jul 4, 2013 - 02:32pm PT
Is the point of equalization marriage? ABSOLUTELY not. It should not stop there. But it is a start in the world recognizing a group that has been killed, chased out, hated and mistreated for thousands of years. If you don't get that, there is a disconnect in the causality of the collective interpretation of homosexuality.

Funny how I get painted as the homophobe all the time.

I think it's time to get the State out of marriage, just after we reform the IRS. Leave marriage a function of the church. Let civil-unions be done by the city. They ALL get the same rights.

Is that so hard?
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jul 4, 2013 - 02:39pm PT

Discrimination is wrong and equal rights for all people is right.

Discrimination is necessary. Why can't idiots like you liberals see that? So is "profiling".

If you don't discriminate or profile people, you are weak or stupid. Or both!

You have to profile people, or discriminate, on who you'll interact with to stay from danger. It's common f*#king sense!!!!
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Jul 4, 2013 - 02:47pm PT
the church.

which one is that? I don't go to any of them that don't administer psychedelics.

I wasn't calling you a homophobe, and honestly I don't think you are one. I think pulling the race/homophobe card out is trite.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jul 4, 2013 - 02:57pm PT
which one is that? I don't go to any of them that don't administer psychedelics.

I wasn't calling you a homophobe, and honestly I don't think you are one. I think pulling the race/homophobe card out is trite.

No church specifically, but faith in general. It's up to you, is the point.

So you understand why you get profiled here, then. Enjoy!

DMT


Yeah. And I have no f*#king problem with it.
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Jul 4, 2013 - 03:10pm PT
but faith in general.

I don't have any faith, that word is silly :)
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jul 4, 2013 - 03:29pm PT
You'll find it, Greg. Don't look for it, it'll find you.
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Jul 4, 2013 - 03:38pm PT
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jul 4, 2013 - 03:41pm PT
You can mock me, Greg. It's fine....
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Jul 4, 2013 - 03:50pm PT
It's fun*


:)

I love you bud. That's why I tease ya.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jul 4, 2013 - 04:22pm PT
Greg, you know me. I am very serious.

Sometimes I jest, But sometimes I kid not.
Klimmer

Mountain climber
Jul 4, 2013 - 04:58pm PT
I say take it up with HaShem Adonai Elohim -- G-d. And Good luck on that. He's not changing his mind or his Torah (instruction). He said don't do it.

Those of you behind the gay agenda will bring judgement from G-d to our Nation. Every Nation/Civilization that went this way is no more. Destroyed. In ruin. Poof. Gone.

Sin has consequences. The sin of a Nation can take the Nation down to ruin.

Don't do it.


http://christianity.about.com/od/Bible-Verses/a/Bible-Verses-Homosexuality.htm

Bible Verses About Homosexuality

Genesis 19:1-11
That evening the two angels came to the entrance of the city of Sodom. Lot was sitting there, and when he saw them, he stood up to meet them. Then he welcomed them and bowed with his face to the ground. "My lords," he said, "come to my home to wash your feet, and be my guests for the night. You may then get up early in the morning and be on your way again." "Oh no," they replied. "We'll just spend the night out here in the city square." But Lot insisted, so at last they went home with him. Lot prepared a feast for them, complete with fresh bread made without yeast, and they ate. But before they retired for the night, all the men of Sodom, young and old, came from all over the city and surrounded the house. They shouted to Lot, "Where are the men who came to spend the night with you? Bring them out to us so we can have sex with them!"
So Lot stepped outside to talk to them, shutting the door behind him. "Please, my brothers," he begged, "don't do such a wicked thing. Look, I have two virgin daughters. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do with them as you wish. But please, leave these men alone, for they are my guests and are under my protection."

"Stand back!" they shouted. "This fellow came to town as an outsider, and now he's acting like our judge! We'll treat you far worse than those other men!" And they lunged toward Lot to break down the door. But the two angels reached out, pulled Lot into the house, and bolted the door. Then they blinded all the men, young and old, who were at the door of the house, so they gave up trying to get inside. (NLT)

Leviticus 18:22
"Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin." (NLT)

Leviticus 20:13
"If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman, both men have committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense." (NLT)

Judges 19:16-24
That evening an old man came home from his work in the fields. He was from the hill country of Ephraim, but he was living in Gibeah, where the people were from the tribe of Benjamin. When he saw the travelers sitting in the town square, he asked them where they were from and where they were going.

"We have been in Bethlehem in Judah," the man replied. "We are on our way to a remote area in the hill country of Ephraim, which is my home. I traveled to Bethlehem, and now I'm returning home. But no one has taken us in for the night, even though we have everything we need. We have straw and feed for our donkeys and plenty of bread and wine for ourselves."

"You are welcome to stay with me," the old man said. "I will give you anything you might need. But whatever you do, don't spend the night in the square." So he took them home with him and fed the donkeys. After they washed their feet, they ate and drank together. While they were enjoying themselves, a crowd of troublemakers from the town surrounded the house. They began beating at the door and shouting to the old man, "Bring out the man who is staying with you so we can have sex with him." The old man stepped outside to talk to them. "No, my brothers, don't do such an evil thing. For this man is a guest in my house, and such a thing would be shameful. Here, take my virgin daughter and this man's concubine. I will bring them out to you, and you can abuse them and do whatever you like. But don't do such a shameful thing to this man." (NLT)

1 Kings 14:24
And there were also male cult prostitutes in the land. They did according to all the abominations of the nations that the LORD drove out before the people of Israel. (ESV)

1 Kings 15:12
He put away the male cult prostitutes out of the land and removed all the idols that his fathers had made. (ESV)

2 Kings 23:7
He also tore down the living quarters of the male and female shrine prostitutes that were inside the Temple of the LORD, where the women wove coverings for the Asherah pole. (NLT)

Romans 1:18-32
But God shows his anger from heaven against all sinful, wicked people who suppress the truth by their wickedness.... Yes, they knew God, but they wouldn't worship him as God or even give him thanks. And they began to think up foolish ideas of what God was like. As a result, their minds became dark and confused. Claiming to be wise, they instead became utter fools. And instead of worshiping the glorious, ever-living God, they worshiped idols made to look like mere people and birds and animals and reptiles.

So God abandoned them to do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other's bodies. They traded the truth about God for a lie. So they worshiped and served the things God created instead of the Creator himself, who is worthy of eternal praise! Amen.

That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved.

Since they thought it foolish to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their foolish thinking and let them do things that should never be done. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, quarreling, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They invent new ways of sinning, and they disobey their parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, are heartless, and have no mercy. They know God's justice requires that those who do these things deserve to die, yet they do them anyway. Worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too. (NLT)

1 Corinthians 6:9-11
Don't you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don't fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality, or are thieves, or greedy people, or drunkards, or are abusive, or cheat people-none of these will inherit the Kingdom of God. Some of you were once like that. But you were cleansed; you were made holy; you were made right with God by calling on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. (NLT)

1 Timothy 1:8-10
Now we know that the law is good, if one uses it lawfully, understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, the sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine ... (ESV)

Jude 7
And don't forget Sodom and Gomorrah and their neighboring towns, which were filled with immorality and every kind of sexual perversion. Those cities were destroyed by fire and serve as a warning of the eternal fire of God's judgment. (NIV)
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