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monolith
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albany,ca
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Dec 24, 2012 - 10:37pm PT
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Yes I can, just not to you satisfaction, ever. No one can.
I've read the bans that list features and by model.
You can get much better info by going directly to the ban documents, but you aren't interested.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 24, 2012 - 10:40pm PT
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Well thats an understatemenr!
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 24, 2012 - 10:50pm PT
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I don't deny that they are efficient tools for killing.
But if criminals can get them easily (and they always will) then why not at least allow a level playing field?
If I have violent perps breaking in and I find it necessary to dispatch them with an AR then it is not an assault rifle , it is a defense rifle.
Assault weapon is a deliberately pejorative term.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Dec 24, 2012 - 10:51pm PT
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Do you have violent perps breaking in?
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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Dec 24, 2012 - 11:04pm PT
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I needed some ammo for plinking in the desert so I went to nearby gun shop.
It was packed and all their ammo was gone. Went to walmart and thier stock was gone also.
Went to the big gunshop 30 miles away and there was a 2-3 hour wait. the place was packed. Hit up another big one, same wait time.
Finally ended up buying online.
The dealers I spoke with said it was a total panic buy and they "emptied the shelves" numerous times since the 14th.
All the places except walmart push NRA membership and a lot of the folks buying are first time firearm owners. Hopefully, they'll do their homework before joining this organization.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Dec 24, 2012 - 11:08pm PT
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I remember when they created a fear of an impending toilet paper shortage in the 70s. Then a feared coffee shortage. Then a gas shortage. Same crazy panic buying. You all taught those Madison Avenue marketing mavens a powerful lesson to be sure. And now it is a Happy Holidays for the gun and ammo corporations. By the way I hear there will be a dire shortage of gravel. Stock up stupid humans.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Dec 24, 2012 - 11:23pm PT
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They were selling "bulletproof" little kid backpacks at a Walgreens tonight. They had 500 this morning and were down to about 50 from the looks of it.... WTF??!
Every gun shop in the area has Woodstock level crowds.
Fear has always been a great business unfortunately.
Have a good X-mas, Kwanza, Festivus, etc... everyone!
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 24, 2012 - 11:37pm PT
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Do you have violent perps breaking in?
Never happen, huh?
From the BD thread;
A year ago a man Hugh on pcp broke into our house and tried to kill me and my girlfriend. When you have to fight for your life and almost end up losing it because you did not have a way to defend yourself you may change your way of thinking. Before that I never had a desire for a gun.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Dec 24, 2012 - 11:56pm PT
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Philo writes:
"Do you have violent perps breaking in?"
How the hell do I know what I'll be having? That's the thing about emergencies; You can't predict them. They tend to crop up unexpectedly. Because if you could see violence coming, you would just avoid the scene completely.
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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Dec 25, 2012 - 12:00am PT
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NRA members = Orcs!
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Dec 25, 2012 - 02:41am PT
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They were selling "bulletproof" little kid backpacks at a Walgreens tonight. They had 500 this morning and were down to about 50 from the looks of it.... WTF??!
Pretty wild. Humans are so funny about fear. You look at what people fear and what really kills people and people are all gripped about the things that aren't the real risks. Peope fear flying but not driving!
Unintentional injury is the number one killer of children ages 1 to 14 in the U.S.
In 2008, 4,643 children ages 14 and under died from unintentional injury.
In 2009, 6,178,000 children ages 14 and under sustained unintentional nonfatal injuries treated in emergency departments.
Almost one-third of deaths among children ages 1 to 14 are due to unintentional injury.
The leading causes of injury-related death among children ages 14 and under are motor vehicle crashes, suffocation, drowning and fires and/or burns.
The leading cause of nonfatal injury for children ages 14 and under is unintentional falls.
Safer and cheaper to make kids wear waterwings anytime they are near water
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Dec 25, 2012 - 03:09am PT
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Nobody reads the last post on a page
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Dec 25, 2012 - 03:14am PT
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Americans are weird. There's a shoe bomber and now we have to take off our shoes. There was a rumor (they didn't really have anything) about a liquid bomber, and now I have to take my shoes off to get on a plane. Let's hope somebody doesn't rig a penile implant with explosives.
So we make our rules after a crisis.
but Somebody could take an AR 15 with some big clips into an airport lobby and open fire on huge long lines of people waiting for security check to get on that plane and probably dozens would be dead before they shot him.
and if he did that at the line to get into Disneyland, even more would die
Our security thinking is always in the missionary position. Good thing real terrorism and real nutcase are far more rare than we fear
Peace
Karl
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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Dec 25, 2012 - 12:15pm PT
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I hope everyone reading this has a BOMBER Christmas!
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 25, 2012 - 02:04pm PT
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And there might be a few people from Connecticut (I grew up in Westport) who feel differently.
Isn't the NSSF office in Newtown?
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 25, 2012 - 03:51pm PT
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Isn't that the Xmas card that a sheriff sent out to a bunch of parolees warning them not to get into trouble in the coming year?
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Dec 25, 2012 - 07:04pm PT
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Assault weapon is a deliberately pejorative term.
Really? So you are saying that the manufacturers, who created these weapons for military use with specific performance characteristics in mind, were dissing their own products?
That soldiers, referring to such weapons, are actually making a derogatory statement about their rifles?
Really?
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Dec 25, 2012 - 07:05pm PT
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Hilarious!
These guys want COMPLETE freedom (but I guess not of newspapers).
They want their right to PRIVACY (which they say the Constitution does not guarantee to citizens.)
Hmmmmm.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 25, 2012 - 07:45pm PT
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A gun dealer on the CBS national news just nominated Diane Feinstein and Obama as Salespersons Of The Year!!!
No shlt!
Check out this Gallil
There is a day and a half left and the bid is well over $11,000.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=322378171
Good news for me over the short term at least.
Riley spoke of the tulip boom and bust in 1636-37.
Timing is everything. Some people made fortunes.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 25, 2012 - 07:56pm PT
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Who says I'm a buyer?
I'm thinking of doing a little profit taking.
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